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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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Just noticed throght the wholesale car report that there is currently $2500 manufactuer incentive on 07 Ody's til Oct 31. Invoice - 2500 brings me closer to $31,500 + taxes etc. So I'm hoping for ~38K OTR. Might go tonight.

In all reality, if you did get one of these things, say, tonight - would you be the type that would mod it at all? I'm thinking that a set of nice wheels could look classy on it & it would be a tongue-in-cheek kind-of cool. Just my
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I was just asking for the sake of asking, because back in the day, most people had just cars, SUVs and the like didn't really exist yet, but people made do. When I was younger, my family went everywhere in our sedan (2 parents, 2 adults). Just seems like everyone jumps on the SUV/van thing nowadays and I'm just not sure they're necessary for everyone. That's all.
You forgot about something: before the mini-van, and SUV there was this:


These bad boys even had a rear facing jump seat in the rear.
8 passengers FTW. Fake wood siding models > *

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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
You forgot about something: before the mini-van, and SUV there was this:


These bad boys even had a rear facing jump seat in the rear.
8 passengers FTW. Fake wood siding models > *

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That's right

I'll take one with wood please
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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I got 160,000 on my 2000 Ody. i love it. does fairly well on gas 20-22 mpg it was my parents old ody. they got a 05 and i made a down payment on their 05 Ody and i got their 00.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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growing up my parents had a regular cab nissan pick-up, and me and my brother had to sit behind the front seats in some little jumper seats that faced each other. I don't think I ever had to sit in a babyseat.

All parents I know now all NEED an SUV or mini-van. Just the kids seats alone take up most of the trunk when we go out, and the kids aren't there. and my cousin's car is always just packed full of toys and junk. I can't believe the amount of stuff people have these days .
by the time I have kids everyone is going to need a school bus.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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I see you in here Dom,...........did you go tonight?


I voted Ody btw
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Bought It. Silver EX.

Like I thought. MSRP was $36,900. Got it at invoice, $33,764 +$500 minus $2500 Honda incentive. My out the Door price was $38,500 including winter mats. Even got decent money for the trade. $9200 for an 03 Rendezvous CX.

Wife and I loved the way it drove. Great steering and surprisingly flat cornering.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by revitupwriteitoff
In all reality, if you did get one of these things, say, tonight - would you be the type that would mod it at all? I'm thinking that a set of nice wheels could look classy on it & it would be a tongue-in-cheek kind-of cool. Just my

Not really the modding type. Besides, its the wife's ride. I kinda like the style of the 16's that come with it.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Whoa it was $31,764 before taxes and such?

Holy crap, $38,500 was otd? Is tax that much where you live?

Either way congrats! If i hadnt driven one then i would be anti-minivan but that Honda drives like a car!
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
I was just asking for the sake of asking, because back in the day, most people had just cars, SUVs and the like didn't really exist yet, but people made do. When I was younger, my family went everywhere in our sedan (2 parents, 2 adults). Just seems like everyone jumps on the SUV/van thing nowadays and I'm just not sure they're necessary for everyone. That's all.
They're not necessary. Just really convenient. You can definately fit a lot of stuff in the trunk of a car. But on trips, it's really tough. Between a stroller, a couple bags, toys and assorted crap, you have a trunk and half the back seat.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Bought It. Silver EX.

Like I thought. MSRP was $36,900. Got it at invoice, $33,764 +$500 minus $2500 Honda incentive. My out the Door price was $38,500 including winter mats. Even got decent money for the trade. $9200 for an 03 Rendezvous CX.

Wife and I loved the way it drove. Great steering and surprisingly flat cornering.
COngrats man. Post some pics.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Whoa it was $31,764 before taxes and such?

Holy crap, $38,500 was otd? Is tax that much where you live?

