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Old May 7, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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R&T comparo: G37S vs Genesis coupe

I love stories like this. Makes me feel good about my car again!

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=8019
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Old May 8, 2009 | 12:36 AM
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Still comparing a Hyundai vs. Infiniti.

Infiniti better come out on top.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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Seems a more reasonable comparison than a G37 to the TSX, A4, and CC. Afterall, it's two RWD coupes with just over 300hp. And for anyone who doesn't click the link, there were two drivers; one picked the G37, the other picked the Genesis. It was a good read.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Weird that they compared a Journey against the 3.8 Track. Shouldn't a G37S have been the right car to pit against the Hyundai?
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Old May 8, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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I read it. Honestly I liked the Hyundai better for a whopping $15k less. Of course over $5000 of that difference is options I wouldn't even bother with on the G37, but it's still a huge fucking difference for not that much more car.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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I think the G37 looks better but it's not $15K better then the Hyundai
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Old May 8, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Weird that they compared a Journey against the 3.8 Track. Shouldn't a G37S have been the right car to pit against the Hyundai?
More like an Altima should have been compared being in the same price bracket!
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Old May 8, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdog
More like an Altima should have been compared being in the same price bracket!
OMG, that's front-wheel drive worst idea evar ...

I would hope the G37 was better considering the cost differential but that's not really my point.

Why test the top-line Track Genesis against the Journey? Isn't the Journey the luxury-oriented trim level?
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Old May 8, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Why test the top-line Track Genesis against the Journey? Isn't the Journey the luxury-oriented trim level?
You're right, the Journey is the posh version. It doesn't make much sense to compare those two. Guess I missed the title on the article, just read the title here, which indicated it was the Sport.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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I finally saw a Gen Coupe in person the other day when I picked my co-worker up from the Hyundai dealership. It was a dark gray 3.8 Track. I was impressed. It appeared larger in person that it looks in pictures and the front wasn't as distracting in person. I thought it actually had a very upscale look to it.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
OMG, that's front-wheel drive worst idea evar ...
300hp/300lb-ft Northstar V8 Cadillac STS/ETC?
300hp/323lb-ft LS4 V8 06-09 Impala SS?
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Old May 8, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chill_dog
You're right, the Journey is the posh version. It doesn't make much sense to compare those two. Guess I missed the title on the article, just read the title here, which indicated it was the Sport.
There was no 6mt Sport in the press pool to test, but the Journey had the sport package which is basically the same thing minus the 6mt.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperTrooper169
I finally saw a Gen Coupe in person the other day when I picked my co-worker up from the Hyundai dealership. It was a dark gray 3.8 Track. I was impressed. It appeared larger in person that it looks in pictures and the front wasn't as distracting in person. I thought it actually had a very upscale look to it.
Yeah, I know. It looks much better in person.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Why test the top-line Track Genesis against the Journey? Isn't the Journey the luxury-oriented trim level?
The G37S Journey is the G37 Sport, without the manual gearbox. What they were driving, from the looks of it was a G37S Journey
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Originally Posted by charliemike

Why test the top-line Track Genesis against the Journey? Isn't the Journey the luxury-oriented trim level?
Call R&T.
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I think the Gen-coupe is a fantastic car and an incredible bargain, but the G is just much more refined and upscale (as it should be). Personally, I care alot about interior design and quality as well as luxury equipment (HID, sat-nav, internal HD, heated seats, dimming mirrors, 10+ speaker sound systems, etc) and in this area there is no contest between the cars. The Hyundai is a great little sports car but the G37 is a luxury GT. Big difference.....
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This thread reminds me of the old days of Acura vs BMW debates.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
This thread reminds me of the old days of Acura vs BMW debates.
after all these years, I still don't think that a stock 5spd 330CI can go 14.4 like car and driver said, so lets not go there!!
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Old May 10, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
This thread reminds me of the old days of Acura vs BMW debates.
Who was that chick that everyone bashed so much for being a BMW nutswinger? Those old threads were great
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Old May 10, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Nikki? I think she stayed mostly in the TSX forum.

I seen her all over the BMW forums now.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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There's also a comparo between the Camaro V6 and the Genesis V6 (R&T or MT), and Genesis also lost that one. I wonder if anyone is going to compare the Camaro and the G37...lol.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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There's also a comparo between the Camaro V6 and the Genesis V6 (R&T or MT), and Genesis also lost that one. I wonder if anyone is going to compare the Camaro and the G37...lol.
Car and Driver...a V6 Camaro vs. a loaded Genesis. The Camaro finished on top.
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
Car and Driver...a V6 Camaro vs. a loaded Genesis. The Camaro finished on top.
*gigantic, melodramatic eyeroll with a huffy sigh*

I'm kidding you moostache lovers!
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Old May 10, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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I'd pick a camaro over the genesis too.

