Sorry if repost... but before jumping to g/z.. how is 'New Nissans' reliability if driven pretty hard once in a while?? Personally, and to assess ANY manufacturer.. I look/listen to their products 5-10 years down the road... with normal maintenance. Sure Gosn or whatever Nissan's new CEO is is cutting parts, platforms and people left and right and infinity's new 'skin' is impressive, but what about the drivetrain, durability, longivity?
To give examples... I compared a few 10 year old integras to the 10 year old z - with similarly kept maintenance - the engine notes weren't the same... Integra felt 'tighter' still... Bias?? maybe... but old Sentra's, Ultima's and the Maximas with many parts cut for 'savings' sounded like crap after 7-10 years in operation.
Also, a good 'test' if you even see them still on the roads...

Yeah, Honda went to hell quality wise, but what about Nissan's overall reliability through the years? My buddie's 91'Z had a messed up ABS from day 1... after 5 tries and 5 replacements of modules, sensors, whatever they still couldn't fix it. The dealer was always helpful though.. and cordial, so most definitely they got honda beat in that respect, even back then...

 

most un-scientific comparison ever. the 91 integra i just sold sounded like a lawn mower and was leaking this/that/the other from every orafice. take your head out of your ass.

 

Wow... Strange post... Just because you know someone that had problems doesn't mean all Nissans are crap. Each car has it's problems. Overall, my parents have had a number of Nissan's in the past with little to no problems. They currently have a 99 Maxima which has never seen the shop. My 03 Accord has been in the shop twice already.

Does that mean Honda < Nissan? No... Can't compare based on one person

 

zeroday, I haven't asked what kind of test this was, either share your thoughts on the direct question asked, or do not waste everyone's time nor thread.
Thanks for your instructions re. my head & ass - I'll take your 'expertize' under advisement

 

Thanks for your feedback, I was just curious, since I do not believe I've seen Nissan's reliability disscussed - that is all. As for 10 years ago - Honda had better realiability then Nissan's... All I was asking what is everyone experiencing with 'newer' Nissans, that is all - no need to get defenseful, on the contrary, please share your experiences.. good and bad, but of NISSAN.. we know enough about Honda... .

 

point me to a direct question that i can answer...or for that matter any substantive data you've provided that could be used to formulate a conclusion. a worthless post gets a worthless reply. sorry. tired of people stirring the nissan vs honda pot. threads like this never go anywhere and they are almost always irritating to acl members that happen to be owners of nissans.

 

Zeroday - let me rephrase. What are you guys experiences with Nissan dealers, and newer product in general, good and bad. This post was not geared towards nissan vs. honda comparison, but rather to understand if there are valid enough reasons from experience of others before switching [to Nissan].

 

So maybe your post should have read " Please share your past experiences with nissan vehicles. I'm curious how their past reliability might stack up against honda."

instead of all that other horse shit.

 

That's why you have 4600 and I 46 posts..., still you probably had a hard day at work - I STAND behind my observations that Nissan built CRAP 10 years ago. These are MY observations, which I had many reasons to believe, and which I am entitled to. I also am observing that Honda's quality had deteriorated and FAST last few years...
Point taken, but then you should learn to share something of value, else it is still a horse manure one way or the other.

 

why don't you ask zapata how reliable his 1991 stanza he sold me was....car had 166k miles on it and when i sold it it was still running strong and not burning any oil....but of course this proves nothing as this was just one car. my point is your observations that led you to your conclusion that nissan has been bulding crap for 10 years are misguided because they are formed from a small sampling of nissan cars that you or others you know have had experience with. That's like me meeting a group of black people i didnt like and saying that all blacks must be assholes. produce statistics from reputable sources and then we'll talk.

you're entitled to do whatever you want, and i am entitled to call you on it if i think its bs.

 

Sorry but you are not entirely accurate. The 1996-1997 Maximas were considered more reliable than their counterparts (Accord, Camry) says JD Powers and MSN.com. My 96 Maxima doesn't even rattle yet with over 100,000 hard miles on it (driven cross country 4 times and So-Cal traffic most of its life). In fact, I have been living in Indiana for the last 2 years and the only things I've replaced here were the o2 sensors. My mom's Camry (95) has had much more trouble than my Max.

If you are looking at Infiniti, it has been second only to Lexus in initial quality and reliability according to JD Powers. It is also rated extremely high in consumer reports. Also, Infiinti has the best customer service out of any brand for the last 2 years. If you're looking at the G35, look at it this way. The VQ is over 10 years old and has been bullet proof throughout its history. The auto tranny is taken directly from the Q45 (340hp) and can easily take the power rating of the G. I'd say the car was designed to be run hard

 

it totally depends on the car and owner. My cousin has a 92 Maxima that still rides very well today, his wife has an 87 accord that rides very well also. Its all on how the car is maintained.

 

I think you have to go back prior to 1989 for Nissan's crap. At that time Toyota was making the best stuff. Honda was pretty good as well. The pre-1989 Maximas were problem prone but from then on Nissan has been pretty good. Now Honda=Nissan=Toyota and Mits is the one lagging. I had a few of each and while based on just a few examples and friend's that's how I draw my conclusion. My ...change please.

 

Even as a non-Nissan fan, I must say that your posts really sound like your trolling rather then asking a reasonable question.
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That being said, your concept of looking at cars from 10 years ago to make comparisons on new vehicles doesn't entirely make sense. Sure you can rate customer service this way which is important in and of itself, but each automobile platform and model year will have it's own unique set of issues. I think there are few manufacturer's around that can boast decades of highly rated, trouble free cars. All of the major manufacturers have had good years and bad years, good models and bad models, as well as trouble free cars and trouble-full cars.

