Sport Compacts just don't do it for me anymore...
Sport Compacts just don't do it for me anymore...
Back in middle school, high school, and through college I use to lust Civic hatchbacks with swaps, DC2 Integras, and more recently DC5 RSX-S. These cars were attainable and could be made stupid fast for a reasonable price. I was on Honda-tech tonight since I'm bored out of my mind and checked out the for sale section.
I saw a ton of cars that were modded very tastefully, but I just lost the passion for them. They lacked appeal to me, I couldn't see myself driving these cars on a daily basis anymore, even though I did six years ago. I wouldn't want to deal with the headaches from cops, kids trying to race me, thieves, and everything in between.
I guess my tastes have changed as I got older. I now lust over the upcoming CTS-V, G8 GT, ZR1, Camaro (actually have always liked f-bodies), RS4/6, 335i, M3, IS-F, etc. You get my point. I'm still a p*ssy when it comes to trying new car brands and will probably end up staying with Honda/Acura (new TL or TSX perhaps?). We'll see what's new and exciting.
So my question to you all reading this is: have you felt your tastes grew up as you did, or do you still like and want to drive the same cars as you did when you first began driving?
I saw a ton of cars that were modded very tastefully, but I just lost the passion for them. They lacked appeal to me, I couldn't see myself driving these cars on a daily basis anymore, even though I did six years ago. I wouldn't want to deal with the headaches from cops, kids trying to race me, thieves, and everything in between.
I guess my tastes have changed as I got older. I now lust over the upcoming CTS-V, G8 GT, ZR1, Camaro (actually have always liked f-bodies), RS4/6, 335i, M3, IS-F, etc. You get my point. I'm still a p*ssy when it comes to trying new car brands and will probably end up staying with Honda/Acura (new TL or TSX perhaps?). We'll see what's new and exciting.
So my question to you all reading this is: have you felt your tastes grew up as you did, or do you still like and want to drive the same cars as you did when you first began driving?
I am still a fan of these cars (especially the DC2) but only when they are done tastfully. I learned how to drive stick in an 88 honda civic hatch and then eventually to a 91 Nissan 240sx hatch. I can not however see my self driving a compact today or in the near future.

Though I still consider getting an S13 shell for a Silvia front, or an FD or FC for an LS1 swap as a future project, I'm not really interested in B-series swaps anymore as hatchbacks are a dime a dozen. My tastes definitely changed, I used to just think domestic =
for some reason, until I went out and drove a few.
I loved american cars growing up but once I started driving I fell in love with properly tuned japanese cars and german cars. People change, not much you can do! I can't imagine driving a tuned 4 banger after the age of 23-25.
Options, available $$ and priorities change as we get older.
I was a huge fan of the 67-73 Mustang fastbacks, but don't want to get one as a primary car now since 1) they are slow compared to the TL and a number of cars, 2) don't handle as well, 3) and are nowhere near as ergonomic or comfortable as modern cars. I did test the manual-tranny Mustang GT and RX-8 as potential primary cars, though.
Interestingly, I prefer "compact" size sport/lux cars such as the TSX, 3-series, etc., but went w/the TL for its power with an auto tranny (wife's request
), and will continue to look for the smallest exterior with a good power-to-weight ratio. No Buick for me yet...
I was a huge fan of the 67-73 Mustang fastbacks, but don't want to get one as a primary car now since 1) they are slow compared to the TL and a number of cars, 2) don't handle as well, 3) and are nowhere near as ergonomic or comfortable as modern cars. I did test the manual-tranny Mustang GT and RX-8 as potential primary cars, though.
Interestingly, I prefer "compact" size sport/lux cars such as the TSX, 3-series, etc., but went w/the TL for its power with an auto tranny (wife's request
), and will continue to look for the smallest exterior with a good power-to-weight ratio. No Buick for me yet...
I still like ALL cars for what they offer in their respective classes. I just went form a 2002 CL type S to a 2006 mazdaspeed 6. TOTALLY different cars yet both offer up different experiences in the driving and ownership experience.
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i came into the compact game with a 92 sentra se-r....and i'll always have a soft spot for them. but when it came time for me to purchase another car, i didn't give the compact side of the house much of a look, i peeped the wrx and the 3, but i just couldn't do it. i guess my tastes just got bigger, more custom, and a little more mature. i didn't want to jump back in the "boy racer" way....can't do that with a carseat in the back.
