Yumcha

So, it may be a good drive but it may be possibly the ugliest wagon to the dance (if the snout look is true)...?

Still nope. Look, performance is great and all but if I'm driving something THAT ugly, I'd go for a slightly slower performance in a prettier vehicle. I mean, I hope the render is not correct because I'm a big fan of the BMW Touring trim right now.

oonowindoo

You want a girl with the nicest body but butterface or prettiest face with nasty ass body?

Think hard

Yumcha

Well, hang on. That's not the correct metaphor here.

If the M3 Touring is indeed coming out as per the 3-Series thread, then it's up against what? The RS6 Avant? Merc AMG Estate?

Those other girls to the party don't have "nasty @$$" bodies at all.

oonowindoo

RS4 Avant and C63 Estate... where ever those exist...

Yumcha

They don't right? Merc has the C43 AMG but that's not really a fair car to go against an M3.

Pricing-wise, if you loaded an M3/M4...how far away is it to an E63 AMG or RS6 Avant?

Costco

The analogue to the M3 Touring comparison is that there are multiple hot chicks with banging bodies and are freaks in bed

It's just that they're in other countries and aren't allowed to leave

oonowindoo

I think the touring will not be too much different than the sedan/coupe.. The price difference between the 3 series touring and other trims are minimal.
It will be even lesser of a factor at 80K+ price point.

I would think the loaded M3/M4 will be under 100k... just about where M5 starts...
I mean a CCB is $8k... just dont add it...

F80 M4 starts at 70k and X3M starts at 70k... so i think the G80 M3/4 will be around there...Most of the M3/4 will be slightly over $80k...
That is just my guess. So in short, there will be a big price gap between the RS6/E63S Estate and the M3/4.

mrmako

Yumcha: Can you (or someone with photoshop skills) render this with the white of the bumper going across where the license plate is? Basically separating the grill to make 4 grills? That might look OK. Kind of like the anti-beak work done on the TL.

Yumcha

That would have to be in the hands of someone else more capable and who has PS.

But, yeah, I think that may be an improvement. But, really, the new grille has nowhere to go but up in terms of improvement.

oonowindoo

There are some people on the forum who have seen the cars at an invitation only event... all of them said the grills on the M cars are much better and more tolerable than the ones on the 4 series.
Here are some the newer shots.

civicdrivr

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Nah

mrmako

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Looks like

Yumcha

QUICK! Look at this Touring to wash away the bad taste...

mrmako

^Ahhh, better than drinking from the Bangle inspired buck tooth beer glass we have seen here lately.

Yumcha

Yumcha

Clubman...sometimes forgotten in the wagon talk, IMO.

e30cabrio

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FWD chassis.

oonowindoo

For some reason, i cannot upload pictures right now.. Gallary is on the bottom of the link below...

But i just saw the 2021 Subaru Levorg (Legacy????) STi pictures...

That audi styled visual cockpit and red interior is tits...
if the rumor is correct that it has 400hp..

That thing will be a bargain at 40kish...

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-ne...-ar189333.html

oonowindoo

RPhilMan1

Damn I don't mind that look at all.

oonowindoo

The grill is less offensive on that car.... I wonder if the grill on the M cars are interchangeable with the M440i .....

Yumcha

mrmako

So looking at the Levorg website (in Japan), it appears they are selling this as an STI Sport EX. This means some nice accented trim, better suspension, but only ~237HP. Not a barn burner by any stretch. The same motor that is in the normal Levorg. We'll have to wait and see what comes out later on.

Levorg STI Webpage

And here's more information from down under that is a lot closer to accurate. Some sites are saying 400HP. Subaru is not making a WRX killer. Won't happen.

ForceGT Subaru Levorg Information

Yumcha

Yumcha

A6 Avant...

civicdrivr

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Wish we got that instead of the Allroad

mrmako

I think the Clubman falls into the same category as the new A3. Almost a wagon. Has a small rear window, but real close to a hatchback.

00TL-P3.2

2021 Audi RS6 Avant RS Tribure Edition
@TylerT Swap one Nogaro for another

Yumcha

Meanwhile, BMW decides to be inclusive and cater to "ugly" with their inbound performance wagon.

TylerT

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Me: "So honey ... I could consolidate the wagon and the S4 and buy one car ..."
Her: "That sounds like a great idea .. we have too many cars as it is ..."
Me: "I think you'd really like it ... but, there's a few tiny drawbacks.."
Her: "Such as?"
Me: "Well, it's about the price of a house in Indiana ... and it would depreciate a small fortune over the years ... but, it's super cool and it gets rid of one car! And it's Nogaro blue!"
Her: " ..........."
Me: " "

00TL-P3.2

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fiatlux

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the spy video of the Taycan wagon at the ring

When I'm old and impotent, just show me a picture of this car in Carrera White.

Yumcha

MTM customizes the RS6...

mrmako

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CCColtsicehockey

Full size shots found here https://cartunesatlanta.com/2020/06/...sport-turismo/

Yumcha

AC Schnitzer Touring...

SuperTrooper169

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