Nitrogen is a hogwash. You will NEVER see any real data because it is impossible! However, it will bring the in uneducated to buy tires and have the oil changed. PV=NRT Do the high school gas equations!

 

What's impossible about it? To measure the improvements of using N instead of O2?

If that is what you are referring to, you are partly correct.

However, like the facts have said,

using Nitrogen helps prevent the formation of condensation on the inside of a tire. In very cold climates I can see this as a benefit if you ask me.

I really don't know how much it would help people here in so cal, but if it's free at costco, why not? what do you have to lose?

 

Tell that to all the race cars running nitrogen

 

 

You wheels are NEVER going to suffer in any way do to nonexistant condensation. It may be more than they teach in HS but not in Engineering School/Real world experience with material and processes. So when you really know you will know that is total hogwash. Sure if is available and you need to pressurize your tires fine. Just don't expect ANY measurable difference. Sure keep your tires pressurized but the bottom line is it not worth one penny or one minute more.

 

If you NASCAR fine, otherwise especially low profile tires are laughable.

 

Who is this chick?

 

again, tell that to all the race cars that are using nitrogen, specifically the ones in SCCA, SWC, JGTC etc that all run low profile tires

Also tell it to all the guys running it who are monitering their tire temps. Ask them what differences they are seeing.


It may be moot to some, but it is proven and effective.

 

You get those cool green valve stem caps

 

Clearly, not for anything driving up to Jiffy lube or Costco. I'm just trying to educate, don't shoot the messenger. Trying to save guys from wasting time and money.

 

Fine you don't think there isn't ANY condensation in the tire in severe cold weather. I guess the moisture in the tire from the air is free from all gas laws because it's in the tire, and that moisture in a tire doesn't freeze unlike the rest of the water in the world?

It may be small amounts, but those small amounts over a long period of time is what this is aiming to help. it may be miniscule, but hell, they're are trying to help people improve on gas mileage and tire wear.

In addition you think there's no measurable amount of data between using o2 instead of N in your tires even though there IS known differences in how much the two gases expand? Hell just driving down the street increases the tire pressure in your tires. hence why they always say to check your tire pressure before you start driving to ensure the air isn't heated up because you won't be getting accurate readings.

Why don't you forward your comments to the flight mechanics, the race car mechanics and others using nitrogen and see what they say.

I haven't used Nitrogen in my car even though I had heard about it because 1) I didn't know it was readily avialable at costco and 2) i wasn't aware of it's improvements and was skeptical at first. But from hearing about it from so many people that it can benefit I may give it a try.

What do I have to lose, it's FREE at costco.

 

what does going to jiffy lube or costco have ANYTHING to do with it?

regardless of what kinda car you drive, rubber is rubber. the point of using nitrogen is improved mileage and better wear on your tires because they don't expand and contract as much.

and what messenging service are you working for anyways? because you seem to be more than you are delivering a message.

 

Oh and forgot to mention,

for people that do a lot of driving whether it's long distances for work or whatever, I really think using N can help those people too. even if it's just a little help.

 

Don't need to: 2 Graduate degrees and just design,test and perform failure analysis on nitrogen fluid power components for the F18 E/F and numerous other HIGH performance systems.

 

Well, I won't doubt your degree or experience because I don't know you.

But like many other technologies or methodologys, they start in the high tech market and trickle down to the consumer market. Hell I should know, I work for JPL and have seen a lot of the spinoffs that came from doing research for components to be used in space.

regardless of how miniscule you think the performance benefit is, the benefit of using N in consumer cars isn't seen overnight which everyone knows. it's seen in the long haul over the life of the tires.

to each their own.

 

Does Jiffy Lube offer nitrogen?

 

Honestly? I'm a car nut, have my own compressor but even I don't check my pressure often enough. This way I could check the tires twice a year, right?

 

recent story

http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=41208

 

I just saw some Jeep dealer offering nitrogen for $30 instead of the free air. This girl is pretty much right on. The only advantage to nitrogen filling is lack of water condensation in the winter. However, if you fill your tires in the winter or have access to low humidity air there will be no difference. N2 will not leak less slowly than O2. Or argon, chlorine, xenon, or even laughing gas. PV = a constant regardless of the gas.

This is similar to the effect of breathing pure oxygen on the sidelines of a football game. There is enough oxygen in air to saturate your lungs upon breathing, so increasing the dose from 20-100% is overkill. It's all in the head.

 

My Acura dealer has sent me little service reminder slips advertising they have nitrogen for something like $60, IIRC.

That's ridiculous. I understand that it probably has benefits, but I'm not paying for it. I don't have a Costco membership and I doubt I'll start servicing my tires there.

When I get new tires, if the shop has a machine and fills them for free, cool, otherwise, not worrying about it.

 

This reminds me of the good year tire commercial on youtube.com. lol

 

i would never pay $30 for air. i get it for free from my POS compressor/vacuum that i got 2 christmas ago and HESS down the block from me wich also has a free air pump.

 

I got nitrogen put in my tires and I can say that it did make an improvement in my tire pressure. I paid for it, but I don't have to pay for any refills for as long as I own my car.

We have had an array of temperatures in Central Texas and on and off rain for the last few months and I can tell you (from previous experience) my tires have never held their tire pressure so well.

For all of the science buffs.... you don't have to be a meteorologist to know which way the wind is blowing.

 

I'm going to be taking my car to my friend to fill at least one of my cars to see what it's all about.It would be for free, so I have nothing to lose, really. My friend put Nitrogen in the tires of my father's car, and my father is saying he is getting a little better fuel economy because of the Nitrogen. My friend gave me a bunch of reasons why it's better to use it, but among some mentioned in this post, one more reason is that it's a LIGHTER kind of gas, so it reduces some of the weight, helping the economy, ride, handling and general feel. But then again, wtf do I know..

 

"Nitrogen in tires is becoming a popular replacement for standard air. Nitrogen is all around us... the air we breathe is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and the rest is small amounts of other gasses. When it comes to tire inflation, nitrogen has many advantages over oxygen. With nitrogen tire inflation, improvements can be noted in a vehicle's handling, fuel efficiency and tire life through better tire pressure retention, improved fuel economy and cooler running tire temperatures. Here at the Get Nitrogen Institute our goal is to provide consumers, over-the-road truckers, fleet managers and others information about the benefits of using nitrogen in tires."

http://getnitrogen.org/