I have never been a fan of JDM/Fast&Furious Civics with engine swaps.
I have always been a fan of factory "hot hatches" though.
At 36, if I "grow" out of the hot hatchbacks it will be because I can afford something nicer not because their intrinsic qualities no long appeal to me.
I have always been a fan of factory "hot hatches" though.
At 36, if I "grow" out of the hot hatchbacks it will be because I can afford something nicer not because their intrinsic qualities no long appeal to me.
I'm regressing, I went from sport/luxury sedans to a sport compact and love it! Money wasn't the issue, in fact the S was cheaper then the G, I just enjoy driving light cars, for me right now its the ticket.
Originally Posted by iTimmy
I'm regressing, I went from sport/luxury sedans to a sport compact and love it! Money wasn't the issue, in fact the S was cheaper then the G, I just enjoy driving light cars, for me right now its the ticket.
Originally Posted by jz-97-c7
i came into the compact game with a 92 sentra se-r....and i'll always have a soft spot for them. but when it came time for me to purchase another car, i didn't give the compact side of the house much of a look, i peeped the wrx and the 3, but i just couldn't do it. i guess my tastes just got bigger, more custom, and a little more mature. i didn't want to jump back in the "boy racer" way....can't do that with a carseat in the back.
not 1 that i have owned has had a problem that wasn't in some way my fault.
ive liked the civic hatches with b16 swaps and stuff but i prefer more of a luxury car than a fast little beater... i like luxury more than all that stuff thats why i went with acura rather than getting the little civic hatch.. although my parents almost signed on a bmw but i thought of the headaches of repair costs and decided to go with a reliable brand.....
My taste has definately changed as I have gotten older. I was obsessed with Integra's. I have owned three (94 LS auto, 94 4dr GSR, 00 GSR) then I had my 05-RSX-S. They were all fun cars, but being harrassed by cops, racing, and being uncomfortable in the car became old to me.
Civics, tegs, RSX, are a dime a dozen and everyone does the same thing. I hate the internet forums that cater to these cars as well. A bunch of cocky bastards that obsess over making fun of people using stuipid internet talk.
I'm more of a sport/luxury fan now, and hopefully one day I'll be able to have an S2K, or and NSX in my garage as my toy. I wouldnt even own any of the above cars as a beater simply due to theft.
Civics, tegs, RSX, are a dime a dozen and everyone does the same thing. I hate the internet forums that cater to these cars as well. A bunch of cocky bastards that obsess over making fun of people using stuipid internet talk.
I'm more of a sport/luxury fan now, and hopefully one day I'll be able to have an S2K, or and NSX in my garage as my toy. I wouldnt even own any of the above cars as a beater simply due to theft.
Maybe a little, but i never really liked civics or integras --- my first car was a 97 accord LX that i learned to drive stick on - i put 140k miles on it with nothing but replacing a driver side window motor and regular scheduled maintenance (though when i sold it coulda used some suspension work) - thats really the only honda i ever liked.
My passion is pretty diverse tho, i dont know if id be happier with some old (or new) american muscle or a new BMW - but i know i dont have specific tastes for 4 cylinder cars, other than the gas mileage.
But all that being said i still look around for a 94-97 accord coupe as a beater...
My passion is pretty diverse tho, i dont know if id be happier with some old (or new) american muscle or a new BMW - but i know i dont have specific tastes for 4 cylinder cars, other than the gas mileage.
But all that being said i still look around for a 94-97 accord coupe as a beater...
My first car was a brand new 78 Corolla 2-door, which didn't sit in the driveway long before I started taking wrenches to it. No one was modding imports back then, it was still muscle cars for most of the guys in high school. I was always into imports, drooling over Porsche and Ferrari. As time has gone by, I graduated to Datsun Z cars, then an Accord, Avalon, TL-S, and now a Chrysler 300. I still like to see a very understated modded Civic, but I don't see myself driving one now.
Originally Posted by calgary2800
Very difficult to go back to a 4 cylinder car after driving V6s in such cars as TLS, G35, Accord V6. Some much smoother and slicker than 4 cylinder. Its just a higher class.
