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Old 07-01-2009, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
What's up with the tail lights on the Veyron around 4:08 and again at 4:27? Is that a sequence it goes into in Launch Mode or something?
I believe the lights flicker in a rotating motion when the car is in Launch Mode as well as in reverse...
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Originally Posted by te3point5
Did anyone notice in the video segment of "Things to come this season" it looks like that had a Mclaren F1 and Veyron drag race? and it looked like the McLaren was destroying the Veyron?
Download show 2 and then find out. I almost laughed to death from show 2.
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I splooged. That race was simply awesome.

Originally Posted by JD23
It looked like the F1 was faster initially, but the Veyron eventually overtook it at high speeds.
Thank you

Originally Posted by invisiblewar
yea i was wondering the same thing. it seems that once it hit that speed where it lowered and the spoiler rose up it just took off... isnt there a way to do that from the get go? would that of made the difference
I think there is a way to do that, but it wouldn't have helped. The built in launch control parameters should be near perfect.
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Originally Posted by AMGala
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The published 1/4 mile times I've seen for the Veyron have been faster than those of the F1, so this result was surprising to me. It might have been because the Stig was driving the F1. I guess you were prescient enough to anticipate this outcome.
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The boys are at it again, both episodes so far were great. Hands down best show ever.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
What's up with the tail lights on the Veyron around 4:08 and again at 4:27? Is that a sequence it goes into in Launch Mode or something?
My guess is that the LED tails are not constantly on but rather flicker on and off very rapidly (like most LEDs do), and the frame rate of the camera overlaps the frequency of the LEDs, so instead of them appearing to be constantly on we see them turning on and off. It's the same deal as when you videotape a TV and see it flickering or see the lines moving up and down it because of its refresh rate. The cameras are just catching the lights at the times when they are off.
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Originally Posted by TommySalami
My guess is that the LED tails are not constantly on but rather flicker on and off very rapidly (like most LEDs do), and the frame rate of the camera overlaps the frequency of the LEDs, so instead of them appearing to be constantly on we see them turning on and off. It's the same deal as when you videotape a TV and see it flickering or see the lines moving up and down it because of its refresh rate. The cameras are just catching the lights at the times when they are off.
I like JB's explanation better
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That was definitely cool.
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I still love the F1 more..its a timeless supercar imo.
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did you guys notice stig was making a copy of his helmet while the guys were making calls? haha
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Why would you talk trash about the Veyron... did you see the gadgets in the car? He also stated how much was in the veyron, but at the same time beats the F1. If you stripped the Veyron of it's luxury, it would literally fly =\.
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the girl to the right was kinda cute

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For those of you who would like to see the McLaren F1 on a track, here's a Best Motoring video featuring the car at Tsukuba doing time attack with I believe Tsuchiya San behind the wheel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE2xDwEYkMU

For comparison that lap time is about the same as the NSX-R.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
For those of you who would like to see the McLaren F1 on a track, here's a Best Motoring video featuring the car at Tsukuba doing time attack with I believe Tsuchiya San behind the wheel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE2xDwEYkMU

For comparison that lap time is about the same as the NSX-R.
There's a Best Motoring vid of the Mclaren going around the 'Ring, and it finishes it in an estimated 7:45. The NSX-R laps the 'ring in 7:56. The Veyron lapped it in 7:40.
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Originally Posted by JD23
The published 1/4 mile times I've seen for the Veyron have been faster than those of the F1, so this result was surprising to me. It might have been because the Stig was driving the F1. I guess you were prescient enough to anticipate this outcome.
All I was saying was that your comment was very John Maddenesque (like when he'll say during a football game, "The QB's gonna throw the ball and the receiver has to catch it.") I was just kidding around
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I hope the owner of the F1 charges at least $10K/mile

My fav car of all time. I still have my diecast model from the early/mid 90's.
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Originally Posted by jwjang86
Veyron is more of a gt car, not for the track. It's also very stable at high speeds. When you look at James May driving the Veryon at 250mph, the car isn't even shaking though it's covering a football field every second. When I look at youtube videos of TT Vipers or Supras doing a quarter mile in like 7.99s, it's VERY impressive but the whole car is shaking like it's about to explode or something. Of course the Veyron is a million dollars but it's still an engineering marble IMO.



I wonder how well it will do against the FXX, granted it's not a road car but still, that would be epic.
The shape is a bit round
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Originally Posted by TommySalami
My guess is that the LED tails are not constantly on but rather flicker on and off very rapidly (like most LEDs do), and the frame rate of the camera overlaps the frequency of the LEDs, so instead of them appearing to be constantly on we see them turning on and off. It's the same deal as when you videotape a TV and see it flickering or see the lines moving up and down it because of its refresh rate. The cameras are just catching the lights at the times when they are off.

