dave_ramkumar

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^you guys are all right, if i dont get a chance to go and buy it personally , i wont get it anymore

Costco

It was tongue in cheek. Then again if you hadn't posted this thread, some of us might not have caught it.

The basic rule of "If it sounds too good to be true, then it is" applies universally... and yeah, there's no way I would buy something if I couldn't check it out personally or have someone very knowledgeable and that I knew personally and trusted to look at the car.

dave_ramkumar

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i contacted 2 of our mods ,asking if the can check it out for me, im awiting replies from both of them, they are both local to the area the car is suposedly located and if they confrim everything is ok then ill take it, if not then ill just leave it as is and get my money back


and today im gona call joe and ask him if its ok if i have someone come and look at it as the dealership, and just see what is reaction is towards it

synth19

I wish I could check out the car for you, but unfortunately I won't have any free time for at least two weeks. If Crazy Sellout can't go, post in the Chicago subforum. I'm sure there is someone closer to Naperville then both of us.

I know for sure that Chris Hill's dad (Joe Hill) does indeed wholesale cars. Not saying that this is a scam, but it's more or less a "buyer beware" type of deal. With their shady past and present, you need to double/triple check everything.


I think you have learned a lesson, but never wire any sort of money to anyone. There are others ways you can reassure your legitimacy to the seller. Purchasing a car "site unseen" is pretty crazy. I actually did the same thing with my NSX but I had an independent Acura dealership check the car out and fax me the report. There are other things you can do to protect yourself and threads that dish helpful hints when buying an out-of-state car.

dave_ramkumar

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^thx for the adivce , im just counting on crazy now , if he cant do it then ill just forget it

synth19

If you haven't arranged this, you should DEFINITELY ask the seller if he would be willing to bring the car to an independent BMW dealer for a pre-purchase inspection. You would be required to pay the bill (might be $100-$300), but a small price to pay and reassurance that the car is fine.

dave_ramkumar

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TERMS - upon the sale of the car I will require a 30% deposit within 48 hours with the balance due within 7 days. I will not accept bids by EBAYERS with -0- or negative feedback unless I am contacted first. I can arrange a pre-inspection of the car if needed and I can help you to arrange for final transport/shipping if needed and at Buyer cost. The car is sold with the remaining BMW Warranty.


he said on the ebay listing that he would, so ill ask him today

dave_ramkumar

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Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 2008 BMW M3 (WBSWD93518PY42352) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems, and disqualifies the vehicle for AutoCheck Buyback Protection. Check the Vehicle Use and EventCheck for reported accidents that can affect vehicle safety and value.

0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked:
No abandoned title record
No damaged title or major damage incident record
No fire damaged title record
No grey market title record
No hail damage title record
No insurance loss title or probable total loss record
No junk or scrapped title record
No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
No odometer problem title record
No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
No salvage title or salvage auction record
No water damaged title record
No NHTSA crash test record
No frame/unibody damage record
No recycling facility record

Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2008 BMW M3 (WBSWD93518PY42352) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage.

0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported
5 09/08/2008
4,602 11/20/2009
Vehicle Use and EventCheck
Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional vehicle uses or events reported to AutoCheck for this 2008 BMW M3 (WBSWD93518PY42352). This includes reported vehicle uses such as rental or lease, and events such as whether the vehicle has been reported to have had a loan/lien or a duplicate title issued. Other events show if the vehicle has a reported accident and how many calculated accidents or if it has been reported stolen or repossessed. It is recommended to have pre-owned vehicles inspected by a third party prior to purchase.

1 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked:
Fleet, rental and/or lease use record(s)
No taxi use record
No police use record
No government use record
No livery use record
No driver education record
0 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked:
No accident record reported through accident data sources
No corrected title record
No duplicate title record
No emission/safety inspection record
No loan/lien record
No fire damage incident record
No repossessed record
No theft record
No storm area registration/title record
Full History
Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.

Report Run Date 2010-04-06 09:56:20.991 EDT

Vehicle: 2008 BMW M3 (WBSWD93518PY42352)

Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details
09/08/2008 GA
5
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:3888082520001)(Leased Vehicle)(Lien Reported)
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL(Leased Vehicle)
01/08/2009 ALPHARETTA, GA
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL(Leased Vehicle)
10/14/2009 BARRINGTON, IL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
11/20/2009 BARRINGTON, IL
4,602
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:X9324674735)


the car fax looks clean

dave_ramkumar

iTrader: (5)

what is the safest way i can pay for this and if things dont work out, that ill be able to have proof i paid

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

IMHO, I would take that 28 LARGE and invest.
Make it work for YOU!

paz840

iTrader: (2)

^We've already beaten this horse

synth19

This is what I did which worked out great. Seller had an account with a "national bank" (a bank with branches in various cities). I created an account with this bank and made a deposit. I flew to the seller's city and he picked me up from the airport. We then went to check out the car. Once I did my inspection, we drove to the bank. We met with a bank manager, explained the situation and we then transferred the money to the seller's account. Title was exchanged and my Bill of sale was notarized and signed off by the bank manager. He gave me the title and other documents on the spot. He then dropped me off @ my new car and I drove home.