Originally Posted by calgary2800
Very difficult to go back to a 4 cylinder car after driving V6s in such cars as TLS, G35, Accord V6. Some much smoother and slicker than 4 cylinder. Its just a different class.
Originally Posted by Python2121
My tastes have changed in that I value light weight more than I did in the past
Amen to that...I recall an article in the past claiming that the CLS-S was the best-handling FWD car ever made (to date, circa 2003). I guess I'm not getting that experience with all 3500+ lbs plowing into corners & such, and I do miss my '95 GSR lots of times.
I appreciate the ride quality, interior, etc. of the nicer cars, but something always wants to drag me back to the high-revving, yet smooth 4 in a car weighing only 2600-ish lbs. I never modded it, never would, but loved the feeling of taking it up to 8k+ revs and keeping it "in the sweet spot".
I don't realistically see myself going back there ever again, unless I get a beater for fun. I'm now more interested in the higher power factory options, such as the S4, C6, AMG-series, G37, etc. 260hp seemed like so much back in late '02!
Originally Posted by Hapa DC5
Back in middle school, high school, and through college I use to lust Civic hatchbacks with swaps, DC2 Integras, and more recently DC5 RSX-S. These cars were attainable and could be made stupid fast for a reasonable price. I was on Honda-tech tonight since I'm bored out of my mind and checked out the for sale section.
I saw a ton of cars that were modded very tastefully, but I just lost the passion for them. They lacked appeal to me, I couldn't see myself driving these cars on a daily basis anymore, even though I did six years ago. I wouldn't want to deal with the headaches from cops, kids trying to race me, thieves, and everything in between.
I guess my tastes have changed as I got older. I now lust over the upcoming CTS-V, G8 GT, ZR1, Camaro (actually have always liked f-bodies), RS4/6, 335i, M3, IS-F, etc. You get my point. I'm still a p*ssy when it comes to trying new car brands and will probably end up staying with Honda/Acura (new TL or TSX perhaps?). We'll see what's new and exciting.
So my question to you all reading this is: have you felt your tastes grew up as you did, or do you still like and want to drive the same cars as you did when you first began driving?
I saw a ton of cars that were modded very tastefully, but I just lost the passion for them. They lacked appeal to me, I couldn't see myself driving these cars on a daily basis anymore, even though I did six years ago. I wouldn't want to deal with the headaches from cops, kids trying to race me, thieves, and everything in between.
I guess my tastes have changed as I got older. I now lust over the upcoming CTS-V, G8 GT, ZR1, Camaro (actually have always liked f-bodies), RS4/6, 335i, M3, IS-F, etc. You get my point. I'm still a p*ssy when it comes to trying new car brands and will probably end up staying with Honda/Acura (new TL or TSX perhaps?). We'll see what's new and exciting.
So my question to you all reading this is: have you felt your tastes grew up as you did, or do you still like and want to drive the same cars as you did when you first began driving?
Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
I know exactly what you mean. It's the same reason that I just got rid of my 06 Civic Si and am ordering an 08 335i in March.....
That said, the 335i is a great choice nonetheless.
Originally Posted by TheMirror
I could only see owning a sport compact as a dedicated track car.
My tastes have changed. There was a time when I said I would never own an import. That was a time when I ran the GN as the daily driver with an open downpipe and slicks and loved every earsplitting second of it. It was normal to get to work with my ears ringing and tears running from sitting at redlights with race gas fumes blowing through the car.
The TL has now taken over DD status and it's a great feeling to know the car is going to start every morning and the only maintenance is changing the oil and putting gas in it. No one stares at it and if it gets stolen it's a $500 deductable from being replaced.
I wouldn't say I've outgrown the GN by any means but I don't have the patience I once did to put up with it's little quirks on a daily basis.
The TL has now taken over DD status and it's a great feeling to know the car is going to start every morning and the only maintenance is changing the oil and putting gas in it. No one stares at it and if it gets stolen it's a $500 deductable from being replaced.
I wouldn't say I've outgrown the GN by any means but I don't have the patience I once did to put up with it's little quirks on a daily basis.
Originally Posted by LotusTracker
Are there any sport compacts aside from evo and sti that would even be worth tracking? 

Cheers,
-Mirror
Originally Posted by TheMirror
Yeah, there are a few I figure. Nothing fancy certainly, but EG or EK Civics with B-series or K-series swaps, Integras, and such and such. Strip those little devils to the bone and put a good drivetrain in 'em....and off you go. Simple cars, relatively inexpensive to run, and quite fast if properly prepared.
