Murcielago owner's nightmare and near-death...
11-07-2006, 11:04 AM
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Murcielago owner's nightmare and near-death...
Hope this is not a repost...interesting read and I'm kinda 
-ing about it...
http://www.lambounfall.de/indexe.html
-ing about it...http://www.lambounfall.de/indexe.html
11-07-2006, 11:43 AM
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gee, that has pretty much quelled any desire I have ever had to get a Murcielago. :< I just couldnt imagine spending that much on a car and having trouble with it.
11-07-2006, 12:11 PM
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holy shit.. I think the craziest thing in there (and perhaps the most irrefutable evidence) is the fact that Lamborghini's own test drivers (such as Valentino, the guy who is considered invincible when it comes to driving Lamborghini) are crashing these cars! A few LP640's have crashed at the hands of Lambo drivers - these cars are not on sale yet!! (at least at the time of writing).
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11-07-2006, 12:15 PM
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http://www.wreckedexotics.com/special/lp640/
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...d-ar10599.html
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newpho...0329_004.shtml
I think there is a serious problem here.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...d-ar10599.html
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newpho...0329_004.shtml
I think there is a serious problem here.
11-07-2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
Just another reason to buy a Ferrari over a Lambo 
11-07-2006, 03:19 PM
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I will never buy any vehicle produced by Volkswagon!
11-07-2006, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by azninvazion
thats funny you say that because some F430s and some 360 Modenas have been going up in flames. out of no where. i've read on ferrarichat that there have been some problems with the cars and some oil lines have just been cathing fire.
11-07-2006, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Could quite possibly be the fugliest exotic evar!
11-07-2006, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
Lamborghinis are known to catch on fire plenty themselves.
11-07-2006, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by azninvazion
^^^ what you don't like lambo's
They're okay - but I think the F430 is damn near perfect.
I'd most prefer an updated NSX though
11-07-2006, 06:56 PM
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OH MY GOD.
First, I can't believe I read that entire thread.
Second, This really will make me look at Lamborghinis differently
Third, This makes me wonder if a lot of supercars have similar issues
....and fourth.....
The NSX is lookin' real good right about now!
First, I can't believe I read that entire thread.
Second, This really will make me look at Lamborghinis differently
Third, This makes me wonder if a lot of supercars have similar issues
....and fourth.....
The NSX is lookin' real good right about now!
11-07-2006, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
They're okay - but I think the F430 is damn near perfect.
I'd most prefer an updated NSX though
I'd most prefer an updated NSX though
11-07-2006, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
gee, that has pretty much quelled any desire I have ever had to get a Murcielago. :< I just couldnt imagine spending that much on a car and having trouble with it.
Balboni's accident was in a C&D issue a few months ago - he didn't really do any major damage. Just the rear bumper I believe (he spun and hit a sign post).
3 LP640's down before the car ever hit the street. Either smart, experienced, professionals are getting dumber, or the car has a "problem".
As far as Ferrari's go - I've heard that in certain cases they've been known to crack into two in more severe accidents. I believe this was how two football players were killed a while back in a black 360 spyder. I belive it was discussed on here in a thread about a Ferrari Enzo crash in which the car split into two - although in the case of the Enzo, this is what is meant to happen per my understanding - the car splits in severe accidents, absorbing energy and leaving the passenger compartment intact. Just ask Erik Steffan
You probably won't see crap like this happen with an NSX or LF-A or GTR. The cars would have to conform to their respective parent companies standards, and would probably have long gestation periods.
As an aside: all high powered cars, not just supercars, need ESP.
11-07-2006, 08:11 PM
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Audi sucks.
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11-07-2006, 08:14 PM
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moral of teh stoory, Acura > *
11-07-2006, 08:18 PM
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I guess i will spend my money on the new M3 instead of the LP640... oh well...
11-07-2006, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
moral of teh stoory, Acura > *haha so true...
11-07-2006, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by savage
I guess i will spend my money on the new M3 instead of the LP640... oh well...
HAHAHAHA
screw that blasted LP640, its good for nothing. 
11-08-2006, 03:45 AM
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Just some observations based on what there is to read here and also seen in the pictures.
Several cars were wrecked on snowy roads that are "in good condition", That is an interesting statement. What defines "good condition"?? Unless I am mistaken I seriously doubt that these Lamborginis come equipped with anything that even remotely resembles a snow tire. The tires these cars are equipped with are just about the most useless things imaginable for wet or snow conditions.
The author says he has a 100.000 km driving experience or something thereabouts. In miles driven that is about 65 or 70 thousand, not exactly a world record by any stretch of the imagination in fact I think i drove more miles in my first year as a driver.
Frequently mention is made of driver skill, yet nothing is shown that would demonstrate such skill. When somebody comes up with a clear cut test to determine driver ability then such claims of driver skill can be made, untill then it sounds mostly like ego and chest pounding to me.
Interesting how a "jerky gas pedal" even a "blind mechanic" should notice is not enough to prevent this person from driving the car. Apparently he is as blind to the issue as everyone else .
Since when is experience on the racetrack mean that you cannot make a mistake on normal roads?? I have driven on both with a total mileage probably exceeding 500.000 miles driven in 25 years or so, I still make mistakes.
