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Old May 14, 2018 | 04:24 PM
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srika's 335i build thread (2009 E90)

Got some new shoes for the 335. BBS CH 19” a solid deal on CL for a very lightly used set with Michelin super sports. I never really saw myself doing triple black but I am loving it!


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One of my favorite BBS wheels. Such a timeless and clean design. Really dig the blackout. Thought about powder coating the exhaust tips at all?
Ditto been a fan of them forever - that's why when I happened to see these I jumped on them. I haven't considered that - maybe. I am thinking I need a sport front bumper and rear valance of some kind, along with the duck spoiler and some side skirts, but gonna do it in stages. Also gonna do the Burger intakes, I need to get a few injectors replaced and then I will do JB4. Also adding a JL 10W7 with JL amp in a box - stock system is quite good on the highs but I want more bass.

In other news, the Alpina B7 is going away - started having too many problems. Right now I need to get the Navi system fixed and AC compressor replaced, after I do that its for sale. Had my fun with it but now its just a money pit.

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Old May 15, 2018 | 07:29 AM
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Those sound like some good plans for the car. Can't wait to see it come together.

Sorry to hear about the B7. Great looking but I can't imagine how much of a money pit it is.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Those sound like some good plans for the car. Can't wait to see it come together.

Sorry to hear about the B7. Great looking but I can't imagine how much of a money pit it is.
I had been putting off replacing 3 or 4 injectors for a while, it has a rough idle. After pondering it some more and discussing with friends, it doesn't cost much more to do a single turbo setup on the car. So I am pondering that now lol.

The B7's demise was inevitable. I put 14,000 miles on it since I got it a year ago so had my cruising fun.

Here's another view of when I had the wheels put on the 335.

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Old May 15, 2018 | 11:41 AM
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I had been putting off replacing 3 or 4 injectors for a while, it has a rough idle. After pondering it some more and discussing with friends, it doesn't cost much more to do a single turbo setup on the car. So I am pondering that now lol.
What's the benefit of the single-turbo setup? I've been happy to have the two-turbos for the additional power I can get out of a tune.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 11:58 AM
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Single turbo 335s are great - what turbo would you plan on going with srika?

I might be a bit biased but, I thoroughly enjoy a twin turbo car ... nothing beats the low end insta-torque.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
What's the benefit of the single-turbo setup? I've been happy to have the two-turbos for the additional power I can get out of a tune.
Nice thing about a single turbo is you essentially half your potential issues straight away - less chance of wastegate failures, boost leaks, etc.

All depends on the size of turbo but - Only draw back would be the powerband wouldn't be as linear .. but you trade it for better top-end.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
What's the benefit of the single-turbo setup? I've been happy to have the two-turbos for the additional power I can get out of a tune.
it has to do with my specific situation - but I haven't made any decision yet - see below for more info
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Single turbo 335s are great - what turbo would you plan on going with srika?

I might be a bit biased but, I thoroughly enjoy a twin turbo car ... nothing beats the low end insta-torque.
I don't know yet - I searched briefly and was amazed at the number of options out there - I don't want to break the bank though - I would be looking at mid-range options. Thanks for the words about the twin turbo setup, I think I will look into any upgrade routes for that as well.
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Nice thing about a single turbo is you essentially half your potential issues straight away - less chance of wastegate failures, boost leaks, etc.

All depends on the size of turbo but - Only draw back would be the powerband wouldn't be as linear .. but you trade it for better top-end.
well that's along the lines of why I was suggested to go that route - since I was having fuel system issues (injectors) an upgrade kit should ideally address that stuff in one shot since it will need to address the fuel system as well - the cost to fix the factory injectors is high enough and close enough to a single turbo setup so that's why it's being considered.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:29 PM
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There better be a build thread here!
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
There better be a build thread here!


hmmm I suppose I could create one.........
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerT
Nice thing about a single turbo is you essentially half your potential issues straight away - less chance of wastegate failures, boost leaks, etc.

All depends on the size of turbo but - Only draw back would be the powerband wouldn't be as linear .. but you trade it for better top-end.
so your S4 is single turbo? if so how is it going? would love to hear a summary of your experience
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:39 PM
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n/m it appears you have twin K04's - nice!
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
it has to do with my specific situation - but I haven't made any decision yet - see below for more info.
I replaced all six of my injectors about six months ago. 135k miles and a couple of them failed. Unfortunately, they all need to be of a compatible series, so I ended up doing all of them. Expensive, but I've put a lot of miles on this car, so it's kind of to be expected.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:47 PM
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diff'rent strokes.....

having just put on those wheels, I think I'm looking for the "tuner" route....
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
I replaced all six of my injectors about six months ago. 135k miles and a couple of them failed. Unfortunately, they all need to be of a compatible series, so I ended up doing all of them. Expensive, but I've put a lot of miles on this car, so it's kind of to be expected.
Curious, did you do it at a BMW dealer or independent? What was the source of the injectors? PM if you'd rather. These issues have been the cause of much misery for my 335 ownership experience so I'm curious how you've done it. I replaced 3 bad ones last year through a 3rd party supplier on ebay and an independent shop and it didn't solve the problem The savings weren't justified... So that's why this time I was going to get them done at the dealer.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 12:53 PM
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What would be your power goals? Ideally?

