Thinking about getting a 98 civic shell

Old 03-27-2010 | 11:31 AM
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Thinking about getting a 98 civic shell

I have a buddy with a 98 civic. it has a blown motor. It is a manual. Im not too familiar with civics and all the different types of motors that fit. I'm hoping someone can help me find the right motor. The plan is to turbo the car afterwards.

Im looking to spend less than $800 on a new motor with all the necessary stuff. Which motors can I buy for that price that will be a direct fit?

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Old 03-27-2010 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Slow Type S
I have a buddy with a 98 civic. it has a blown motor. It is a manual. Im not too familiar with civics and all the different types of motors that fit. I'm hoping someone can help me find the right motor. The plan is to turbo the car afterwards.

Im looking to spend less than $800 on a new motor with all the necessary stuff. Which motors can I buy for that price that will be a direct fit?

Thanks
I'm not saying you won't find a motor for that price, but I doubt you're going to find a motor in good condition for $800. Most B18's run over $1K. I believe the 98 can take a B18C1 from an Integra GS-R and possibly the B18C5 from the Type-R.
Old 03-27-2010 | 12:50 PM
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^ The problem is if he goes B series he's going to have to source a transmission as well. It would be difficult to get a B series motor and tranny for under $800 in good condition. You can go D series, maybe a SOHC Vtec, and turbo that. But honestly, if you are swapping motors might as well up your budget and get into a B series motor.
Old 03-27-2010 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FiftyFive
^ The problem is if he goes B series he's going to have to source a transmission as well. It would be difficult to get a B series motor and tranny for under $800 in good condition. You can go D series, maybe a SOHC Vtec, and turbo that. But honestly, if you are swapping motors might as well up your budget and get into a B series motor.


And don't forget to add in the need for upgrading the ECU.
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If you're definitely going turbo, a B18 or B20 non VTEC is more than capable. You can usually find them on craigslist or at local junk yards for about $500. My buddy put down 480whp with a LS motor. It had forged internals and all the supporting mods. A mostly stock motor could probably do something like 200 - 220 whp on a stock bottom end @ 7 or 8 psi.

Any B series is a direct swap with the right mounts. Whether it's OEM or something aftermarket like Hasport. If you buy a complete B18 swap, you'll want one with a hydraulic transmission otherwise you'll need to do a cable to hydraulic conversion.

An H23 is another option, but it requires a little more work since you have to notch the crossmember. You can find them for less than $1k and they have steel cylinder walls rather than FRM like in the H22.

The D series is a strong SOHC motor. You can probably find a D16Y8 (OBD2) or Z6 (OBD1) with the VTEC head for a few hundred bucks. There's a lot of support for it and 180 - 200whp can be achieved with a safe 7 psi and stock internals.

Which ever one you choose, you'll want to convert it to OBD1. The OBD2 systems has almost no support for tuning a turbo motor and the ones that do exist are very expensive and basically... suck.

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Old 03-27-2010 | 02:58 PM
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i was thinking of just getting a d16y6 which are very easy to find and put it in for now. while the car is running i can start building a b series. now if I turbo the d series and swap it out for a b series, the turbo kit should fit the b series as well right?

what do you guys recommend for a good civic forum?
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Originally Posted by Slow Type S
i was thinking of just getting a d16y6 which are very easy to find and put it in for now. while the car is running i can start building a b series. now if I turbo the d series and swap it out for a b series, the turbo kit should fit the b series as well right?

what do you guys recommend for a good civic forum?
The turbo kit should fit for the most part, but you will need to get it retuned, and you will need a different exhaust manifold.
Old 03-27-2010 | 05:09 PM
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I once drove a 98 Civic hatchback with an H22 in it. I was when I got on the road.
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Originally Posted by Slow Type S
now if I turbo the d series and swap it out for a b series, the turbo kit should fit the b series as well right?
Most of it can probably be reused. The turbo manifold won't, though. The exhaust ports are different between the D and B series. Also, the deck height of the B series is taller, so the down pipe may not fit exactly correct and may have to be lengthened. I don't know a whole lot about turbo Honda's, but you can search the archives of H-T to get just about any answer you're looking for. There's a lot of BS to skim through, but there's a lot of good info too.
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