Granted i havent driven the Camaro but reviews said it handles better than a G8. If so, then im SOLD!
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Old May 11, 2009 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
Car and Driver...a V6 Camaro vs. a loaded Genesis. The Camaro finished on top.
lol, thanks for the correction!
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Old May 11, 2009 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
Car and Driver...a V6 Camaro vs. a loaded Genesis. The Camaro finished on top.
I read the issue and its a pretty stupid comparison. The Genesis lost by 1 point and that's mostly due to C&D giving Camaro a shitload of points in the "gotta have it" category. Gensis pretty much won all the other categories.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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Just the mere fact that this car is being compared to highly respected cars from Japan, Germany and the U.S. makes it a winner in it's own right.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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if you need a magazine comparison to feel good about your car again,
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Originally Posted by knight rider
The G37S Journey is the G37 Sport, without the manual gearbox. What they were driving, from the looks of it was a G37S Journey
Thank you ... Confusing marketing FTL.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
I'd pick a camaro over the genesis too.

Granted i havent driven the Camaro but reviews said it handles better than a G8. If so, then im SOLD!
I don't think you'd look good with a moostache and a trucker hat
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I don't think you'd look good with a moostache and a trucker hat

Hey, the 90s called. They want their jokes back.
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
Car and Driver...a V6 Camaro vs. a loaded Genesis. The Camaro finished on top.
That's not how my feet would vote, but if they insist...
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
if you need a magazine comparison to feel good about your car again,
Seriously, wasn't the OP talking about unloading his G37 just a couple months ago? The G37 is a capable coupe so get over your buyer's remorse and go drive it like it's meant to be driven
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yea i think i remember that.

ever since he got his G, he's had to justify his reasoning and rationale for purchasing it.

seriously. if it takes an article or review to make you feel good about your car again.
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Whatever. He was ready to dryhump the GTR based on the Senna comparo with the 911 turbo. Of course, that was before the 20K blown tranny issue

To each his own, I would rather be out driving my 911 then reading some car magazine article about it and I certainly don't need a comparison test to justify my ownership.
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Originally Posted by aznpxdd
I read the issue and its a pretty stupid comparison. The Genesis lost by 1 point and that's mostly due to C&D giving Camaro a shitload of points in the "gotta have it" category. Gensis pretty much won all the other categories.
Ya, that's true...lol..the "gotta have it" category sounds to me more like "how much Chevrolet (or insert your brand name) pays us annually" category.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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Whatever. He was ready to dryhump the GTR based on the Senna comparo with the 911 turbo. Of course, that was before the 20K blown tranny issue

To each his own, I would rather be out driving my 911 then reading some car magazine article about it and I certainly don't need a comparison test to justify my ownership.
Geez, I'd forgotten about that! You still stressing the GT-R Ricky??? Its ok, we all know you bought the wrong car!!
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Old May 11, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
yea i think i remember that.

ever since he got his G, he's had to justify his reasoning and rationale for purchasing it.

seriously. if it takes an article or review to make you feel good about your car again.
I don't think you're understanding what I was saying. I always feel good about seeing one of my cars in magazines, especially when they've been outta the press for a while. Its something I've always done. I remember when I got my 4th gen Prelude a few years ago, I bought a back issue of a '93 MT just to read an original road test of the VTEC. Guess its just me....
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
I don't think you're understanding what I was saying. I always feel good about seeing one of my cars in magazines, especially when they've been outta the press for a while. Its something I've always done. I remember when I got my 4th gen Prelude a few years ago, I bought a back issue of a '93 MT just to read an original road test of the VTEC. Guess its just me....
It's not just you. But I think the point was that if the review is good, take it for what it is. If it's bad but you love your car then take it for what it is ...

The opinion of some random asshole
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
I think the Gen-coupe is a fantastic car and an incredible bargain, but the G is just much more refined and upscale (as it should be). Personally, I care alot about interior design and quality as well as luxury equipment (HID, sat-nav, internal HD, heated seats, dimming mirrors, 10+ speaker sound systems, etc) and in this area there is no contest between the cars. The Hyundai is a great little sports car but the G37 is a luxury GT. Big difference.....
For over $15k it better be (tho, the new VQ engine is less refined than the Lambda engine in the Genesis) - Jalopnik and a few others actually think the Gen handles better on the track and has better steering feel.

Also keep in mind that Nissan has had plenty of time to tweak the G (remember, the G35 for the first few years had an interior not much better than the Gen and it was priced thousands higher) - while Hyundai has yet to even do a mid-cycle refresh.

Taking price into consideration, 2 of the 3 R&T's writers picked the Genesis (as did Edmunds and Popular Mechanics)

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There's also a comparo between the Camaro V6 and the Genesis V6 (R&T or MT), and Genesis also lost that one. I wonder if anyone is going to compare the Camaro and the G37...lol.
That was C&D and that was due to giving the Camaro a huge edge in points in the totally subjective "gotta have it" category.

MT did a comparo w/ the V6 Camaro and the they picked the Gen (tho, earlier, MT picked the Mustang GT over the Gen and the 370Z; picking the GT over the 370Z is a bit silly imo).
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