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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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Production GT500...

Damn shame they didn't keep the concept rear, looked so much better.......wheels also look small.











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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Wasn't the concept more bold?
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Wasn't the concept more bold?





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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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I Liked the concept better, but I would still rock the production version....
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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concept > production
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Concept looks 100X better

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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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That's it?

No drilled or slotted rotors, either? Even the previous Cobras had Brembo brakes up front!
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Wow, that's pretty awful. Looks pretty much like any stock v6 or GT. I was expecting a lot more out of the GT500, especially with "Gone in 60 Seconds" increasing the car's attention. Definately needs bigger wheels, a drop, a BBK, and a diff. color.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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damn. looks like ppl will be modding the hell out of those.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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looks like they stuck went w/ 18's instead of 19's. Like the hood. The aftermarket ducktail looks way better that this wing.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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The concept GT500 was a home run for Ford. All they had to do was build that car and people would have flocked to the dealers for it. People will still buy this because of the engine, but man does it look cheap/shitty now because of those changes.

Whoever made this decision should be shown the door quickly
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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I think the Saleens have 20" wheels!
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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i hope the nicer interior was carried over. The outside stuff is easy to fix.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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i hope the nicer interior was carried over. The outside stuff is easy to fix.



The concept was so much better, its like a tuned out verion for the production model.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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Exterior wise, from the front fascia back, its a stock GT, or V6....they better pull through with the engine mods....
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Hell, the local ford dealers are already selling GT knock-offs that look better than this.

I've seen a few that have had the rear quarter windows filled by the dealer, added a spolier/splitters, had new springs & wheels...really makes a HUGE difference in the look.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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I wonder if these will command the same premiums in 40 years.........
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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Maybe im blind...but aside from the wheels...I'm not seeing what was changed perhaps it the different color. but the body look the same.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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I heard that they are not releasing it till 07 now.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
Maybe im blind...but aside from the wheels...I'm not seeing what was changed perhaps it the different color. but the body look the same.



Besides the wheels which Ford already said would get smaller for production, I don't see a difference.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
Maybe im blind...but aside from the wheels...I'm not seeing what was changed perhaps it the different color. but the body look the same.
According to this particular model, it looks like it just got a new hood and some different wheels (aside from engine mods). What a total let down
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dom


Besides the wheels which Ford already said would get smaller for production, I don't see a difference.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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They didnt paint the vents on the production version.


Rear
1) In the top circle, they basically just added a lip spoiler to match the concept, whereas the concept had the third brakelight integrated into the spoiler and had the word SHELBY written below it.
2) The back cap in the second circle isnt a Shelby one, just a normal GT badge
3) They did a half ass job with the stripes. The painted the liscense plate holder area on the concept and didnt with the production.


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And it looks like they went with the 18's instead of 19's.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
Front
They didnt paint the vents on the production version.


Rear
1) In the top circle, they basically just added a lip spoiler to match the concept, whereas the concept had the third brakelight integrated into the spoiler and had the word SHELBY written below it.
2) The back cap in the second circle isnt a Shelby one, just a normal GT badge
3) They did a half ass job with the stripes. The painted the liscense plate holder area on the concept and didnt with the production.


Side
And it looks like they went with the 18's instead of 19's.

I noticed the hood vents but not the other changes you pointed out.

But point being, the changes IMO are hardly enough to justify the outrage that some have posted about in this thread.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
I noticed the hood vents but not the other changes you pointed out.

But point being, the changes IMO are hardly enough to justify the outrage that some have posted about in this thread.















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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
The concept GT500 was a home run for Ford. All they had to do was build that car and people would have flocked to the dealers for it. People will still buy this because of the engine, but man does it look cheap/shitty now because of those changes.

Whoever made this decision should be shown the door quickly

along w/ whoever told them to put a fucking live axle in that car!!
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
I wonder if these will command the same premiums in 40 years.........

that's a dumb question
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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The production model also appears to NOT have a break upgrade.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Extremely disappointing. They should have at least kept the concept rear for the production car.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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along w/ whoever told them to put a fucking live axle in that car!!
That's been an arguement for years... An IRS would be better for handling, but a live axle is usually better for the 1/4 mile. You know how it is on most forums, it's all about the 1/4 mile time. No one cares about lap times :shrugs:

Maybe Ford cheaped out (again) and decided it didn't want to do the IRS in the cobra and the live axle in the regular stang (didn't the 1999 cobra have IRS??).