This doesn't mean anything.




In today's day and age this is ridiculous. This is a buyer's market and these types of terms need to be negotiated. The seller just wants reassurance you are legit. There are plenty of options out there if you are patient. When sellers want money wired, large deposits, etc., I walk.

ironlung1948

Def a hot car. Love that interior!

dave_ramkumar

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ill guess ill do it this way, do they have bank of america in chicago?

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

I'll beat this horse till its a bloody pulp...
Here's another suggestion, buy a house and rent the hell out of it!

dave_ramkumar

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^lol that sounds profitable

DarkSithCL

iTrader: (1)

LOL... BOA is the 2nd largest bank in America...

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

I think what the OP needs is a lesson on how the world works and common sense.

95gt

This sounds like it will be a great life lesson for a 20 year old.

Go ahead and send the money.

dave_ramkumar

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^i was just asking cuz , the guy had some diffrent bank , i have BOA, i was just asking so i wud of told him to get BOA account too make the transaction go more smootly

i guess it was a dumb question , wish i cud take it back

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

I'm still waiting on it being a week long April Fool's Joke.

dave_ramkumar

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^ -.- ^

Crazy Bimmer

You know you can go to ANY bank you desire to get a loan. You are the customer here.

dave_ramkumar

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i know


but do you think you caan go check it out for me today?

Crazy Bimmer

Today, no.

Tomorrow maybe. But WTF, this dealer doesnt even show up in google. Does he even have a website?

dave_ramkumar

iTrader: (5)

^i check on google maps, and i see a few dealerships in the area(in the live pic), not sure which is his


thx alot , if you can go 2morrow it would be a big help, just pm me if you need any more info

Crazy Bimmer

Even if the car checks out to be fine, i still would have a hard time giving $49k to some hick dealer that doesnt even have a website or any information about them on the internet.

Or am i just being too paranoid?

dave_ramkumar

iTrader: (5)

his emails come from this domain

nacoutlet.com

but when i try to do to it, nothing comes up , how come?

DarkSithCL

iTrader: (1)

We are just givin you a hard time... ... I am laughin with you, not at you... I think it is really great that you have a mind to try to have really nice things and you actually have a means for paying for them... you are not spending all youre time trying to rip people off or some similar to that... so take our advice and hard times with a grain of salt and know that if we did not care... this would have been a very short thread.

synth19

This is pure speculation, but I have a hunch that the pics that look like his dealership are from the auction. Also, I'm 100% certain that Joe Hill does NOT own a dealership.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

Hey, I'll be your life coach! Wire me $28K and I'll show you the ropes!

DarkSithCL

iTrader: (1)

No... we are just used to dealing with a certain caliber of dealer... that's true for me too... if I had not bought my Merc from my Father in law, I would have had a hard time dropping that much cash on a car to random guy who lives on 88 acres of pine forest with his own road a mile off another random road in the middle of a tiny town in Arkansas with a population of 143 peeps... BTW... I own a home there too... LOL

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

Bad sign when Google's only hit from this is your post here.

NAC Outlet 1580 W. Ogden Avenue Suite 330. Naperville, IL 60540

This too.

Good luck.

synth19

He registered the domain through godaddy. So technically he owns the domain although he has not created the website. However, he setup the email through godaddy.

dave_ramkumar

iTrader: (5)

i really like this car, nd im glad you guys are showing me not to run into this blind, so thanks alot

i just gona make sure i take all the right steps and measures, to make sure this dosnt go south, and then ill have to regret it

thanks for all you guys who are shwoing intrest and care

dave_ramkumar

iTrader: (5)

same thing for me , when i googled it

97AcuraCL

Its beautiful man, congrats!!

Jiggy2dmax

iTrader: (1)

Buy it person would obviously be the safest way...if you really want to complete the deal, get your financing in line, fly there and drive it back.

At this point, I think that should be the only option you should be looking at....14 hour drive>losing $25k

dave_ramkumar

iTrader: (5)

^ur right and its only 120 to fly there with jetblue and i can get ait all done ina day

subinf

Flying and getting the car personally is probably the best thing to do for yourself. And who cares how much the plane tickets are after you drop that much on the car?