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Old 07-03-2005, 11:00 PM
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New car advice.....

My cousin is looking for a new car.and so far we have come up with:

2005 Acura Rsx Type S
2006 Mistubishi eclipse GT
2005 Toyota Celica GT (dont know if 2006 is out or if it looks the same as 05)
2005 Acura Tsx (looks nice but yea its not fast but still consider)

we can't think of any other cars.... Manual and leather seats with 27k the limit to spend and pretty fast..

Maybe you guys have any other suggestions ....within that price range...and feedback welcome...He mostly consider coupe but wouldn't mind a 4 door as well..

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Old 07-03-2005, 11:10 PM
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If your looking for speed I would take the TSX off your list, while it can be made fast with aftermarket parts, its not fast for $27k- I own one, trust me.

I would add the Impreza WRX to your list and if you don't HAVE to have leather a SRT4- if you don't mind a year or two old car that happens to be a convertible I would check out a preowned S2000.

I also think of the Celica and the Eclipse are more of "chick" cars, something worth considering.
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The Eclipse is a porker. It won't be a very sporty drive and the torque steer will make the TL look like it doesn't have any.

The Celica is going to be killed soon by Toyota. Might not be the greatest idea to get one, although you should be able to get a good deal on the clearouts.

^^Ditto for the RSX Type-S

You never said it had to be very fast. I'd describe the TSX as more "zippy" than anything. Since you're getting it in a manual it won't be slow, but it won't be fast either.

But if he is considering something like the Eclipse...the Accord EX-V6 6MT coupe might also be a consideration. But it suffers from the same difficulties as the Eclipse: a somewhat mushy suspension and a little bit of torque steer, but those are in lesser doses than the Eclipse (and I think the Honda manual is better). You should be able to pick up a 2005 for the price you want on clearance I think.
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also i forget to mention is possibly the G35c used.... 04.. any thought on the 04 used.. He mostly doesnt like to buy used cars simply because well for 1 ts used and dont know how it was handled. anybody ever bought a used G35c? what was your experience..any problems??? hows the car holding up if it has 30k miles on it???
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Originally Posted by youngTL
The Eclipse is a porker. It won't be a very sporty drive and the torque steer will make the TL look like it doesn't have any.

The Celica is going to be killed soon by Toyota. Might not be the greatest idea to get one, although you should be able to get a good deal on the clearouts.

^^Ditto for the RSX Type-S

You never said it had to be very fast. I'd describe the TSX as more "zippy" than anything. Since you're getting it in a manual it won't be slow, but it won't be fast either.

But if he is considering something like the Eclipse...the Accord EX-V6 6MT coupe might also be a consideration. But it suffers from the same difficulties as the Eclipse: a somewhat mushy suspension and a little bit of torque steer, but those are in lesser doses than the Eclipse (and I think the Honda manual is better). You should be able to pick up a 2005 for the price you want on clearance I think.
yea i forgot about the accord... thanks for reminding me...I'll let him look at that...
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Given the choice of a G35c w/30k and a new TSX that would be a no brainer. I compared the two when I bought my TSX and I left unimpressed with the G35- fit and finish and quality of materials used through out left a lot to be desired. Some G35 owners are experiencing no problems at all, other's are having weird electrical problems. The 05's address some of the interior short comings, but still falls short. In other words it wouldn't be on my list, but that's me.

With what Hondata has shown possible with the K24 engine, if your into moding it at all you'll be pleased. For less then the difference of what a TL costs you can make a TSX faster in a better handling car that gets better fuel economy.
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Originally Posted by pimpinTL02
yea i forgot about the accord... thanks for reminding me...I'll let him look at that...
It's got less horsepower than the Eclipse but it's got less weight to pull too.

