Suggestions please - $30k replacement (used or new) for a 3G TL
#82
08 MDX, 04 TL (sold)
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Test drove the 2014 Mazda 6 and I've got to say WOW, what a difference over the previous generation. My only issue is that it's a bit sluggish, but maybe I need to realize that my TL has spoiled me and that 200hp is plenty and the 38mpg highway is worth sacrificing a few horses. This vehicle is now on my short list along with a Kia Optima SX and a used IS350.
Now heading in a totally different direction, I'm starting to wonder if I should be looking at small 4-door hatchbacks instead... but they're all so ugly and cheap. Maybe the Lexus CT200h??? Or maybe I'm just crazy with that thought.
Now heading in a totally different direction, I'm starting to wonder if I should be looking at small 4-door hatchbacks instead... but they're all so ugly and cheap. Maybe the Lexus CT200h??? Or maybe I'm just crazy with that thought.
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08 MDX, 04 TL (sold)
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Testdrove a CT200h. I actually like the car quite a bit except that it is slow as all hell.
Back to my current lists:
Possible contenders in order of preference as of today. Still would like to test drive many of these:
Cars that have been suggested that I don't like.
Back to my current lists:
Possible contenders in order of preference as of today. Still would like to test drive many of these:
- Kia Optima SX Turbo. (Test drove and liked it a lot. Not sure if I trust Kia or a turbo for long-term reliability to 200k miles.)
- 2014 Mazda 6. (Test drove. Very nicely done. Could use a little more power. Handles very nicely.)
- Nissan Altima SL V6. (Test drove and it rides very nice. Handling is a bit soft, but acceptable. Tons of power.) Surprised by how pricey these are.
- Used Lexus IS350 AWD. (Test drove and loved it! Design is getting to be a bit old though, but still handsome. Hard to find even a high mileage one below $30k. I trust Lexus.)
- New or gently used Acura TSX. (Test drove and liked it. Styling just doesn't do it for me though. Why no slick LED taillights for example? I trust Acura.)
- Ford Fusion
- Honda Accord ELX V6. Need to test drive. I find it rather ugly though.
- Used Volvo S60
- Used Nissan Maxima
- Used Infinity G37x
- Subaru Legacy AWD 3.0 H6
- VW CC
Cars that have been suggested that I don't like.
- Lexus IS 250 AWD (slow, small). The upcoming 2013 IS sounds awesome, but will probably be out of my price range.
- Mazda 6 (Test drove and was not impressed. Highway mileage is pretty lame too.)
- BMW 328xi
- Dodge Charger
- Hyundai Sonata Turbo (test drove and did not like, Optima is much better for similar price and caliber vehicle)
- Honda Accord
- VW Jetta TDI Cup Edition
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So what do you WANT?
So what do you WANT?
#87
08 MDX, 04 TL (sold)
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I want a car that looks as good as the Kia Optima SX, handles like a BMW, is fully loaded with all the bells and whistles, has a 6-cyl engine, 0-60 times in the 6 second range, highway mpgs near 30, and has the low maintenance costs and high reliability of a Honda or Toyota, for under $30k (2-3 yrs used is acceptable). Is that too much to ask? My 04 TL meets all those requirements.
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I want a car that looks as good as the Kia Optima SX, handles like a BMW, is fully loaded with all the bells and whistles, has a 6-cyl engine, 0-60 times in the 6 second range, highway mpgs near 30, and has the low maintenance costs and high reliability of a Honda or Toyota, for under $30k (2-3 yrs used is acceptable). Is that too much to ask? My 04 TL meets all those requirements.
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#89
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
2008 TL-S 6 speed?
#91
TQ > MPG
I'm going through the same thought process. My CLS6 has 193k on it now, and I wonder how much longer it'll last. Its still on the original clutch, and when it goes I wont be able to justify $1k repair on a $3k car.
If you can budge on the mpg into the mid 20's you might want to consider the Taurus SHO (altho its pretty big). I sat in a couple 14 Mazda 6's and was REALLY impressed with the price and options list for the money. I have not driven one yet, but I'll bet the turbo diesel will feel faster than the gasoline engine. Plus it'll get 40+mpg....
If you can budge on the mpg into the mid 20's you might want to consider the Taurus SHO (altho its pretty big). I sat in a couple 14 Mazda 6's and was REALLY impressed with the price and options list for the money. I have not driven one yet, but I'll bet the turbo diesel will feel faster than the gasoline engine. Plus it'll get 40+mpg....
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Im also in somewhat in a similar situation. My list is even smaller, since i want a manual RWD or AWD car. I wanted a LegacyGT Limited but for some stupid reason subaru killed the GT from the legacy lineup for 2013. Now only manual legacy is the base model 2.5i, which sucks.
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I want a car that looks as good as the Kia Optima SX, handles like a BMW, is fully loaded with all the bells and whistles, has a 6-cyl engine, 0-60 times in the 6 second range, highway mpgs near 30, and has the low maintenance costs and high reliability of a Honda or Toyota, for under $30k (2-3 yrs used is acceptable). Is that too much to ask? My 04 TL meets all those requirements.
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Screw the list, test drive the new 2013 Mustang GT w/ track package, brembo's and recaro's
get out of your comfort zone and get something you'd really enjoy!
Unless of course you reallyyyyy need 4 doors.
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Unless of course you reallyyyyy need 4 doors.
#97
TQ > MPG
If you consider the ST you have to think about the Mazdaspeed 3 also. Problem is every one of these pants on fire hatchbacks are driven by complete dickwads. At an advanced age of 31 I think I'd feel like a toolbox getting in & out of one.....
#100
2016 Acura TLX
'13 Accord EX-L w/ nav V6 gives you pretty much everything you want.
#101
2024 Honda Civic Type R
Not really the case in what I've seen. In fact, on focusst.org the dominating age group is 50+, believe it or not... Now that may not completely represent the real world it does show that "dickwads" are not the only ones driving these cars. I resent that remark and you shouldn't paint with such a broad brush.
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#103
TQ > MPG
Thats just been my experience on the road. People say the same thing about Mustang drivers too, and I dont drive like a dickwad even though I have one.
I drive 20k+ miles a year in a urban/metropolitan area, pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. Your experience may vary.
I drive 20k+ miles a year in a urban/metropolitan area, pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. Your experience may vary.
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#105
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Try the Acura ILX with the 6m/t. It has the same motor as the Civic Si, same transmission a bit more body roll and bit softer suspension. It's got all the bells and whistles, reverse camera, bluetooth etc, and it's under 30K. 0-60 in high 6 second range. Slightly slower than the TL was new, but compareable.
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Oh maaan
keep both
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The sizzle in the Steak
Nice Optima
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#117
08 MDX, 04 TL (sold)
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Just a few days. Tons of interest. (It was the only TL within 100 miles listed below $7000.) Lots of people hesitant to actually buy (or even come see it) due to the high miles. A few that were actually serious and impressed with the condition and then finally one that made a high enough offer that seemed pretty fair to me.
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