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My advice, don't go new.
Get a used car and your choices are far greater.
I'm an Audi whore ... You could get a 2008 Audi A4 S-Line 6MT Quattro for less than $30k ... Maybe even certified.
Or a 2008 BMW 335xi 6MT is an alternative.
I think new limits your choices
Get a used car and your choices are far greater.
I'm an Audi whore ... You could get a 2008 Audi A4 S-Line 6MT Quattro for less than $30k ... Maybe even certified.
Or a 2008 BMW 335xi 6MT is an alternative.
I think new limits your choices
You could go RWD, I have driven my Genesis every day this winter (with the exception of one because I was away), and it's snowed 65" this winter. All it required is a snow tire and you'll be all set, with that said look into a G25 sedan brand new or a TSX.
*edit* G25 is a 7spd manual, my mistake, however you get the idea.
*edit* G25 is a 7spd manual, my mistake, however you get the idea.
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I wouldn't consider new.
BMW 3 or 5
Audi A4
You could pick up a nice Legacy GT SpecB (2008+ would be my preference) for ~ 20K and make it into a hell of a capable vehicle with the rest of the $$.
BMW 3 or 5
Audi A4
You could pick up a nice Legacy GT SpecB (2008+ would be my preference) for ~ 20K and make it into a hell of a capable vehicle with the rest of the $$.
I think him wanting a sedan limits his options as it severly shortens the list of new cars priced under $30K.

Agree with Matt. The thing with Subaru is the AWD is symmetrical, and not a 90/10 situation where power is only distributed when needed.
That being said, the SpecB version of the LGT is a 45/55 split for a more sporty feel, Torsen LSD in the rear, Bilstein inverted strut setup for the suspension, and stock 18 inch wheels (the last two lower the car a touch).
Also, a used CTS with a V6 AWD might be @ $30K. 300 HP plus.

Agree with Matt. The thing with Subaru is the AWD is symmetrical, and not a 90/10 situation where power is only distributed when needed.
That being said, the SpecB version of the LGT is a 45/55 split for a more sporty feel, Torsen LSD in the rear, Bilstein inverted strut setup for the suspension, and stock 18 inch wheels (the last two lower the car a touch).

Agree with Matt. The thing with Subaru is the AWD is symmetrical, and not a 90/10 situation where power is only distributed when needed.
That being said, the SpecB version of the LGT is a 45/55 split for a more sporty feel, Torsen LSD in the rear, Bilstein inverted strut setup for the suspension, and stock 18 inch wheels (the last two lower the car a touch).
Also, a used CTS with a V6 AWD might be @ $30K. 300 HP plus.
You could go RWD, I have driven my Genesis every day this winter (with the exception of one because I was away), and it's snowed 65" this winter. All it required is a snow tire and you'll be all set, with that said look into a G25 sedan brand new or a TSX.
*edit* G25 is a 7spd manual, my mistake, however you get the idea.
*edit* G25 is a 7spd manual, my mistake, however you get the idea.
Used wrx sti that was just a daily, or an Evo IMO, both are durable cars try to find one that hasn't been modded because I checked auto trader and alot of people that bought them seem to be getting rid of them for econo boxes
Update
First off, thanks to everyone for all the suggestions and even though I didn't take them, I did consider a lot of them.
I ended up getting a new 2011 sonata. Since my wife doesn't drive stick, I ended up getting an auto trans.
The car is beautiful to look at and the drive is decent too. Even though it's a turbo, the mpg numbers look very good.
Here is the link with pics.
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/yet-another-new-car-2011-hyundai-sonata-812073/
First off, thanks to everyone for all the suggestions and even though I didn't take them, I did consider a lot of them.
I ended up getting a new 2011 sonata. Since my wife doesn't drive stick, I ended up getting an auto trans.
The car is beautiful to look at and the drive is decent too. Even though it's a turbo, the mpg numbers look very good.
Here is the link with pics.
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/yet-another-new-car-2011-hyundai-sonata-812073/
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What do you guys think of the 2008 Audi A4's? I was surprised at how cheap they are now. I've been doing research and can't find anything wrong with the model. Why are they so cheap compared to bmw and benz's of the same year/class?
Basically, I need an awd vehicle because I'm "essential personnel" at my new job.
Basically, I need an awd vehicle because I'm "essential personnel" at my new job.
What do you guys think of the 2008 Audi A4's? I was surprised at how cheap they are now. I've been doing research and can't find anything wrong with the model. Why are they so cheap compared to bmw and benz's of the same year/class?
Basically, I need an awd vehicle because I'm "essential personnel" at my new job.
Basically, I need an awd vehicle because I'm "essential personnel" at my new job.
What do you guys think of the 2008 Audi A4's? I was surprised at how cheap they are now. I've been doing research and can't find anything wrong with the model. Why are they so cheap compared to bmw and benz's of the same year/class?
Basically, I need an awd vehicle because I'm "essential personnel" at my new job.
Basically, I need an awd vehicle because I'm "essential personnel" at my new job.
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