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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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The wifes RSX and my DD Integra both need tires before winter. We don't want snow tires on either car, looking for a high performance all season.

What tires would you reccomend for all round performance including slick/snowy conditions? I've had the Continental Extreme Contacts that well, but I'd like your experiences.

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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Funny my first response was going to be Continental DWSs. Great reviews, excellent wear rating and dry grip and pretty inexpensive compared to other all seasons. These will most likely be my next set of tires. Possibly moving back east sooner than later.
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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+2 on the conti's i've had the extreme contacts on my car for years and they never let me down
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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I had Potenzas on my TL before I moved on over to Continental DWS. I just picked up a second car, an S2000, and it came with Potenzas. I'm switching to Contis soon on the S too. There seems to be a pattern here lol
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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Continental DWS are amazing in snow conditions (check out tirerack's testing on them) and they are pretty amazing in wet conditions. In dry conditions they are really good but don't compare to a real summer tire. They grip VERY well however the only real issue I've had with them is the softer sidewalls (which provide an amazing ride) give a little less feedback when your driving.
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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Was going to recommend the Conti ExtremeContact DWS too.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 01:45 AM
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Was going to recommend the Conti ExtremeContact DWS too.
ive used this before on my tsx and their awesome in the snow
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 02:18 AM
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lol when i was searching for my dad I found this tire to be one of the best too

so +100 on the conti's

I may need new tires soon, but I dont need all season. Wonder if the conti's DW get as much praise worthiness.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 02:56 AM
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Conti DWS.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 04:29 AM
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i ride on Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S-C all season, and they are pretty nice. Very grippy when it is wet outside. No experience with them in the snow, however.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 05:27 AM
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I am going to keep this going by say Contiextreme contact DWS LOL
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 06:31 AM
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I love the Conti DWS.

I'll buy them again if I still have the car when the time comes.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 07:00 AM
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My 05 TL has the Conti ExtremeContacts and they are great high performance all-season tires. Will get them again for the TL.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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I also have conti dws, they're amazing in the rain. Only bad part about them is they're so popular so they're usually on back order.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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The DWS is going to put Michelin, Yokohama, Kumho, Toyo out of business. Damm they sell like hotcakes!
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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Welp, this seems cut and dry. lol
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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I have them on my car right now Continental DWS, great tire in snow or rain. A little soft on the sidewall though, but then again I have 16" rims that aren't low profile so that could very well be different for you guys with 17-19" wheels.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 02type-s
Welp, this seems cut and dry. lol
Good tire lol.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 12:17 AM
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At this point it's probably safe to say if you don't buy these tires you're a fool.

There are a few of us on the board that have teggy's. Have you done any mods to yours?
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 12:40 AM
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At this point it's probably safe to say if you don't buy these tires you're a fool.

There are a few of us on the board that have teggy's. Have you done any mods to yours?
Haha truth. Little bit here and there, Injen CAI, 6k hids, leds, Blox shift knob, R1 drilled and slotted rotors, and Axxis ceramic pads. Skunk2 springs, 16 inch Heliums in mag blue, and Deevo lugs are coming out of the basement and onto the car in the spring. Have a few more plans for it, but nothing crazy since its just the DD.

More of the money goes to the house, the TL-S, or the wife's RSX.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 01:56 AM
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Thanks, OP and everyone, I was just going to go shopping for new tires soon too. It doesn't snow in Hawaii, but I do like to have a good all weather tires since I've driven in some pretty heavy rain. Sounds like I have a good solution for me too. Now just need to track down where to get some here.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 08:12 AM
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Hey Tommy, long time.

My TL's stockies have the Conti's and the summer wheels have Potenza RE960's.
Both very good tires IMO.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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high performance all season.
I would rather go for for the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus.

The DWS is an inexpensive tire. Some people on BMW forums find them too soft and that hurts the precision of driving.

This is reflected in Tirerack surveys where the DWS gets 8.2 and Pilot Sport A/S Plus gets 8.9 in both cornering stability and steering response.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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Sounds like you have your answer. But do not get Toyo Versados if you're going to be driving in snow. They ride great on dry pavement and are super quiet, but they sucked in the snow. That's about all I can contribute, I run Dunlop Wintersport 3Ds in the winter now.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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Definitely Continental DWS!! I agree with others that the sidewall is a little on the soft side but they make up for it with how good they are in the snow and rain. I have them on my slammed CL and I had no problems what so ever in the good Ol' Wisconsin winters.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Saintor
The DWS is an inexpensive tire. Some people on BMW forums find them too soft and that hurts the precision of driving.
Solution: an extra 3-4 psi will fix softness.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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I am the only person here that didn't love their DWS. I found them very loud and the noise I got was a harmonic noise. It was annoying. I also had a lot of issues with keeping them balanced. More than is normal for the TL.

