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Old May 16, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Saw a Panamera at the car show yesterday and...

this is another car that I have to say that you have to see it in person to appreciate it. I actually like it now. I think there are far too many buttons in the cockpit but I like the interior styling overall. On the outside it has a wide and low stance that is rarely captured in pictures. I don't think it'll ever appeal to Porsche purists but it is far better than the Cayenne.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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I have seen a few and I still can't appreciate. I can't stand that car.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Old May 16, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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I see one every day, and still think they are ugly as shit.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
I have seen a few and I still can't appreciate. I can't stand that car.
Seen quite a few on the road here in so cal and it still looks to me.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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I hated these...hated them....saw them on the road...hated them.

Then...I saw them more up close at the auto show, sat in them...seen even more on the roads now, and I hate to admit that they have grown on me a lot.

I dont care for the interior design so much. Back seat is a bit cramped...but the exterior can look very sexy in the right trim.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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I'm going to have to agree with the respondents, sorry. I've seen several and sat in one. It's just ugly, worse than the TL in my opinion by far.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Nothing is uglier than the TL, lets be serious here.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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Nothing is uglier than the TL, lets be serious here.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Nothing is uglier than the TL, lets be serious here.
Maybe if you don't paint the grille. The grille is the only ugly thing on the TL. The Panamera can't be fixed.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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These look good to me











There is a lot more wrong with the TL than just the grille IMO.

The fat bumpers, the bloated looking out perspective wheels flares, giant front bumper that flares out at the bottom and has loads of dead space, The super thick C pillars, The giant waste of dead space in the rear quarter panels leading all the back to the a huge dead space between the tails lights and the lower refelectors at the bottom of the bumper. The car is out of proportion and out shape.








The Panamera has WAY more going for it.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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I saw this car in person myself and it looks worse than any of the photos posted.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
These look good to me


The Panamera has WAY more going for it.
Okay then we disagree....
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Old May 16, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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Okay then we disagree....
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Old May 16, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
I have seen a few and I still can't appreciate. I can't stand that car.
Originally Posted by TommySalami
Originally Posted by paz840
I still think they are ugly as shit.
Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Seen quite a few on the road here in so cal and it still looks to me.
Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I hated these...hated them....saw them on the road...hated them.
Originally Posted by MyCarIsntInMyWifesName
I'm going to have to agree with the respondents, sorry. I've seen several and sat in one.
with everything

I admit, the 4G TL can look good with a LOT of work though. RJ grille, a drop, wheels, painted trim underneath the trunk, blacked out rear fogs (or) delete, different exhaust tips, and if its not an SH-AWD, rockblocker film on the (running?) lights just above the fogs. But that crease in the trunk is just unnatural looking. The 4G looks better in darker colors, but I've seen the Panamera at several different angles up close (was in the lane next to me while I wasn't driving) and in different colors while I was down in SoCal and it just does not look good.

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Old May 16, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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I really, really, really, really, REALLY hated the 4G - I can't stress this enough. I was claiming doomsday for Acura and all sorts of things until I finally saw buckvegas's 4G over 2 years after I first saw the 4G in pictures. It looked good, even in the pictures. But that was only with all the aforementioned work done to the TL.... for the Panamera I don't see anything happening. That hatch area is so ugly, and its ugly from all angles. It looks like a big egg when viewed from any angle if you're behind it.

Both the 4G and the Panamera looked bad in pictures, and only looked worse after I saw them in person too.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mourning Would
It looks like a big egg when viewed from any angle if you're behind it.
From some angles as you said, it looks like it's possibly retaining water
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Old May 16, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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i wouldn't say if someone dropped one off at my house, but wouldn't buy one.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Okay, here are my crappy phone pictures I took.

This 250C was siick!






The CTS-V Coupe was stunning! I thought I would not like this car in person. If I had my real camera I would have taken more shots.


The Stingray...build it!




The Panamera that made me like Panameras




...and while badass, I did not like the Rapide that much. The same class as the Panamera and I actually like the Panamera better




Last and least (interesting), this GTC sported a nice color


Those cars were really the only notibles at our car show this year, which is usually smaller than an online meet
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Old May 16, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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IS/C is one of the most awkward looking cars ever.... seen a few in person also that made me go
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Old May 16, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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^^ I hate that car..
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Old May 16, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Saw this in person at cars and coffee, and I gotta say I like it too. At first just viewing it from pics I never liked it. The interior looks really nice. And those seats look comfortable and supportive. It has great rear seats that also look very supportive.

