DrewSRX

Motive - BMW 335i Sedan vs. Infiniti G37S Sedan

http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature...7S_Sedan.shtml

majin ssj eric

Infiniti has definitely emerged as the only real competitor to BMW as of late....

iTimmy

I have to agree with you, dollar for dollar Infiniti is killing it. My only gripe, which they will probably answer soon seeing that they really seem to listen to their customers, is an upgraded interior option, and I don't mean rosewood trim. Even Acura has a premium leather option on the TL now, a similar luxury package would really put them in a new league, cooled seats, premium leather, heated steering wheel, heated rear seats, etc... Maybe even a real performance package consisting of an upgraded engine.

psteng19

The interior of the G37 is fine.

iTimmy

It is fine, but it wears quick, everyone who has one says the same thing. I had a 07 G35X and in 15k miles the seats showed more wear then my 04 TSX did in over 40k miles.

Mokos23

Doesn't the TSX have just some leather and rest is vinyl or pleather?

iTimmy

and I was under the impression most cars do the same, unless it is otherwise specified. Makes one wonder if real leather is better then modern synthetics.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

i just don't like Infiniti much..

Fishy

I hate it when mags set up these comparisons to get an obvious result. The G37 should be compared with the 328 because they are closer in price.

Put the shoe on the other foot and its like comparing the 335i to a M3. What's the point? More money->better stuff.

Infamous425

real leather wears faster than synthetics.... on the Bmw forums a lot of people with real leather seats complain of it wearing out/fading/cracking within the first 15k also whereas the people with leatherette dont have those problems

Fishy

That's Acura's problem in a nutshell. Until they develop Tier 1 leatherette, they will always be also-rans.

Crazy Bimmer

^ I tend to agree. You always get what you pay for.

Although, depending what you are after some may choose the 328i over the G35. The 328i has the same refinement that the article mentions. Only thing lacking in comparison is power, which we know isnt everything.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test

When i was shopping those two cars gave me sleepless nights. I couldnt figure out which one i liked better. They both impressed me in their own ways.

ostrich

I would love to see a comparison between the G37X and the 335xi. I understand that the 335xi is quite different from the 335i, in terms of handling and performance.

To me, the Infiniti G37 is a better choice also because of its superior reliability.

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

Dont forget the Acura TL 6psd 3.7 SH-AWD
Edmunds prefered the 6psd SHAWD system to everything else on the market so far in the last preview they put out.

3.7 offers better off turbo torque something displacement will always favor, regardless of how little turbo lag is claimed to exist. Point is you have NA 3.0 power before 2000rpm, much like us SC guys only realize full boost ~2800rpm and for sure 3000 and until then its partial boost as were waiting to spin the blower quick enough.. hey its only a 1L blower.

The new 370Z seems to be trapping around 105mph which is great so I guess the G37S would be what? ~104mph perhaps 103.5.

Crazy Bimmer

335i makes its peak torque at 1400rpms.

picus

I didn't think the auto in the 335i was gm-sourced as the article mentioned. I think the 328i is, but not the 335i?

majin ssj eric

Oh, way to post an article from BMW and Driver. Everybody knows how unbiased they are. They'd pick a BMW 3 series over Jesus.....

phile

Crazy Bimmer

True.

But i couldnt find any other articles with the 328i vs G35

knight rider

iTrader: (1)

If I were in the market I would go with the G. I just cannot get pass the dash appointments in the 3 Series. It looks dated and much too plain for a $40K car, let alone a $50K one.

I think the G looks better too.

achenator

I think the 335 auto tranny is ZF?

DrewSRX

In ideal conditions, a well driven G37S:

13.32 Sec @ 105.5 MPH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH7D5wMOeSk

Infamous425

yeah

335 = ZF AT

330/328 = GM AT

Saintor

The G3X drives indeed very well, the closest to a 3-series but not quite as grrrrrrreat... it is just that I can't live with its styling.

I'd take a 328i over a G. Power is overrated.

picus

Ya, not a big deal. I just hate when mags screw that stuff up.

iTimmy

You bring up a good point, not that I would say power is overrated, however, to the average consumer a G37 or 335i is WAY more power then they should have. When you compare a G vs. a 328i it makes the bimmer seem slow, when in reality, it is faster then most cars, not saying you want to run stoplights with a muscle car, but I believe a 328i runs a mid 14 second quarter mile, far from what I would call a "slow" car.

calgary2800

Bmw no question, I like my cars with engine smoothness, make that extreme engine smoothness. I read that the bigger 3.7 in the G is lumpier feeling that the 3.5 it replaced.

cM3go

I like the new G37, definitely a nice ride. Infiniti has really stepped up on the look of their interiors too.

SeCsTaC

BMW 335i > Infiniti G37 >>>>>>>>>>>> BMW 328i to me.

Overall I prefer the Infiniti interior, but I do love how BMW lets you choose a variety of different leather/trim combinations.

Infiniti needs to offer Brown leather and Piano Black interior trim! I think both of those are insanely nice.

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

Yeah it says that.. but im not quite sure about that, although its been a while since ive been in a 335, found this dyno however doesnt really clarify anything before 2K but still interesting Edmunds is geting up there:



http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...leId=121462#10

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

Heres another dyno even better done! Except for maybe the labeling of the axis:

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

Better torque build up then my supercharger id say full boost comes on a little before 3K.

Crazy Bimmer

No idea whats going on with those graphs but here a few from e90post.

stock 335xi

Crazy Bimmer

Sheesh hard to find dynos where they start before 2k

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

Isn't it?? haha

That one is a little better but same point where your going to feel the lag a bit, it wouldn't disuade me from enjoying one at the least bit, but still makes me wonder what a larger displacement V8 like a LS2 could do in terms of power off idle, and overall power/value.

Fishy

Its generally because the sports car guys who do dyno testing aren't interested in what happens below 3000RPM in a sports car. Here's a GT-R & 911 Turbo dyno for comparison:


Like the G (and the TL for that matter), the torque peaks in the sports car RPM range and gradually tapers off while the HP peaks broadly below the redline. And this is how a sports car should behave regardless of the actual HP: it all begins with the engine buzzing past 4000RPM and pulling strongly up to a high, sweet singing redline.

The 335i will feel likes its running out of breath in sports car RPM range because its basically a street light queen better off with the Camaro/Mustangs racing down Main Street.

Of the G&3's, my vote for a sports car experience would be:
M3 > G37 > 328i > G35 > 335i.

F23A4

That looks more like I would expect from the N54.

blakura

Never heard it put that way before, but I agree!

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

so true.