http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.08/carkey.html

 

Scary.

 

No wai!!11!!!1!!

 

I'm surprised!!!

 

^^You're not surprised that people's insurance claims are being denied over this nonsense? I don't see the sarcasm in that. Our other vehicle is an Expedition so I'm either very secure with both ttese vehicles or not safe at all. I'd never heard of teh emeergency brake procedure. The red text indicates that all this is common knowledge. Is it?

 

starting a honda without transponder with a series of pulls and pumps of the parking brake? now thats weird and scary...

anyone have any info on whether that is true or not? an other source?

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4265482/
Same guy from the Wired article, different pub.

 

Im guessing if he could start the car using that method of doing a few pumps and pulls of the parking brake added with a few twists with the key, then that means the thief that took his car had access to a key.

Even doing the pumping and pulling of the parking brake, the thief still would have needed a key (considering that in the article, he stated that the steering column and the ignition system wasnt damaged) so you can somewhat assume if none of that was damaged, then the thief had access to a key. And if its true, that the thief used that technique to steal the car, then it means that he/she would have needed a key as well, for the process to work.

Sorta seems like an inside job.

(Whoever stole his car knew of him or whatever)

 

Look what I found today:
http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=2891
Most Stolen Vehicles of 2004
Source: CCC Information Services Inc.
1. 1999 Acura Integra
2. 2002 BMW M Roadster
3. 1998 Acura Integra
4. 1991 GMC V2500
5. 2002 Audi S4
6. 1996 Acura Integra
7. 1995 Acura Integra
8. 2004 Mercury Marauder
9. 1997 Acura Integra
10. 1992 Mercedes-Benz 600
11. 2001 Acura Integra
12. 1989 Chevrolet R25
13. 1993 Cadillac Fleetwood
14. 1994 Acura Integra
15. 1996 Lexus GS
16. 2000 Acura Integra
17. 1999 Mercedes-Benz CL
18. 1996 Lexus SC
19. 2004 Cadillac Escalade
20. 1996 BMW 750
21. 1998 Land Rover Range
22. 1994 Audi Cabriolet
23. 2001 BMW M Roadster
24. 2003 Cadillac Escalade
25. 2000 Honda Civic

 

i always knew the intergra was up there, 2000 and on they started adding transponders, thus the drop...

 

Damn!!

 

The integras are not suprising at all. Look at the tuner market, they are riddled with tegs. So people steal them for parts because they can sell the parts at such a high premium.

The problem is is that thieves are ALWAYS one step ahead of car manufacturers. If someone wants a car bad enough, they will get it. GOne in 60 seconds is a good example of that. I know the movie is fictional, but the ways of stealing the cars, im sure is pretty accurate.

 

Just give a VIN to a dealer and say you lost your keys... now you have a theft proof car.!

http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dyn...28/detail.html

 

Plus they had to get the VIN and call it in to get the unique override code. That all seems like "an awful lot of footwork for a Pantera- and nicotine-fueled joyride."

 

I can't think of anything at the moment that is theft proof...

 

No ones gonna steal my x's virginity

I've owned a honda and an acura and this is scary. We need more info though. If this is really true, it's hard to believe that we are just hearing about it.

 

That is one list Acura should try to get its name off of...

 

This gives you the who what why where

Ricers take a hard look at the tsx, don't know what they are lookin for, certainly not the wheels and tires

Among Most-Stolen: Small Cars, For Parts
By TOM KRISHER Associated Press August 2 2006

DETROIT -- Small cars that can be chopped into parts and sold for use by street racers dominated the list of the most-stolen autos in the United States last year, but high-priced cars and expensive sport utility vehicles also ranked high, according to a report released Tuesday.

Leading the way was the 2001 BMW M-Series Roadster, which was stolen at a rate of one for every 200 on the road, according to the Chicago-based CCC Information Services Inc., an industry group that tracks theft and vehicle damage.

Six of the top 10 most-stolen cars were models of the Acura Integra, which has a powerful engine that easily can be swapped into a lighter Honda Civic, making it a quick street racer, said Jeanene O'Brien, who analyzes the data for CCC.

The Acura models in the top 10 are from the mid-to-late 1990s through 2001. O'Brien said the 2004 and 2005 Suzuki Aerio, another small car with a powerful engine, appeared in the No. 11 and 12 slots almost from nowhere.

"That's where you see the whole tuner illegal street racing thing coming out," she said. "We saw a big spike in it last year. There's been further movement this year."

Such thefts are mainly in coastal states where illegal street racing is more popular, O'Brien said. The resale value of the parts is often far more than the value of the car as a whole, she said.

Thieves are grinding serial numbers off the Acura's double-overhead-cam engines and dropping them into Hondas, said Lou Koven, a detective with the Los Angeles Police Department's commercial auto theft division.

The racers run their cars hard until the parts fail, then steal Acuras for replacement parts, Koven said.

"They're easy to steal, they're plentiful, and it's a lot cheaper than going out and buying the parts," he said.

Most parts don't have serial numbers and can't be traced, he said.

The Integra was replaced by the RSX in the 2002 model year, but that model does not show up in the top 25.

Acura realized the theft problem and built more deterrent systems into the RSX, said Mike Spencer, an Acura spokesman. The RSX will not start without the key, which has a computer chip in it that the ignition system must recognize, Spencer said.

 

phffft i never believed that hype that if you have a transponder that your car cant be turned on, pretty much its just a radio code thats sent to an imobilizer and if you have the right equipment you can replicate that code thats sent and bam! cars started, nothing fancy about it at all. i remember my friend linking me an article where some guys at MIT recently made a type of device using a bunch of computer parts and was able to disable/bypass cars transponder/immobilizer systems because the type of technology car companies used was old and based off texas instruments.. i cant find the article thou

 

I read that too, but firstly those MIT guys used a device that they made to bypass the cars immobilizer by using 'fixed codes'. And also they had information about the types of codes to use. However, that device they used would not work with the types of transponders that use a 'rolling code'. Because those codes change each time you go and start the car, thus those MIT guys wouldnt be able to bypass it with their device, because the codes would always change everytime (in that artcile above, it stated rolling code immoblizers have around 4 billion variations of different codes), so they would not be able to replicate the correct code, so as to allow them to bypass the immoblizer and to start the car.

 

anyone got any opinions on any of the new clifford alarms? i need to get one, and i had a clifford with anti-hijack on my old 99 Civic SI, and i dont think anyone ever fucked with that car.

Im thinking theres always ways to jack a car even with an alarm, but has anyone ever heard of a car being stolen with the clifford anti-car jack, i mean short of having them tow the fucking thing.

post up i need to buy an alarm..