There's a reason its Porsche's best selling car in the states
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Old May 16, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Do I love the Panamera? No, but it looks better in person than it does in pictures.

And Rapide>Panamera
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Old May 16, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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I see quite a few of these a day in L.A. and I'm still a little undecided on whether I like it or not. I think the car looks great, up until you get to the rear. Yes it is classic Porsche styling, but it would look better if it looked like it has a trunk instead of the rounded hatchback look.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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i accidentally walked into a parallel parked one on thursday after dodging a wreckless cabbie. the alarm went off, but no damage, obviously. let me just say that the alarm was LOUD. the bumpers were also pretty damn beat up from NYC parking. anyway, i took a quick peek inside. the dash layout looked pretty overwhelming. interestingly enough, at 3 pm today, i saw a biker get hit by a minivan at the same corner. no injury, just arguing...they really need to do something with that traffic light.

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Old May 16, 2010 | 08:41 PM
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Looks like dog shit. Honestly, this is in the running with the 4G as the ugliest piece of shit on the road today.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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I think in the right trim like Sarlacc said it really must be seen to be appreciated. But again, it's a niche market just like the X6. They can look ok with some help but I still would rather spend that coin on another 4 door.



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Old May 17, 2010 | 01:04 AM
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I spotted a hawt female closing the hatch on her Panamera in Pasadena, I was way too distracted to take a good look at the Panamera. At a quick glance in my rear-view, it looked alright
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Old May 17, 2010 | 01:07 AM
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I'd push a Panamera Turbo.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by princelybug
I'd push a Panamera Turbo.


oh snap, there's your RWD sporty sedan with a manual transmission!













I don't think it's available in stick though, damn....
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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:23 AM
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I'll admit it, I saw one and liked it, not fell in love but it looked pretty nice for what it is
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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:33 AM
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the pics that nokiaman posted kinda show what's wrong with it IMO. Compared to the yellow 996 the Panamera looks huge. If they pushed the C-pillar forward a little and made the rear more raked without that ending the rear bumper so bluntly, it would look a lot better.

I remember this really disproportionate looking media sketch of the Panamera, but I like the rear cause it isn't as weird looking as the production model

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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:51 AM
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Ask anybody who knows me and they'll tell you right away that I almost never like new cars or redesigns. If I like a new model or a redesign right off the bat, it's a miracle. And I have liked the Panamera from day one. That car is hawt.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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I saw a white one driving through my neighbourhood and I liked it. But I have't seen a picture that did the car justice. I wanna see in person a black one with tinted windows and some black wheels. I think it would look good
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Old May 17, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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Someone in my office complex has one and I see it quite often. It looks a little awkward, but I don't think it's too bad.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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I'm surprised as to how many people dont like it, and yet its porsche's best selling car haha
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Old May 17, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
I think in the right trim like Sarlacc said it really must be seen to be appreciated. But again, it's a niche market just like the X6. They can look ok with some help but I still would rather spend that coin on another 4 door.

I'd much rather have the red one in the middle
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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Maybe if you don't paint the grille. The grille is the only ugly thing on the TL. The Panamera can't be fixed.
Even with the grilled blacked out...something about that car doesn't sit well with me.

Interior is beautiful, but exterior is awful especially the back.

And speaking of Porsche...The GT2-Rs = SEX. Will be the fastest legal road car right?
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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
I'm surprised as to how many people dont like it, and yet its porsche's best selling car haha
It makes sense. Not everyone needs/wants an SUV. The Panamera is competitively priced with the 911, but the Panamera is MUCH more suitable as a tourer since the 911's backseat is basically for insurance purposes. A lot of people said "wtf?!" when the Cayenne first came out, but it ended up being Porsche's best seller when it first came out too. Add on top of that, the Panamera is new so of course people are going to buy it. There were quite a lot of 4G TL buyers initially but sales have dropped off recently to the midpack.... anyone would know how much everyone loves the 4G.

I suspect once the new Cayenne comes out it'll reclaim the title of Porsche's best selling model.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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I like the Rapide much better than the Panamera. The Panamera's trunk just looks unnatural.

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