My brother had a heck of a time with wheel hop in his modded Ford Supercoupe (IRS)...
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
But point being, the changes IMO are hardly enough to justify the outrage that some have posted about in this thread.
But is the engine alone enough to justify the extra cost of the Gt500 ??

It doesn't look like there is enough difference between the gt500 and the mustang gt bodywise to make anyone but a serious collector want to get in line for one...

Sure, it has a sweet engine, but is that and a couple of minor body mods with $14K (or there abouts) ??
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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That's been an arguement for years... An IRS would be better for handling, but a live axle is usually better for the 1/4 mile. You know how it is on most forums, it's all about the 1/4 mile time. No one cares about lap times :shrugs:

Maybe Ford cheaped out (again) and decided it didn't want to do the IRS in the cobra and the live axle in the regular stang (didn't the 1999 cobra have IRS??).

My brother had a heck of a time with wheel hop in his modded Ford Supercoupe (IRS)...

For the price, the GT500 should not be someones drag car, because they could take a GT and make it better cheaper. If it had IRS i'd be all over it. But that's just me, there are 2 sides to the spectrum
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
that's a dumb question

How is that a dumb question?
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
For the price, the GT500 should not be someones drag car, because they could take a GT and make it better cheaper. If it had IRS i'd be all over it. But that's just me, there are 2 sides to the spectrum
I think it's crazy too, but until the car companies hire me to offer my opinions, there's nothing I can do about it
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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I remember reading an article where Ford had either stated or implied that the next cobra (ie GT500) would be rather different from the regular Mustang because they wanted it to be something that could run with likes of the M3 and stuff...it would do more than just go fast in a straight line. Guess the changed their minds
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
How is that a dumb question?

cause they'll make a ton of them, they'll have zero racing heritage, etc, etc, etc.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
For the price, the GT500 should not be someones drag car, because they could take a GT and make it better cheaper. If it had IRS i'd be all over it. But that's just me, there are 2 sides to the spectrum

I couldnt agree more CL, for the money you could just trick out a stock one and come out way ahead. Is that yellow one really what the production car is going to look like or is that like one of the examples?
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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meh....

I don't get the antenna on the hood? It's ugly and normaly only found on trucks.

Also, the rearview mirrors are some of the cheapest looking shit I have ever seen. Isn't this a $50K car?

WTF Ford?
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
cause they'll make a ton of them, they'll have zero racing heritage, etc, etc, etc.


Minch, Rarity is usually central to collectibility... That's why some of us here that own one of the 3511 03 CLS 6spds made are hoping that the CL will see some cult of collectibility. Probably won't happen, as there are other factors other than rarity that affect collectibility.

Doesn't really matter what car make you look at, all the ones that go for big dollars are usually the low production models (Hemi's, ZL1, Z28, Yenko, GT350, GT500, etc). After that, condition, condition, condition, is probably the next consideration. If it's rare, and still has it's original paint, engine, etc. then it might be worth something... Some people will pay big dollars for a restoration, but I like the "time capsule" types of cars.

It's tough to look into the future to see what's going to be collectable.

Early 911 S's (pre-1974) in original low mileage condition are going for big bucks now, but they were quite affordable less then 10 years ago. It's funny because in some model years, I believe, that the E model is actually made in smaller production numbers then the S model. Of course the extra hp of the S is what really makes it collectible.

In recent time (over the past 10 years or so) I can only thing of maybe a couple of cars (off the top of my head) that even today have some value as collectibles. The Legend 6spd coupe is one that most here would be familiar with. The other one that I'm thinking of the the porsche 993 C2S. While the C4S (awd) might be popular with some because of the awd feature, the C2S is the rarer of the two. These cars command high prices even tho that are almost 10 years old.

The new GT500 will probably be produced in numbers that would far outnumber the original GT500's that were made in the 60's, so it's probably just going to be "just another" mustang...
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