Eclipse:
3560lbs
262hp
260lb-ft torque
18/27mpg - city/hwy
car and driver 0-60 -> 6.1s, 1/4mi -> 14.5s@100mph

Accord($26950):
3285lbs
240hp
212ft-lbs torque
21mpg/30mpg - city/hwy
car and driver 0-60 -> 5.9s, 1/4mi ->14.5s@98mph

So you can see the performance is similar. Except that the Accord will get better fuel economy doing it. (and a little harder to launch due to less torque)
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Here are the links to the articles above since it's a to post data without backing it up:

Accord: http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

Eclipse: http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=9634

And subjectively, I think Accord interior > Eclipse interior
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Originally Posted by Tireguy
Given the choice of a G35c w/30k and a new TSX that would be a no brainer. I compared the two when I bought my TSX and I left unimpressed with the G35- fit and finish and quality of materials used through out left a lot to be desired. Some G35 owners are experiencing no problems at all, other's are having weird electrical problems. The 05's address some of the interior short comings, but still falls short. In other words it wouldn't be on my list, but that's me.

With what Hondata has shown possible with the K24 engine, if your into moding it at all you'll be pleased. For less then the difference of what a TL costs you can make a TSX faster in a better handling car that gets better fuel economy.
whats the k24 engine? from what car..?
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Originally Posted by pimpinTL02
whats the k24 engine? from what car..?
That's the engine code for the TSX engine and the Accord 4 cylinder engine (although the TSX is tuned differently to provide more power).
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Originally Posted by youngTL
The Eclipse is a porker. It won't be a very sporty drive and the torque steer will make the TL look like it doesn't have any.

The Celica is going to be killed soon by Toyota. Might not be the greatest idea to get one, although you should be able to get a good deal on the clearouts.

^^Ditto for the RSX Type-S


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2005 is the last year for the celica..so look for a good deal
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accord V6s are HOT....my boy has one the interior is immaculate with black leather, and its got some decent heat under the hood, much faster than rsx or celicas or anything on your list

he got his for like 26 brand new or something like that
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Evo Rs. All the listed cars are slow.
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Out of those listed, I go with the acuras or the toyota...

There are rumors of the RSX being discontinued (and with the new Civic SI being so close in price and performace, I can see why), so if your friend buys the RSX he might get hit with the depreciation on a discontinued model (I own a CLS, so I've gone thru this).

I actually looked at the RSX and Celica GT before I bought my CLS. I decided that while they were fun little cars, that I want something a little bigger.

If I was to buy today (and wasn't hung up with getting back into a RWD car), I'd look at the TSX... Best bang for the buck in it's class.

I will never recomend a Mitsubishi. I've just never liked them (and I don't really have a good reason why). Maybe because the eclipse is a girls car ??
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Mustang GT or GTO if he wants speed in that price range

If not one of the above then my vote goes to the RSX
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Originally Posted by g35doc
Evo Rs. All the listed cars are slow.
Reading owns you. First of all, the limit was 27k. Second, leather interior was a requirement. Thank you and have a nice day.
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350z Starting @ 26,800
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98 supra twin turbo can be had if you look hard enough for less than 27k with about 50k miles. Now that's a hot car!
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I like the Accord V6 coupe for that price. A great mix of performance and luxury.
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Reading owns you. First of all, the limit was 27k. Second, leather interior was a requirement. Thank you and have a nice day.
You're right no leather but the EVO RS can be bought for 27k with minimal haggling.
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saab 9-2x aero! All the greatness of a wrx (albeit a wagon) combined with luxury for under $20k! With the extra $7k, it will be a beast!
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GTO!!!!!!!!

I LOVE MINE! And it gets a lot more looks than everyone thinks!
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A 4 door retains its value better. I will choose the TSX.
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I don't miss the power of my CL Type S w/ the TSX. The zip and go-kart factor makes TSX more fun to drive.

Has to be 6M though, can't imagine driving the auto.
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TSX is fast enough to me
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not interested in 2 seaters... and supra is a nice ride but its old.... we are looking for a car that would be a good buy for about 6 years...
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You can get the Subaru Legacy GT for around $26k now. I'd definitely get that over anything you've listed.
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