Another thing that I think is sad is the guy thinks that since these cars are so expensive every nut bolt and screw ought to be rust free......... I guess that he spent a considerable portion of his wealth on this toy, guess what I spent a lot on my car too relative to what I earn, do us normal car drivers not also deserve good fasteners?? Or is rust free only reserved for the ultra class??
He mentions a friend with a car that has water in the tailights and mold in the trunk. Was the car hit?? The car is nearly 4 years old and probably 2 years out of warranty. You would think a person with the money to buy this kind of car might get the car fixed??Plus the guy is moaning about the "e-gear" being difficult to drive. I assume this person took the car for a road test before he bought the car. Or is it in his nature to buy things he cannot manage to operate properly??
It could be the guy had a genuine manufacturer made defect that caused the crash. On the other hand he might have just plain old screwed up just like millions of other drivers out there do every year. Now his beloved toy is a junkpile and he pissed because he might not want to admit he f*cked up.
Jens
Several cars were wrecked on snowy roads that are "in good condition", That is an interesting statement. What defines "good condition"?? Unless I am mistaken I seriously doubt that these Lamborginis come equipped with anything that even remotely resembles a snow tire. The tires these cars are equipped with are just about the most useless things imaginable for wet or snow conditions.
The author says he has a 100.000 km driving experience or something thereabouts. In miles driven that is about 65 or 70 thousand, not exactly a world record by any stretch of the imagination in fact I think i drove more miles in my first year as a driver.
Frequently mention is made of driver skill, yet nothing is shown that would demonstrate such skill. When somebody comes up with a clear cut test to determine driver ability then such claims of driver skill can be made, untill then it sounds mostly like ego and chest pounding to me.
Interesting how a "jerky gas pedal" even a "blind mechanic" should notice is not enough to prevent this person from driving the car. Apparently he is as blind to the issue as everyone else .
Since when is experience on the racetrack mean that you cannot make a mistake on normal roads?? I have driven on both with a total mileage probably exceeding 500.000 miles driven in 25 years or so, I still make mistakes.
Another thing that I think is sad is the guy thinks that since these cars are so expensive every nut bolt and screw ought to be rust free......... I guess that he spent a considerable portion of his wealth on this toy, guess what I spent a lot on my car too relative to what I earn, do us normal car drivers not also deserve good fasteners?? Or is rust free only reserved for the ultra class??
He mentions a friend with a car that has water in the tailights and mold in the trunk. Was the car hit?? The car is nearly 4 years old and probably 2 years out of warranty. You would think a person with the money to buy this kind of car might get the car fixed??Plus the guy is moaning about the "e-gear" being difficult to drive. I assume this person took the car for a road test before he bought the car. Or is it in his nature to buy things he cannot manage to operate properly??
It could be the guy had a genuine manufacturer made defect that caused the crash. On the other hand he might have just plain old screwed up just like millions of other drivers out there do every year. Now his beloved toy is a junkpile and he pissed because he might not want to admit he f*cked up.
Jens
11-08-2006, 10:42 AM
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Just some observations based on what there is to read here and also seen in the pictures.
Several cars were wrecked on snowy roads that are "in good condition", That is an interesting statement. What defines "good condition"?? Unless I am mistaken I seriously doubt that these Lamborginis come equipped with anything that even remotely resembles a snow tire. The tires these cars are equipped with are just about the most useless things imaginable for wet or snow conditions.
The author says he has a 100.000 km driving experience or something thereabouts. In miles driven that is about 65 or 70 thousand, not exactly a world record by any stretch of the imagination in fact I think i drove more miles in my first year as a driver.
Frequently mention is made of driver skill, yet nothing is shown that would demonstrate such skill. When somebody comes up with a clear cut test to determine driver ability then such claims of driver skill can be made, untill then it sounds mostly like ego and chest pounding to me.
Interesting how a "jerky gas pedal" even a "blind mechanic" should notice is not enough to prevent this person from driving the car. Apparently he is as blind to the issue as everyone else .
Since when is experience on the racetrack mean that you cannot make a mistake on normal roads?? I have driven on both with a total mileage probably exceeding 500.000 miles driven in 25 years or so, I still make mistakes.
Another thing that I think is sad is the guy thinks that since these cars are so expensive every nut bolt and screw ought to be rust free......... I guess that he spent a considerable portion of his wealth on this toy, guess what I spent a lot on my car too relative to what I earn, do us normal car drivers not also deserve good fasteners?? Or is rust free only reserved for the ultra class??
He mentions a friend with a car that has water in the tailights and mold in the trunk. Was the car hit?? The car is nearly 4 years old and probably 2 years out of warranty. You would think a person with the money to buy this kind of car might get the car fixed??Plus the guy is moaning about the "e-gear" being difficult to drive. I assume this person took the car for a road test before he bought the car. Or is it in his nature to buy things he cannot manage to operate properly??
It could be the guy had a genuine manufacturer made defect that caused the crash. On the other hand he might have just plain old screwed up just like millions of other drivers out there do every year. Now his beloved toy is a junkpile and he pissed because he might not want to admit he f*cked up.