From what I recall, 335 motors are pretty stout ...
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Old May 15, 2018 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
Curious, did you do it at a BMW dealer or independent? What was the source of the injectors? PM if you'd rather. These issues have been the cause of much misery for my 335 ownership experience so I'm curious how you've done it. I replaced 3 bad ones last year through a 3rd party supplier on ebay and an independent shop and it didn't solve the problem The savings weren't justified... So that's why this time I was going to get them done at the dealer.
Did the repair through an independent, but we used BMW parts from the dealership. We upgraded to the latest version of the injectors (they've gone through several iterations over the years) and we did them all to make sure they were compatible. Engine has been running smooth ever since.

I should also add, I did the walnut blasting of the valves, too. That's really important to do about every 60k-75k.
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Originally Posted by TylerT
What would be your power goals? Ideally?

From what I recall, 335 motors are pretty stout ...
Rumor has it that the N54 has forged internals, but the N55 doesn't, allowing tuners to be a bit more aggressive with the N54. Not sure if that's true, but that's certainly been the talk over the years.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerT
What would be your power goals? Ideally?

From what I recall, 335 motors are pretty stout ...
I would like to keep some tractability so I would be looking for a turbo that has a broader power range - around 500rwhp on the high end would be fine with me, I'm not looking for crazy fast. I also don't wanna go crazy with the rest of the mods that are needed for the higher hp's.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Rumor has it that the N54 has forged internals, but the N55 doesn't, allowing tuners to be a bit more aggressive with the N54. Not sure if that's true, but that's certainly been the talk over the years.
That's awesome - Forged internals are always a nice addition!

I wonder if it's connecting rods are forged too ...

Originally Posted by srika
I would like to keep some tractability so I would be looking for a turbo that has a broader power range - around 500rwhp on the high end would be fine with me, I'm not looking for crazy fast. I also don't wanna go crazy with the rest of the mods that are needed for the higher hp's.
Comparatively speaking from my build / experience, 500rwhp range would likely require:

Bigger injectors (if you plan on going E85, get 750CC and above)
Bigger turbo(s)
Beefier fuel pump
Bigger FMIC
Beefier Clutch setup
Good tuner

Good luck and definitely will look forward to your build thread
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Not sure what else is on your bimmer, but, maybe you should get a chipped ECU first? With intake and exhaust, I'm sure you can easily net a good 75hp/ft lbs, without going overboard on the mods.

I'm guessing the 335 is your daily? If so, doing a bunch of mods and cranking power to 575hp (at the crank) is likely stressing something, somewhere. If it was a toy car I'd say go for it... but if it's a daily purpose car, shiiiet... tune and basic bolt ons and call it a day

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Originally Posted by TylerT
That's awesome - Forged internals are always a nice addition!

I wonder if it's connecting rods are forged too ...



Comparatively speaking from my build / experience, 500rwhp range would likely require:

Bigger injectors (if you plan on going E85, get 750CC and above)
Bigger turbo(s)
Beefier fuel pump
Bigger FMIC
Beefier Clutch setup
Good tuner

Good luck and definitely will look forward to your build thread
Definitely need the new FMIC for that kind of power. These engines run hot.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Not sure what else is on your bimmer, but, maybe you should get a chipped ECU first? With intake and exhaust, I'm sure you can easily net a good 75hp/ft lbs, without going overboard on the mods.
Get out of here with your logic - this is about building up to a unique STK 335i!
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Originally Posted by TylerT
That's awesome - Forged internals are always a nice addition!

I wonder if it's connecting rods are forged too ...



Comparatively speaking from my build / experience, 500rwhp range would likely require:

Bigger injectors (if you plan on going E85, get 750CC and above)
Bigger turbo(s)
Beefier fuel pump
Bigger FMIC
Beefier Clutch setup
Good tuner

Good luck and definitely will look forward to your build thread
Plus tuning software (I have no idea what bimmers use), plus exhaust, plus intake(s), plus should likely address the brakes in some sort of fashion if you're creating 575hp at the crank... how are the stock oil and transmission coolers? Do they need to be beefed up also? I assume suspension is okay, but, if you're going to that power level, you need to really consider the whole package. Etc...
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Originally Posted by TylerT
Get out of here with your logic - this is about building up to a unique STK 335i!
coming from the guy who has an efficient and reliable daily, aside from his twin turbo fun car...
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Old May 15, 2018 | 04:49 PM
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thanks for the points

it seems like with the turbo kits they are based on the power rating and if it needs other upgrades those are included as well

I don't really know what I'm getting myself into....
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Old May 15, 2018 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Not sure what else is on your bimmer, but, maybe you should get a chipped ECU first? With intake and exhaust, I'm sure you can easily net a good 75hp/ft lbs, without going overboard on the mods.

