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Old 02-09-2008, 12:37 PM
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What are your opinions on this car dislikes and likes, has anyone owned one, would you buy one

IMO not fast enough and kinda looks like a girl car but other then that there somthing i like about it and i cant put my finger on it, maybe price?
Old 02-09-2008, 12:50 PM
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I really like the Miata (I still call it that). It is a superb little sports car. It is underpowered but so was the old one and it is still a classic.
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^^^ I completely agree, its a great little roadster, certainly not the fastest thing going but it so much fun to drive it won't bother you.
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Do they still sell the mazda speed mx5s? I think it was 200hp/200lbft which would be great in a light car like that.
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the new ones look kinda cool. i see them at the track all the time.
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Funny enough I've been toying with picking one of these up as a weekend toy instead of a Boxster so I can get a new motorcycle as well.

From what I've read they are pretty sweet cars and everyone who owns one loves it.
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I've drove one. I think their fun cars for someone who wants a "starter little fun car." I view them a notch under a S2K or 350z or SLK350.
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For 20 grand i dont think that there is a cooler car i would rather hav an mx-5 over a civic
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Originally Posted by tsxgoogs
For 20 grand i dont think that there is a cooler car i would rather hav an mx-5 over a civic
how about a loaded out Scion Tc.
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Originally Posted by stright-(paint)balling
how about a loaded out Scion Tc.
Eh faster but how could you turn down the convert
Old 02-09-2008, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stright-(paint)balling
how about a loaded out Scion Tc.
don't all tC's come 'loaded'? Unless you want all the spoilers and trd crap.
Plus I don't really see how the tc can even be compared to a 2-seater convertible.........I don't even think it is as fast.

I think the miata is very underrated. Comes off kinda as a chick car, but I don't think it gets much better for the money. I played w/ the hardtop a when it was first annouced at a car show, and it was very fast. Too bad the hardtop does add quite a bit to the pricetag.
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You looking to buy a used one or a new one ??

I did some research awhile back on these and some of the older ones do have issues, but those issues are pretty well documented on the web...

http://www.miata.net/faq/

http://www.miata.net/garage/
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Our second car is a 10th Anniversary Edition Miata with the 6-speed and LSD. It is, without question, one of the funnest cars to drive. It is not that quick, but the light weight combined with a well-tuned suspension makes it THE choice for any excursions during the warmer months.
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For some reason i cant really grasp that concept of somthing being fun to drive and not fast because i have never driven a car that was not fast but fun to drive, i have drivin fast cars that are fun

What could it be related to a go cart?
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Originally Posted by tsxgoogs
For some reason i cant really grasp that concept of somthing being fun to drive and not fast because i have never driven a car that was not fast but fun to drive, i have drivin fast cars that are fun

What could it be related to a go cart?
You've got to drive it to understand it, speed becomes very numbing and the thrill from driving fast wears thin quickly for most, so your left bored or looking for more speed. A car that is fun to drive, albeit not fast, never really wears thin because your so seduced by the experience you stop looking for more.
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Originally Posted by iTimmy
You've got to drive it to understand it, speed becomes very numbing and the thrill from driving fast wears thin quickly for most, so your left bored or looking for more speed. A car that is fun to drive, albeit not fast, never really wears thin because your so seduced by the experience you stop looking for more.
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Originally Posted by tsxgoogs
For some reason i cant really grasp that concept of somthing being fun to drive and not fast because i have never driven a car that was not fast but fun to drive, i have drivin fast cars that are fun

What could it be related to a go cart?
The fun from driving the MX-5 is from your driving actions (shifting, steering, body movement) and the car's smooth, fast coordinated responses to your driving actions and the sensation of being in a low, light, responsive, quick little car. The MX-5 has a great shifter, clutch, steering feel, etc. It's like a go kart compared to a Busch car. There's an old truism, "it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow," probably from people who drove old Alfas, MGs and Fiats that had 0-60s in the 12-second range compared to the "musclecars" and "sports cars" that had mid-8 second 0-60s.

The MX-5 is not a "fast" car now, but it's as quick as a TSX 6-speed manual: mid-7s 0-60. That's about the same 0-60 as stock musclecars from the '60s and '70s with the middle engine options (350, 351-C, 383, 396 ci V8s). The MX-5 is quick compared to most cars without 260hp+ V-6s, but is not "fast" like a V-6 Camry, TL, G35, Mustang GT or M3. OTOH, those "fast" cars won't have the same sensation of speed or immediate tactile responses, either-- the MX-5 driver is less isolated from the road.

