pimpin-tl

Looks just like the Caddy. So it can't be ugly.

Beltfed

Oh whatever.....I don't care what the last thing you were talking about.

The fact is, all three models have different HP ratings......one engine and tranny (Tahoe).

pimpin-tl

Still the point stays. Why pay $30+k more for a Caddy for nothing more than the nameplate and .1 of a liter? lol

Beltfed

In the real world, anyone that has a clue knows the Caddy pulls more $ on the used market than a Denali does. And the Denali is not that much cheaper.

The Denali has always been the bastard stepchild........nobody cares about it. Its not the cheapest (Tahoe) and has no prestige (Escalade).

So where does it fit? Answer.....no place.

pimpin-tl

No, in the real world everyone knows that Caddy has the worst resale value of any car period.

The Denali is 45k new possible cheaper with discounts. The Escalade, 70k. Yea a lot cheaper and no discounts on Caddys usually.

Beltfed

An Escalade is not $30k more than a Denali.....are you insane?

A Tahoe LTZ with a few options is almost $45k.

Beltfed

The Escalade isn't quite $70k......try is bases at just over $55k (Denali $49k). Decent options you're at $60k. Go overboard like an idiot, you're at $65k.

You can get discounts all day on the 07 Escalade.

And news flash, GM cars in general have lackluster resale values.

pimpin-tl

2007 GMC Yukon
Denali 4dr SUV AWD (6.2L 8cyl 6A)
MSRP Invoice
National Base Price (excludes destination charge)
A note about advertising fees $47,470 $43,435


2007 Cadillac Escalade
4dr SUV AWD (6.2L 8cyl 6A)
MSRP Invoice
National Base Price (excludes destination charge)
A note about advertising fees $56,775 $52,517

Okay, about 10k more. Someone here said 70k earlier and I was going by that. And still again, 10k more for nameplate. Escalade has a worse resale value still even when its 10k more.

Yumcha

But see...there's a difference. With an SUV, I'm hated. Frowned upon. Spat at. Hissed at. Cursed at. Middle-fingered at. Yelled at cuz my shoulder check nearly ran over a grandmaw driving next to me.

That, and I'll never be able to park in Chinatown. Or anywhere for that matter unless I'm visiting my Uncle Benny out in the dude ranch.




But...with a $70K sedan, which I may never have the skills to drive, at least I'm no longer a bane of society. I can park where I want; get better mileage...and have something that looks better than a clunky SUV with dishplates?





Please don't ban me.

Beltfed

I've driven my oldman's RR plenty...and have never been spat at, hissed at, cursed at, middle fingered at.

Not sure what you're doing wrong.

Its a nice rig.

Yumcha

^ Whoa...! See, I guess I should contradict myself a bit...

There are some SUVs I'd totally love to be in...and that Range Rover is indeed one of them. Escalades, Navigators, Yukons, etc. are what I was more implying...

Papa_Sean

Hey how bout one of these

srika

hey Beltfed how's the reliability on that RR.. compared to like, normal cars.

and oh yea, looks nice. I swear the interior of the '03+ RR's is just about one of the nicest places to be. Everything is so f'ing refined.

CLpower

you started off by saying tahoe.


And for one, the 403 HP 6.2L is not available in the denali; i may be mistaken 6.2L w/ 380 HP but I believe it's only available in the xl

CLpower

The escalade retail value is better then the other two. And for one, it has many more options then the other two to, so they aren't the same exact car. It's like comparing a camry to an lexus ES

CLpower

Actually, many cars have a far worse resale value then the caddy. I know my acura did, and a know a guy that lost almost $100K on an Audi S8 in 6 years.



You really need to learn more before you step into these conversations.

CLpower

I drove a 96 tahoe for two years and have spent much time in a few different navigators (drove a 01 for almost 8 months. I was never spat at, frowned at, yelled at. And never once had a hard time parking anywhere (including chinatown actually). Gas mileage wasn't bad either, avg'd around 16 which was just a tad less then my GTO, and more then the BMW my dad drives. (hell just a few less then my acura got (19))

daemonicus

ooooo $55k for cheap plastics, fake wood, good old reliable GM, shitty gas mileage and the Caddy emblem on the grille. oh ya, and dont forget finishing last to almost last overall in every SUV comparison test it's been in since it came out in '99. Whew, man, I cant wait to get $55K so I can spend it on that.

Black Tire

For pimp status...can't beat the Range Rover.

pimpin-tl

Per the website of its a DENALI period, it comes with a 6.2L. Same size as the Escalade.

pimpin-tl

Many more options? Please show us these more options. I don't see them listed.

You have already been wrong saying the Denalli didn't come with the 6.2 standard. LOL.

pimpin-tl

Prove it. I have never seen a Acura lose as bad as a GM product period. A Audi S8 lose 100k in 6 years? Seriously doubt that.