I'm guessing the 335 is your daily? If so, doing a bunch of mods and cranking power to 575hp (at the crank) is likely stressing something, somewhere. If it was a toy car I'd say go for it... but if it's a daily purpose car, shiiiet... tune and basic bolt ons and call it a day
I was considering doing the JB4 route after getting the injectors fixed. And, truth be told, that route would probably be fine and dandy for me. This single turbo stuff is a wrench which was thrown into my plans.
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Old May 15, 2018 | 05:18 PM
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Adam does bring up a good point - JB4 & supporting mods would be much cheaper ... and something you could do yourself.

I think I oversimplified the conversion from twin turbo to single ... off the top of my head, you'd need a new exhaust manifold, all custom intercooler piping + whatever else you need to relocate to make more room in the engine bay ... plus what I mentioned in my previous post.

I'm sure I'm missing a few items
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Those BBS wheels look great! They are a classy design. Looking forward to your build
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Old May 15, 2018 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Predatorbird
Those BBS wheels look great! They are a classy design. Looking forward to your build
thanks - not sure what's gonna happen but let's see....

had a chance to take a dusk shot tonight

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I'm digging those wheels too. They look great.
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Old May 16, 2018 | 08:23 AM
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So clean. Now you need a lip kit or the sport bumpers to finish off from a styling point.

Also the fact you have the black kidney grills up front I think the car would look really good with the exhaust tips in black.
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Looks great, the machined lip give just enough contrast for them to not get lost in a sea of black.
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Old May 16, 2018 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
I'm digging those wheels too. They look great.
thanks
Originally Posted by TylerT
Adam does bring up a good point - JB4 & supporting mods would be much cheaper ... and something you could do yourself.

I think I oversimplified the conversion from twin turbo to single ... off the top of my head, you'd need a new exhaust manifold, all custom intercooler piping + whatever else you need to relocate to make more room in the engine bay ... plus what I mentioned in my previous post.

I'm sure I'm missing a few items
yeah, I'm gonna let the ideas simmer for a bit and see how stuff pans out. This is my "daily" so I am not particularly looking to make it a project car. If there's a "simpler" type of single turbo route I would want to research that. Also considering the lag issue - perhaps the JB4 and related mods might work better for my purposes and looking down the road.
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Those BBS wheels look great! They are a classy design. Looking forward to your build
thanks - let's see how it goes
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So clean. Now you need a lip kit or the sport bumpers to finish off from a styling point.

Also the fact you have the black kidney grills up front I think the car would look really good with the exhaust tips in black.
yeah that front bumper def needs to go and the rear to match. and I am interested in doing the exhaust tips black as well
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Looks great, the machined lip give just enough contrast for them to not get lost in a sea of black.
thanks - I agree

I need to do a proper wash on it and get some more pix
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Old May 16, 2018 | 08:57 PM
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Wouldn't you have to replace injectors regardless of whether you go single turbo or not? Or am I missing something?

Car looks great. I'm a big E90 fan.
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Car is looking good dude!
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very nice! Do you still have the "other" bmw?
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Looks great, the machined lip give just enough contrast for them to not get lost in a sea of black.
good eye - actually it’s that machined lip that completes the look for me - and I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have got there if they were completely black.
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Old May 18, 2018 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Aman
Wouldn't you have to replace injectors regardless of whether you go single turbo or not? Or am I missing something?

Car looks great. I'm a big E90 fan.
Thanks bud. Hmm well it’s just what we advised to me, I’m not sure on the specifics. But i think the angle was upgrade the fuel system at the same time with a turbo kit.
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very nice! Do you still have the "other" bmw?
I do, and I’ve had my fun with it. Put around 13k miles on it and the issues are starting to become too much. So I’m gonna get it fixed up and sold this year.
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Car is looking good dude!
Thanks boss.
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well, if your reason for upgrading is the need for the injectors in the first place it's not gonna be like for like...it'll be $xxx for stock injectors and no other cost or $xxxxxxxxxxxx for upgraded injectors and the slippery slope of having the taste for more power and everything you'll need to upgrade and break along the way.

not sure of your financials or your living situation but for a daily and a bunch of money spent you probably won't recover...I personally would stick with keeping it simple and do the maintenance required and maybe just a stage 1 or 2 tune (if it's like audi can you do stage 2 with just higher flowing downpipes?) and call it a day.

Car looks great though, and I'm so over black on black normally.
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Old May 27, 2018 | 12:25 PM
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well, if your reason for upgrading is the need for the injectors in the first place it's not gonna be like for like...it'll be $xxx for stock injectors and no other cost or $xxxxxxxxxxxx for upgraded injectors and the slippery slope of having the taste for more power and everything you'll need to upgrade and break along the way.

not sure of your financials or your living situation but for a daily and a bunch of money spent you probably won't recover...I personally would stick with keeping it simple and do the maintenance required and maybe just a stage 1 or 2 tune (if it's like audi can you do stage 2 with just higher flowing downpipes?) and call it a day.

Car looks great though, and I'm so over black on black normally.
Thanks for the suggestions - I agree and I'm not hell bent on doing this - I need to weigh a considerable number of other things before going in. I could see myself being quite content with the "basic" mods such as exhaust / intake / JB4 etc.
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