Jens
Several cars were wrecked on snowy roads that are "in good condition", That is an interesting statement. What defines "good condition"?? Unless I am mistaken I seriously doubt that these Lamborginis come equipped with anything that even remotely resembles a snow tire. The tires these cars are equipped with are just about the most useless things imaginable for wet or snow conditions.
The author says he has a 100.000 km driving experience or something thereabouts. In miles driven that is about 65 or 70 thousand, not exactly a world record by any stretch of the imagination in fact I think i drove more miles in my first year as a driver.
Frequently mention is made of driver skill, yet nothing is shown that would demonstrate such skill. When somebody comes up with a clear cut test to determine driver ability then such claims of driver skill can be made, untill then it sounds mostly like ego and chest pounding to me.
Interesting how a "jerky gas pedal" even a "blind mechanic" should notice is not enough to prevent this person from driving the car. Apparently he is as blind to the issue as everyone else .
Since when is experience on the racetrack mean that you cannot make a mistake on normal roads?? I have driven on both with a total mileage probably exceeding 500.000 miles driven in 25 years or so, I still make mistakes.
Another thing that I think is sad is the guy thinks that since these cars are so expensive every nut bolt and screw ought to be rust free......... I guess that he spent a considerable portion of his wealth on this toy, guess what I spent a lot on my car too relative to what I earn, do us normal car drivers not also deserve good fasteners?? Or is rust free only reserved for the ultra class??
He mentions a friend with a car that has water in the tailights and mold in the trunk. Was the car hit?? The car is nearly 4 years old and probably 2 years out of warranty. You would think a person with the money to buy this kind of car might get the car fixed??Plus the guy is moaning about the "e-gear" being difficult to drive. I assume this person took the car for a road test before he bought the car. Or is it in his nature to buy things he cannot manage to operate properly??
It could be the guy had a genuine manufacturer made defect that caused the crash. On the other hand he might have just plain old screwed up just like millions of other drivers out there do every year. Now his beloved toy is a junkpile and he pissed because he might not want to admit he f*cked up.
Jens
it is also odd to me that lambo is not doing anything about it really. You would think they would want to nip this issue in the bud before this guy gets even more publicity.
11-08-2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JensH1963
Just some observations based on what there is to read here and also seen in the pictures.
Several cars were wrecked on snowy roads that are "in good condition", That is an interesting statement. What defines "good condition"?? Unless I am mistaken I seriously doubt that these Lamborginis come equipped with anything that even remotely resembles a snow tire. The tires these cars are equipped with are just about the most useless things imaginable for wet or snow conditions.
Several cars were wrecked on snowy roads that are "in good condition", That is an interesting statement. What defines "good condition"?? Unless I am mistaken I seriously doubt that these Lamborginis come equipped with anything that even remotely resembles a snow tire. The tires these cars are equipped with are just about the most useless things imaginable for wet or snow conditions.
The author says he has a 100.000 km driving experience or something thereabouts. In miles driven that is about 65 or 70 thousand, not exactly a world record by any stretch of the imagination in fact I think i drove more miles in my first year as a driver.
Frequently mention is made of driver skill, yet nothing is shown that would demonstrate such skill. When somebody comes up with a clear cut test to determine driver ability then such claims of driver skill can be made, untill then it sounds mostly like ego and chest pounding to me.
Interesting how a "jerky gas pedal" even a "blind mechanic" should notice is not enough to prevent this person from driving the car. Apparently he is as blind to the issue as everyone else .
Since when is experience on the racetrack mean that you cannot make a mistake on normal roads?? I have driven on both with a total mileage probably exceeding 500.000 miles driven in 25 years or so, I still make mistakes.
Another thing that I think is sad is the guy thinks that since these cars are so expensive every nut bolt and screw ought to be rust free......... I guess that he spent a considerable portion of his wealth on this toy, guess what I spent a lot on my car too relative to what I earn, do us normal car drivers not also deserve good fasteners?? Or is rust free only reserved for the ultra class??
He mentions a friend with a car that has water in the tailights and mold in the trunk. Was the car hit?? The car is nearly 4 years old and probably 2 years out of warranty. You would think a person with the money to buy this kind of car might get the car fixed??Plus the guy is moaning about the "e-gear" being difficult to drive. I assume this person took the car for a road test before he bought the car. Or is it in his nature to buy things he cannot manage to operate properly??
It could be the guy had a genuine manufacturer made defect that caused the crash. On the other hand he might have just plain old screwed up just like millions of other drivers out there do every year. Now his beloved toy is a junkpile and he pissed because he might not want to admit he f*cked up.
11-08-2006, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SSMTL01
Good points, but still no explanation for the cars randomly jerking to the right and catching on fire. (dry straight roads)
it is also odd to me that lambo is not doing anything about it really. You would think they would want to nip this issue in the bud before this guy gets even more publicity.
it is also odd to me that lambo is not doing anything about it really. You would think they would want to nip this issue in the bud before this guy gets even more publicity.
and Lambo's extreme reluctance to deal with the issue, in any way, is very peculiar and suspicious.