 

Nissans reliability has always been good. Same goes for Honda and Toyota. They are all about the same in reliability. Honda use to be better, but now there average with the rest of the group. I would put Toyota on the top of the 3 though and Nissan and Honda tied.

Nissan makes some of the strongest most reliable engines, and they can take the abuse.

 

FYI, there are more older nissans still driving than Hondas. Nissan built reliable cars back then and still do now.

Shoot, we have a friend in the family that has over 400k on a Nissan Hardbody Pickup, and it has only had minor stuff like oil changes, and maintenance stuff. Nothing ever went wrong with it yet per the owner.

 

My dad has a 98 Infiniti Q45t. It has over 100,000 miles on it and runs like the day he brought it . If there was ever a problem (and i don't think there have been any..especially any major ones) it was fixed. The dealer is amazing. Infiniti, may have been coughing in the vehicle dept in the past few years but there customer service was always top notch. As a matter of fact i think in consumer reports they were rated higher than Lexus. I know it was always between those two.

 

reason for that might be the low resale value of nissans compare to honda, and that ppl tend to buy used nissan over hondas

 

Nissans have sucked shit for a long time. Toyota is notably the best so far as reliability and Honda coming in 2nd. Nissan was flopping around on its side for a while b/c they couldn't sell jack shit. Their new revamp with the VQ motor with all those HP gains over their old models is the only reason they're not out of business. As for new Nissans, I would suppose that they have gotten better over they years. Still, on a 200K test I'd put my money on a Toyota over a Nissan anyday.

 

the nissan 350z beat the honda s2000 on resale value according to ALG...even won an award as having the best resale of any sports car.

 

g35 also has a very high resale:
https://www.kiplinger.com/magazine/a...4/02/cars.html

 

As a proud of owner of Nissan and Acura both past and present. i would have to say that I have had better luck w/ Nissans. Example.... Before I bought my then new '02 CL-S I drove a '89 Nissan 240SX used for 2grand. The SX had over 100,000 miles before I got it and the 3 years I had it I must have logged close to that much. I don't know how the car was broken in or anything like that but the only problem I had was needing to rebuild an engine because of a cracked head gasket 200,000 + miles into the life of the car. I never once had a problem w/ anything else, even clutch. Now to my present car, an brand new '02 Acura which I broke in, 2 trannies w/i 3 years. Another example for those who don't want just one. My father in-law has a '90 maxima, no problems except A/C after 13 years of service. This car was driven hard in it's early days. My wife has a '97 civic that has gone through A/C and exhaust manifold, no to mention countless other things. I have always driven Nissans until this CL-S and would have to lean towards Nissan in terms of reliability.

 

Well not all Nissans have a low resale value. They just have more discounts. Also the G35 has the highest resale value over any Honda product right now.

 

LOL, the VQ has been around for 10 yrs, and made more hp than any Honda car in its class for the whole TIME. It also performed better.

Nissan formerly known as DATSUN has been around for a very long time, and has always been very reliable.

 

I have never ever been on the right side of a car at the end of its usefulness. As soon as Kiplinger finds out that I own one, they'll downgrade it!

 

Definately when looking for used cars, Nissan is on the top of my list, great price, great car.

 

Bought my wife a new Murano about 8 months ago...so far it has been great. The Murano is very well equipped and seems to be very reliable so far...I guess only time will tell, but I think that Nissan has made some good moves toward reliablity and comfort over the last couple of years...

Good luck

 

The only common issue I know of in 10 year old Nissans is with the V6's cracking exhaust manifolds (always the rearmost one). You see this a lot with maxima's and the Quest minivan. Sounds like loose valves. I know 3 people afflicted by this personally and constantly hear them go by on the street. Another freind put 160k on an 88 Maxima with no problems at all (even had the original clutch)!

I think the new interiors are not quite the level of fit and finish of a Honda but otherwise, I wouldnt hesitate buying a Nissan product.

 

I realize the VQ has been around a long time. However, only recently has it produced so much power and been used on nearly all their cars. Datsun/Nissan has not always been very reliable as you say. That is part of the reason why they and Mazda got their asses whooped in the early 90s so far as sales. If you keep selling people junk, eventually they'll stop buying from you.

 

In the 90's it wasn't Nissan's quality or reliability that hurt them insomuch as it was their high prices, boring design and lack of new or interesting models.

 

You are wrong with no backup. The post below yours is correct. They had great sales, and reliable cars. But obviously you never owned a Nissan product. Datsun is one of the most reliable cars to have. Look at all the old 240,280zs, 240sx, se-rs, sentras, running around that are older than MOST HONDAS.

 

In the early 90s, Nissan's sales started slipping. By the mid 90s, they were in trouble. Reliabiilty throughout the 90s were great. Some of their cars like the Maxima were much better than the Accord and Camry (it won Motortrend Import car of the year). By the late 90s, Nissan was in dire financial straights and Renault bought 26% controlling share. Carlos Ghosn took over and within 4 years, completely turned it around. In that time, he erased a $9 billion debt and made Nissan profitable (relentlessly cutting costs, jobs, and interior quality ). Now, Nissan is the SECOND most profitable car manufacturer (behind Toyota) and the most profitable by margin.