As for performance they were great in dry and wet. I replaced them before winter. If I didn't spend 3 hours a day in my car I would have kept them.

I ended up getting Michelin Primacy MXM4. They are a bit more but they are a lot quieter, easier to keep balanced and above average performance in dry and wet. They have been through 2 rotations so far and no issues what so ever. Tirerack have them rated high for snow performance as well.

One bit of advice is that Continental has a 60 day Ride Satisfaction Guarantee on their DWS tires. Try them out. But keep in mind if you do not like them you will be forced to stay with a Continental / General tire.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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Seems most like the continental DWS tires-wondering how many miles you all are getting on those tires.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
Seems most like the continental DWS tires-wondering how many miles you all are getting on those tires.
The claim is that the would get 50K miles out of them. What I can say is that I had them on my TL for about 7K miles and when I replaced them I had 8/32 left. They are 11/32 with no miles. I was a little concerned that 3/32 was already gone.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
The claim is that the would get 50K miles out of them. What I can say is that I had them on my TL for about 7K miles and when I replaced them I had 8/32 left. They are 11/32 with no miles. I was a little concerned that 3/32 was already gone.
The original Michelin tires had 74,000 miles when I replaced them. They all measured 4/32. The Yoko's I now have now have almost 53,000 miles and are at 6/32. Now doing my research for the next tires.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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I put the DWS on my Lotus. 'nuff said.

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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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Very first mod I made to my TL, even before I picked it up. Really like them so far.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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I think if you live in a area that gets zero snow the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S is the best tire I have ever had. They are a perfect blend of comfort and performance and the steering feel is great. Just dont trust them in snow. I got stuck in the slightest incline it them, the incline was so slight it was embarassing.

I've had the Pilot Sport A/S and I hated that tire. Excess harshness and made my car steer heavier. Only lasted 30k with rotations.

I currrently have the primacy Mxv4 and they are damm smooth, steering feel is lost a bit, I would recommend if you a easy ride.

So I gone thru some expensive Michelin Tires. But from now on, will probably try the Korean brands. Michelin charges way too much and from I have read the Korean brand like Hankook, Kumho are not too behind for a lot less. I have the Hankook Ice Bears winter tires for my Mazda3 on right now and they are great tires so far.

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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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My job has me on the road all day, every day. I have tried various tire manufacturer's products over the years.

Even though I have owned a small fleet of Honda/Acura vehicles, a tire from Michelin always ended up being the top performer on each one ... SUVs, sedans and even a convertible.

I am absolutely sold and won't be doing any further experimenting. Michelin tires have never been cheap, but they have never disappointed either.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
Seems most like the continental DWS tires-wondering how many miles you all are getting on those tires.
My brother had about 60k on them with his Accord. They probably wouldve lasted a bit longer had he gotten an alignment and rotated them more then once
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Originally Posted by Osamu
Thanks, OP and everyone, I was just going to go shopping for new tires soon too. It doesn't snow in Hawaii, but I do like to have a good all weather tires since I've driven in some pretty heavy rain. Sounds like I have a good solution for me too. Now just need to track down where to get some here.
You DONT need a M+S tire in Hawaii
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Solution: an extra 3-4 psi will fix softness.
And will go thru snow better! (i have had both)
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Originally Posted by Osamu
Thanks, OP and everyone, I was just going to go shopping for new tires soon too. It doesn't snow in Hawaii, but I do like to have a good all weather tires since I've driven in some pretty heavy rain. Sounds like I have a good solution for me too. Now just need to track down where to get some here.
There are some summer tires that are better in rain then all seasons. If it doesnt get down below 50*, a summer tire might be the way to go.
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
Seems most like the continental DWS tires-wondering how many miles you all are getting on those tires.
My dad currently has about 40k on his genesis and they are about half worn.
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
I am the only person here that didn't love their DWS. I found them very loud and the noise I got was a harmonic noise. It was annoying. I also had a lot of issues with keeping them balanced. More than is normal for the TL.

As for performance they were great in dry and wet. I replaced them before winter. If I didn't spend 3 hours a day in my car I would have kept them.

I ended up getting Michelin Primacy MXM4. They are a bit more but they are a lot quieter, easier to keep balanced and above average performance in dry and wet. They have been through 2 rotations so far and no issues what so ever. Tirerack have them rated high for snow performance as well.

One bit of advice is that Continental has a 60 day Ride Satisfaction Guarantee on their DWS tires. Try them out. But keep in mind if you do not like them you will be forced to stay with a Continental / General tire.
Odd. Mine were very quiet, My dads on his genesis are quieter than his stock tires.
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