http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1761927

sorry if its a repost,I tried searching.

 

i don't get what possessed him to do that... and if you look in the last pic, the passenger seat is still in there... possibly before the modification to the interior... that heat must be crazy in the summer..

 

I am so confused right now. ????????

 

Fixed..

"questionable" is giving him a little too much credit.
I'm speachless...

 

why? I like how he also has two sets of fogs.

 

I like how he put base Mustang wheels on it.

 

I don't even know where to begin, so I won't.

 

Can you imagine the turbo lag in that thing? Nothing like having a dozen feet of tubing to pressurize.

Terry

 

looks like he's getting ready to replace his passanger seat with a fully functional pooper throne

 

 

Well, an American Standard passenger seat would not make that thing look any worse!

 

scary...i like the idea of remote mounted turbos, like the sts...but this takes it a little too far.

 

I've been following this build for a little while, if i'm not mistaken the kid that is doing it is about 17 years old and is doing it all w/ parts he basically got fromt he junkyard, his original budget was like $1200 but now he's at 2k I believe.




I think it's awesome, the kid knows it's not clean, etc he just wanted to see if he could do it. And he is, which i think is killer. Most of the people talking shit couldn't do any bit of the fabrication this kid has done.

 

I love "junkyard turbo" cars... my cousin has been working on his 67 mustang junkyard turbo for awhile...

Scott, It's awesome that the kid is learning this stuff at an early age, but I think that next time he should shoot for a "cleaner" installation

 

holy shit that thing looks hilarious...

 

 

My thoughts exactly. I wanted to do a twin on my V6, but there just wasn't room... I guess he found room! LOL. I think it's a great project, that's how people learn, and without people doing crazy stuff and learning how to do things differently, there would nothing cool in the world. He is thinking outside of the box... or in this case, out side of the engine compartment.

 

agreed, it's all trial and error you know. I love his drive.

 

lol he'd be dead w/i 10 seconds if there was ever and exhaust leak

 

I can understand his drive to do a turbo on a budget, and i give the guy credit for actually doing the work, but that is just not safe at all.

 

my eyes hurt, but props to the kid for learning and trying.

 

the lag will probably not be all that bad, but he'll probably lose a PSI or two through the tubing.


Look at the STS exhaust turbo setups, they are way in the back and produce little lag.

 

Turbo lag isn't really the loss of pressure, but the time involved to pressurize the system itself. Using the smaller turbos will help somewhat as spool time will be minimized, but the positioning of the turbos themselves is a tremendous distance from the engine. And of course the the additional plumbing for the intercoolers only makes for greater challenges. Drivability may indeed be an issue.

Terry

 

That's nuts.

 

ya, you didn't understand what I was saying. Look at systems that are at the back of a car like the STS turbo systems, then look at their dyno's and talk to the owners. Lag is not an issue.



The issue w/ having a system that far back IS the lost of a PSI or two while traveling through (for example, running a 9 psi gate will net an actual 7-8 psi)

 

I do indeed understand what you are saying. Having an interest in turbocharged vehicles and have built a few myself, I'm familiar with STS systems. Their systems are basically designed to be low inertia, low charge, and to work within factory specifications. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But to build a turbo friendly, high boost automobile one would certainly be limited with an STS system. There are numerous issues beside merely bolting on a turbo. Fuel delivery, injectors, wastegates, sensors, and numerous other considerations need to be addressed. And with any large capacity turbo, positioning is extremely important. Again, certainly not knocking the results of STS or their purchasers, but often the cars represented are big displacement strokers with numerous other modifications. I know of one user of a an STS system also uses a 200 shot of nitrous. One of my Grand Nationals was a consistent, street driven, low 10's car. Granted it pushed close to 28 lbs., but limited only by its factory internals. The charge system, carefully sorted, would have allowed for a quicker car yet.

I understand and certainly appreciate your thoughts that others don't understand the work and time involved with this project, but I certainly don't think other posters here have ridiculed the person building the car. And kudos for him for doing so, but the point of building something is to also learn from the experience of others and to improve upon it. I, like others, simply question how two impellers spinning upwards of 150 000 rpm and creating massive amounts of heat a foot away from your head is practical. And my personal thoughts are that the time and work involved may not lead to the results hoped for.

Terry