Learn more? You have been the one thats been completely wrong in this thread so far.

pimpin-tl

All around 60k of miles and good condition selected. Looks like the Audi did lose a lot. But lower Audis like the A4 and A6 hold their values much better. The Caddy still has a poor resale value compared to your ACURA or most other cars.

2002 Caddy Escalade AWD V8 Price when new $55k~ The Caddy lost $30k

Excellent
$25,610

Good
$24,165
(Selected)

Fair
$22,190


2002 Acura CL-S Price when new $29-32k The Acura lost $16645

Excellent
$15,355

Good
$14,375
(Selected)

Fair
$13,135


2002 Audi S8 AWD $85k new

Excellent
$33,355

Good
$31,525
(Selected)

Fair
$28,985

So the Audi lost about $51645

CLpower

Can you comprehend posts? First off, the Denali and the Escalade have different power ratings between the two, the motors aren't identical, and as belt mentioned earlier.. I wasn't wrong anywhere. Youwere arguing earlier about the Tahoe, which DOES NOT even have the option for the 6.2L. then when you realized you were wrong you didn't even mention it etc, you all of a sudden threw in the denali



Let me quote you just so you don't get confused; i'll put it into simple steps:


and then you reply to my

w/


Then you brought in the Denali, which I never denied came w/ the 6.2L, because it does, but FYI; you brought the denali out of left field when we were talking about the tahoe


And then you had the balls to call a 30K difference, you do your research don't ya? I don't care if you got the # from someone in this thread. get your facts straight before you post and try to act like you know it all.







fyi, there is roughly a 5-7K difference between the Denali (48-50K) and the Escalade (55K), and to me it's worth it for the front end alone. Now, go look at a fully loaded Escalade and a fully loaded Denali and tell me they are identical. I've done this matchup.






i'll sit here and while I wait for your reply. If I were you, i'd examine it really well; or even better, just not post.

pimpin-tl

Excellent
$22,285

Good
$20,970
(Selected)

Fair
$19,275

Woah, can't be.....The Denali has a better resale value.

Denali new $38-42k for that body style, and looky....it only lost. $19,715.

My point proven.

CLpower

I had a first gen, bought it new, sold it 6 years later for 4K, bought for 29K.



BTW, I assume you pulled KBB #'s if that's the case atleast here in so cal, they are totally off. Which sucks because the realistic price of all those cars is a lot lower then they list (caddy included)


How about you get off the resale value one (i'll give you a win on this) and try tackling the rest

pimpin-tl

No obviously you can't. To maximize the features for price, the Denali is the one to get. And I said that in a post a few pages ago. You obviously are ignoring that. Power ratings are meanless with GM powerplants. We all know (like the TA, Camaro, C5 vette), if its a 6.2 L or 5.7L it still puts down the same power even if they say oh it has 350 hp or 315. So the number game doesn't work. You have been completely wrong on everything you said and I have proven that. So stop being so defense and admit you were wrong. LOL I threw in the Denali because I was wrong? You can't read obviously.

All my facts have been striaght. At least I have been backing up all my claims unlike yourself. Why are you argueing? Are you a GM fanboy now that you own a Pontiac that has been discontinued?

The difference in prices have been posted. EOD. You got owned.

Sdog2012

The new escalade is sweet, got to drive a new EXT about a week ago, soo much better than the older ones, pretty much everything about them

pimpin-tl

More excuses as usual. Off huh? Got another viable source? Please post your data. We will be waiting.

CLpower

Okay, so then I was partially wrong. The shorter denali, not just the XL, come w/ the 6.2L. However they are still not the same identical motor as in the Escalade.

pimpin-tl

BTW, your GTO has lost 10k since it was bought. If you have a 2005 near 15k of miles.

CLpower

I can't believe you are now trying to compare the LS1 to the engines. Your facts have not been straight in the least, atleast I have admitted where I was mistaken.


yes, I'm not all of a sudden a Gm fanboy because I bought a discontinued pontiac It's unreal what a tool you are.

pimpin-tl

lol. Yes they are.

CLpower

Have a 2006 w/ 16k on it, I've lost some, but if that bothered me I wouldn't have bought the car. I didn't buy it for what I can sell it for 3-4 years down the road.


nice try though

CLpower

have you seen dyno's from the Escalade and the Denali to show that GM is doing the same thing they did w/ the LS1's? Nope, you haven't

CLpower

A viable source for what? That KBB prices are off? Go through the autotrader and see what cars are selling for and then look up their KBB.




Do I really need a viable source to show I paid 29K for my first gen and got 3800 for it on a trade 6 years later?

Beltfed

Reliability has been fine, no major issues to be noted.........BMW at the heart.

I have to admit as well, that the newer RRs have very nice interiors. But also, the above RR has the luxury package which is like $5k.

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

He's done this on several threads in Car Talk. And the funny part is that he seems to always argue with Mega Mods or Admins.

Don't sweat it CL... at this rate he'll hijack the wrong thread, argue with the wrong mod/admin, and end up with a vacation.