Cheers,
-Mirror
Cheers,
-Mirror
I would eventually like to get back into a sporty car at some point. But it will be a cold day in hell before it was a modded 4-banger. I went from the CL to my I35 (lately the Pathfinder) more out of necessity than desire.
Now about 10 years ago when I was thinking of getting rid of my V6 Camry for something like a Civic, I didn't see a problem. My taste just matured with me. I think that's common.
Now about 10 years ago when I was thinking of getting rid of my V6 Camry for something like a Civic, I didn't see a problem. My taste just matured with me. I think that's common.
Originally Posted by DelawareCLS
Amen to that...I recall an article in the past claiming that the CLS-S was the best-handling FWD car ever made (to date, circa 2003). I guess I'm not getting that experience with all 3500+ lbs plowing into corners & such, and I do miss my '95 GSR lots of times.
I appreciate the ride quality, interior, etc. of the nicer cars, but something always wants to drag me back to the high-revving, yet smooth 4 in a car weighing only 2600-ish lbs. I never modded it, never would, but loved the feeling of taking it up to 8k+ revs and keeping it "in the sweet spot".
I don't realistically see myself going back there ever again, unless I get a beater for fun. I'm now more interested in the higher power factory options, such as the S4, C6, AMG-series, G37, etc. 260hp seemed like so much back in late '02!
I appreciate the ride quality, interior, etc. of the nicer cars, but something always wants to drag me back to the high-revving, yet smooth 4 in a car weighing only 2600-ish lbs. I never modded it, never would, but loved the feeling of taking it up to 8k+ revs and keeping it "in the sweet spot".
I don't realistically see myself going back there ever again, unless I get a beater for fun. I'm now more interested in the higher power factory options, such as the S4, C6, AMG-series, G37, etc. 260hp seemed like so much back in late '02!
Originally Posted by LotusTracker
Are there any sport compacts aside from evo and sti that would even be worth tracking? 

BMW 1, 3
Audi 3, 4
VW GTi
MS3 (or even the plain Mazda 3)
Scion tC
Volvo C30 (maybe the S40)
I don't think my tastes have changed, I just think I've learned there are so many other things I can do with my money, and so many more important things to do with it.
I've always enjoyed reading about cars and learning about cars, but even when I was much younger, I always had a good handle on what class of cars I'd ever imagine myself owning and what I consider(ed) to be a waste of money. I've always been pretty realistic. That still stands. I never want to earn a paycheque only to support a fleeting part of life, such as a car.
I think I'm still pretty particular about what I want in a car, but I'm probably more open to looking at a larger variety of cars for those things. Keep in mind, the features I'd look for in a car are pretty moderate...nothing too crazy, so that makes things fairly easy. Reliability is a major factor to me, and since more and more cars are gaining strength in this category, I'm opening my mind. I hold no loyalty to Acura, and never really did (a failing tranny also helped greatly in keeping this open mindset).
I've always enjoyed reading about cars and learning about cars, but even when I was much younger, I always had a good handle on what class of cars I'd ever imagine myself owning and what I consider(ed) to be a waste of money. I've always been pretty realistic. That still stands. I never want to earn a paycheque only to support a fleeting part of life, such as a car.
I think I'm still pretty particular about what I want in a car, but I'm probably more open to looking at a larger variety of cars for those things. Keep in mind, the features I'd look for in a car are pretty moderate...nothing too crazy, so that makes things fairly easy. Reliability is a major factor to me, and since more and more cars are gaining strength in this category, I'm opening my mind. I hold no loyalty to Acura, and never really did (a failing tranny also helped greatly in keeping this open mindset).
Originally Posted by Will Y.
Stock, maybe modded, not including the Honda products:
BMW 1, 3
Audi 3, 4
VW GTi
MS3 (or even the plain Mazda 3)
Scion tC
Volvo C30 (maybe the S40)
BMW 1, 3
Audi 3, 4
VW GTi
MS3 (or even the plain Mazda 3)
Scion tC
Volvo C30 (maybe the S40)
Originally Posted by LotusTracker
Aside from the bmw/audi all the fwd ones would suck on a road course.







with Killer's post.