Most LED's in tail lights are being driven with a constant current, there is no flicker at all. I know Mercedes and BMW now vary the brightness from normal to super bright in a panic stop, but I don't see any reason why you would flicker your LED's...

I believe that the tail light LED's were just displaying a pattern to indicate launch mode...

That or the Bugatti's got some VW electrical gremlins... haha
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
The top gear did the first episode about the Veyron, Jeremy said that if you gave the F1 a head start to 100, the Veyron would beat it to 200.
I remember hearing this.
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OK, did some reading online... looks like the lights flash like that when the Veyron is in launch mode.



Also looks like there is now a kit for the G37 to replicate this... except on the G37 they only flash when in reverse (since a G37 does not have launch control)

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I've seen vids of Veyron lights doing nothing and vids of them all crazy like the one below. I think the camera taking the vid pics up the LED different as I don't see Bugatti adding this.

Blinking crazy.

<embed src="http://videos.streetfire.net/vidiac.swf?video=1310668b-6503-4684-9740-983c01302d20" width="428" height="352" allowFullScreen="true" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"></embed><br/><a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Bugatti-Veyron-launch-in_71046.htm">Bugatti+Veyron+launch+!!!+(in+350Z+c ar)+s.f</a>

No blinking

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When I was at the New York Auto Show last year, there was an R8 there, and when you looked at the taillights through the LCD screen on my digicam, they flashed. But when you looked at the taillights with your naked eye, they didn't look like they were flashing.
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Originally Posted by Bdog
I've seen vids of Veyron lights doing nothing and vids of them all crazy like the one below. I think the camera taking the vid pics up the LED different as I don't see Bugatti adding this.

Blinking crazy.

<embed src="http://videos.streetfire.net/vidiac.swf?video=1310668b-6503-4684-9740-983c01302d20" width="428" height="352" allowFullScreen="true" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"></embed><br/><a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Bugatti-Veyron-launch-in_71046.htm">Bugatti+Veyron+launch+!!!+(in+350Z+c ar)+s.f</a>

No blinking

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First vid is in launch control, and lights are flashing. Second vid is the garage is just in park. He's not in launch control. From what I read the brake lights only flash in launch control mode.

So the videos you posted pretty much confirm what I've read and posted
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
First vid is in launch control, and lights are flashing. Second vid is the garage is just in park. He's not in launch control. From what I read the brake lights only flash in launch control mode.

So the videos you posted pretty much confirm what I've read and posted
They look like crap in the first vid, a millioin dollar car can't have all the lights blinking all around out of sequence like that, maybe they do blink and the camera also distorts the vid.
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Originally Posted by savage
Most LED's in tail lights are being driven with a constant current, there is no flicker at all. I know Mercedes and BMW now vary the brightness from normal to super bright in a panic stop, but I don't see any reason why you would flicker your LED's...

I believe that the tail light LED's were just displaying a pattern to indicate launch mode...

That or the Bugatti's got some VW electrical gremlins... haha
Hm, I thought they blinked to control the brightness.
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As already said, the McLaren F1 is my favorite car as well. You have to remember, it was made in 1993!! That's 15 F'ing years ago! It took this long to make a Supercar that can beat it..well, the Koeniggsegg was in what, 1998? Idk but either way both of these cars are amazing and FINALLY they raced. I was waiting for this video..

Now I wanna see the CCX vs F1..
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I still love the F1 more..its a timeless supercar imo.
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Originally Posted by TommySalami
There's a Best Motoring vid of the Mclaren going around the 'Ring, and it finishes it in an estimated 7:45. The NSX-R laps the 'ring in 7:56. The Veyron lapped it in 7:40.
That's fast for an old car!
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Originally Posted by tnl_tsx
did you guys notice stig was making a copy of his helmet while the guys were making calls? haha


i lol'd

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I call with the girl on the left and raise with the girl on the right!!!

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Both of the girls are hawt

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I call with the girl on the left and raise with the girl on the right!!!

better picture.

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Both of the girls are hawt


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Its funny how the good looking ones are always lined up in the front or right behind the camera, I wonder if they go through a sorting process
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Its funny how the good looking ones are always lined up in the front or right behind the camera, I wonder if they go through a sorting process
gee... you think?
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i lol'd



Haha did you see the gold bricks on the desk behind james may. Woot next episode is gonna come out soon
gonna dl that right away and save it for the night to watch
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I always download them from finalgear.com, which directs you to mininova and final gear has all the seasons. I have seasons 10,11,12 and 13 on my comp.
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Episode 3 torrent:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/2739671
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Oh. My. God. KEN BLOCK FTMFW! YEAAAAAAAAAH!

You'll have to watch to see what I'm talking about.

YEAAAAAAAH! OMG I wish I had those driving skills.
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Oh. My. God. KEN BLOCK FTMFW! YEAAAAAAAAAH!


YEAAAAAAAH! OMG I wish I had those driving skills.
+1, great episode once again.


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