Please drive carefully, videotaped in Utah on Jan 21, 2012 - Funny
01-24-2012, 11:32 PM
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Basically in weather such as this, you don't go out since everyone else will be driving like an idiot even IF your vehicle could handle it.
01-25-2012, 10:15 AM
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The point is even if you are fully equipped (with studded tires, a good AWD, etc), you can not defy the laws of physics.
01-25-2012, 11:05 AM
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^^^ THIS
to a point i completely agree, you will slip slide in the snow if you have your brakes pressed....the ABS system cant help you much there....I heel toe the brake and the gas in such scenarios.....
JS+MS3....for ICE no matter the tires/AWD system....you need studded tires....
for snow, any winter tire/all season tire will just do fine
EDIT: I didnt know the thread moved to a new page
to a point i completely agree, you will slip slide in the snow if you have your brakes pressed....the ABS system cant help you much there....I heel toe the brake and the gas in such scenarios.....
JS+MS3....for ICE no matter the tires/AWD system....you need studded tires....
for snow, any winter tire/all season tire will just do fine
EDIT: I didnt know the thread moved to a new page
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01-25-2012, 11:22 AM
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The problem is driving style. In Canada, we experience such driving conditions often, but most adapt quite well. The problem is spinning the tires continually over a snow covered surface. As the tires spin, heat is created and the snow melts, then freeing and turning to ice. Generally this isn't a problem if done sparingly, but continuos spinning or locking up the tires leads to a buildup of ice after a short period. You can see in the video posted how the drivers of numerous four-wheel drive vehicles attempted to climb the incline by spinning their wheels or travel down the incline with their wheels locked.
It's amazing how quickly tires can heat up, even while spinning in snow. This is why a vehicle can often become unstuck after the driver stops spinning the tires and lets them cool down. Warm tires on ice only cause a thin film of moisture, making traction much worse than a cool tire on an icy surface.
It's amazing how quickly tires can heat up, even while spinning in snow. This is why a vehicle can often become unstuck after the driver stops spinning the tires and lets them cool down. Warm tires on ice only cause a thin film of moisture, making traction much worse than a cool tire on an icy surface.
01-25-2012, 11:43 AM
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Good eye, he/she should have pulled a Clarkson and offer to tow all the big trucks up the hill just to rub it in.
01-25-2012, 11:50 AM
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^^^ THIS
to a point i completely agree, you will slip slide in the snow if you have your brakes pressed....the ABS system cant help you much there....I heel toe the brake and the gas in such scenarios.....
JS+MS3....for ICE no matter the tires/AWD system....you need studded tires....
for snow, any winter tire/all season tire will just do fine
EDIT: I didnt know the thread moved to a new page
to a point i completely agree, you will slip slide in the snow if you have your brakes pressed....the ABS system cant help you much there....I heel toe the brake and the gas in such scenarios.....
JS+MS3....for ICE no matter the tires/AWD system....you need studded tires....
for snow, any winter tire/all season tire will just do fine
EDIT: I didnt know the thread moved to a new page
01-25-2012, 11:50 AM
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The problem is driving style. In Canada, we experience such driving conditions often, but most adapt quite well. The problem is spinning the tires continually over a snow covered surface. As the tires spin, heat is created and the snow melts, then freeing and turning to ice. Generally this isn't a problem if done sparingly, but continuos spinning or locking up the tires leads to a buildup of ice after a short period. You can see in the video posted how the drivers of numerous four-wheel drive vehicles attempted to climb the incline by spinning their wheels or travel down the incline with their wheels locked.
It's amazing how quickly tires can heat up, even while spinning in snow. This is why a vehicle can often become unstuck after the driver stops spinning the tires and lets them cool down. Warm tires on ice only cause a thin film of moisture, making traction much worse than a cool tire on an icy surface.
It's amazing how quickly tires can heat up, even while spinning in snow. This is why a vehicle can often become unstuck after the driver stops spinning the tires and lets them cool down. Warm tires on ice only cause a thin film of moisture, making traction much worse than a cool tire on an icy surface.
01-25-2012, 12:22 PM
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No problem.
Have you ever watched curling? When they sweep in front of the rock? They aren't moving particulate out of the way, they're instead using friction to create a minute amount of moisture on top of the ice. Doing so allows the rock to move with much more ease.
It's the same principle with tires on ice or snow. Friction by way of spinning the tires or even locking them up at times creates moisture. This is why in some of the videos posted you can see a vehicle losing control and moving in different direction entirely once the wheels start spinning.
Have you ever watched curling? When they sweep in front of the rock? They aren't moving particulate out of the way, they're instead using friction to create a minute amount of moisture on top of the ice. Doing so allows the rock to move with much more ease.
It's the same principle with tires on ice or snow. Friction by way of spinning the tires or even locking them up at times creates moisture. This is why in some of the videos posted you can see a vehicle losing control and moving in different direction entirely once the wheels start spinning.
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01-25-2012, 02:19 PM
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I have been on an iced exit ramp from an elevated highway in Legend #1 (FWD AT), and when I was off the brakes, the FWD pulled me through without a noticeable slip. However, as soon as the brakes were applied, I started sliding. Keep it slow and steady and the worries are minimized. 
FWD FTW!
FWD FTW!
01-25-2012, 02:52 PM
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well you also have to look at it like this, that was a hill too, probably most of the people are being cheap driving on 50 tires I shall say, and going way too fast for conditions, I am honestly not surprised, I was actually waiting to see more carnage realistically.
01-25-2012, 03:24 PM
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What I believe is an RL in front of that guy did fine too.
I love how the FED EX truck is like f*ck this! I'm getting off this road!
I love how the FED EX truck is like f*ck this! I'm getting off this road!
01-25-2012, 03:26 PM
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i see a TL/RL @ 1.06
01-25-2012, 05:07 PM
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You're right, it's a TL. I didn't think they had the DRLs like that though. 
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