If I could get a 2-seater or convertible, the MX-5 and S2000 are the only ones I would consider for less than $60K- not the 350Z, not the Mustang, not the GM products, not German convertibles. Oh, and if you are considering an automatic transmission MX-5, DON'T!
Old 02-10-2008, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
The fun from driving the MX-5 is from your driving actions (shifting, steering, body movement) and the car's smooth, fast coordinated responses to your driving actions and the sensation of being in a low, light, responsive, quick little car. The MX-5 has a great shifter, clutch, steering feel, etc. It's like a go kart compared to a Busch car. There's an old truism, "it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow," probably from people who drove old Alfas, MGs and Fiats that had 0-60s in the 12-second range compared to the "musclecars" and "sports cars" that had mid-8 second 0-60s.

The MX-5 is not a "fast" car now, but it's as quick as a TSX 6-speed manual: mid-7s 0-60. That's about the same 0-60 as stock musclecars from the '60s and '70s with the middle engine options (350, 351-C, 383, 396 ci V8s). The MX-5 is quick compared to most cars without 260hp+ V-6s, but is not "fast" like a V-6 Camry, TL, G35, Mustang GT or M3. OTOH, those "fast" cars won't have the same sensation of speed or immediate tactile responses, either-- the MX-5 driver is less isolated from the road.

If I could get a 2-seater or convertible, the MX-5 and S2000 are the only ones I would consider for less than $60K- not the 350Z, not the Mustang, not the GM products, not German convertibles. Oh, and if you are considering an automatic transmission MX-5, DON'T!
to everything he said. If you enjoy the car-driver connection, the MX5 is just a giant bag of fun. The exhaust note's right there, no throttle lag, clutch engagement feels exactly as it should, no slop in the shifter. I felt more at home in it than my own car (RSX-S).

The S2000 is more powerful and has the same sense of immediacy as the MX5, but is a bit less liveable -- it's twitchier to drive, has a tighter cockpit and seats, and is a bit jerky to drive slowly.
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
The fun from driving the MX-5 is from your driving actions (shifting, steering, body movement) and the car's smooth, fast coordinated responses to your driving actions and the sensation of being in a low, light, responsive, quick little car. The MX-5 has a great shifter, clutch, steering feel, etc. It's like a go kart compared to a Busch car. There's an old truism, "it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow," probably from people who drove old Alfas, MGs and Fiats that had 0-60s in the 12-second range compared to the "musclecars" and "sports cars" that had mid-8 second 0-60s.

The MX-5 is not a "fast" car now, but it's as quick as a TSX 6-speed manual: mid-7s 0-60. That's about the same 0-60 as stock musclecars from the '60s and '70s with the middle engine options (350, 351-C, 383, 396 ci V8s). The MX-5 is quick compared to most cars without 260hp+ V-6s, but is not "fast" like a V-6 Camry, TL, G35, Mustang GT or M3. OTOH, those "fast" cars won't have the same sensation of speed or immediate tactile responses, either-- the MX-5 driver is less isolated from the road.

If I could get a 2-seater or convertible, the MX-5 and S2000 are the only ones I would consider for less than $60K- not the 350Z, not the Mustang, not the GM products, not German convertibles. Oh, and if you are considering an automatic transmission MX-5, DON'T!
what do you got against the Benz SLK it's a pretty cool ride if your into that Hardtop convertible. the SLK350 runs 0-60 time as a Mustang GT.
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Miata's are an absolute blast to drive especially on a samll road course. Get one and you will be hooked.
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Originally Posted by iTimmy
You've got to drive it to understand it, speed becomes very numbing and the thrill from driving fast wears thin quickly for most, so your left bored or looking for more speed. A car that is fun to drive, albeit not fast, never really wears thin because your so seduced by the experience you stop looking for more.


It's kinda like what Jay Leno said about the Honda S600.... something to the effect of it being more fun to drive a slow car quickly than driving a fast car quickly.
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Originally Posted by stright-(paint)balling
what do you got against the Benz SLK it's a pretty cool ride if your into that Hardtop convertible. the SLK350 runs 0-60 time as a Mustang GT.
The SLK is auto tranny only and is a cruiser/GT, like the Eos, 3-series, Solstice, etc. rather than a true sports car like the Miata, S2000, Boxster/Cayman, Corvette, etc. The prior-generation SLK I drove once was pretty numb from a handling/steering standpoint.

Miatas are numerous in SCCA- and club-racing; I think they have their own road racing classes with the SCCA.
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If you want fast Miata, drop in a V8 (LINK) . Otherwise, just put the top down and enjoy the ride.
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Originally Posted by chill_dog
If you want fast Miata, drop in a V8 (LINK) . Otherwise, just put the top down and enjoy the ride.
One of my all-time favorite hybrid motor swaps. Monster Miata FTMFW!!!

One advantage for me personally of a MX-5 over an S2000 is I can actually fit some what comfortably in a MX-5. I have no shot in a S2000.
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