Either way congrats! If i hadnt driven one then i would be anti-minivan but that Honda drives like a car!
The $2500 get deducted after taxes. So $33,764 + 500 = $34,264 + $1,605 (Freight, AC Tax) X 14% tax = $40,890 - $2500 = $38,400. Because of the trade I actually paid less. but thats what it what have worked out to without the trade.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Bought It. Silver EX.

Like I thought. MSRP was $36,900. Got it at invoice, $33,764 +$500 minus $2500 Honda incentive. My out the Door price was $38,500 including winter mats. Even got decent money for the trade. $9200 for an 03 Rendezvous CX.

Wife and I loved the way it drove. Great steering and surprisingly flat cornering.
Congrats!
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Congrats again! Tell me it has automatic sliding doors

Post us some pics .You are probably the fastest member that has opened a thread then bought the car right away.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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wow 14% tax is loony. No wonder you guys get free health care.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Congrats again! Tell me it has automatic sliding doors

Post us some pics .You are probably the fastest member that has opened a thread then bought the car right away.
Yes it does have auto doors, just found that out today myself.

I've actually been looking at a new vehicle for a few weeks now but the Ody just came into te picture a few days ago. The Highlander was the primary focus.

Jesal, welcome to
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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wow 14% tax is loony. No wonder you guys get free health care.
You can say that again.

Welcome to Canada again
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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wow 14% tax is loony. No wonder you guys get free health care.
That's what I always tell my cousins.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Congrats Dom! The Ody is a solid choice.

SS and I were trying to figure out how to get a 20' extension ladder into the back of my TSX today, so I know what you mean by a Home Depot vehicle.

Was the Rendezvous giving you trouble? You only had it for a short while...
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Congrats Dom! The Ody is a solid choice.

SS and I were trying to figure out how to get a 20' extension ladder into the back of my TSX today, so I know what you mean by a Home Depot vehicle.

Was the Rendezvous giving you trouble? You only had it for a short while...

Almost 3 years. We never really liked it, which was the main problem. Other than that, suspension problems (control arm bushings) and the worry that GM's 3.4L's all leak coolant into the engine at some point. From what I was told, its a matter of when not if. It can be an expensive repair if not caught in time.

But I was tired of driving it (love boat like handling) and looking at it mostly. The GM expeirement failed.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Wow time flies... I could have sworn it was just like last year when you got it.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Bought It. Silver EX.

Like I thought. MSRP was $36,900. Got it at invoice, $33,764 +$500 minus $2500 Honda incentive. My out the Door price was $38,500 including winter mats. Even got decent money for the trade. $9200 for an 03 Rendezvous CX.

Wife and I loved the way it drove. Great steering and surprisingly flat cornering.
Congrats!

The steering, cornering and acceleration were much sharper than any other minivan, and those of many cars and SUVs, when we got our '04 Ody.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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wow 14% tax is loony. No wonder you guys get free health care.
Here in the wild frontier of western Canada we only pay 6%

Congrats on the new van dom!

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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Congrats Dom
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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Here in the wild frontier of western Canada we only pay 6%

Terry



And thanks everyone.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Bought It. Silver EX.

Like I thought. MSRP was $36,900. Got it at invoice, $33,764 +$500 minus $2500 Honda incentive. My out the Door price was $38,500 including winter mats. Even got decent money for the trade. $9200 for an 03 Rendezvous CX.

Wife and I loved the way it drove. Great steering and surprisingly flat cornering.
Nice... Congrats...

That 2500 incentive must have sealed the deal... can't beat invoice-2500
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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GM's 3.4L's all leak coolant into the engine at some point. From what I was told, its a matter of when not if. It can be an expensive repair if not caught in time.
Yeah, I guess it's pretty well known that the intake gaskets fail on those things pretty often... The GM 3.8L is the better engine.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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Nice... Congrats...

That 2500 incentive must have sealed the deal... can't beat invoice-2500
It did, I was going in thinking I'd pay invoice. Luckily I read the wholesale car report a little more carefully before I went. That incentive expires the 31st. Although I'm sure it will remain or increase through Nov as the 08's arrive at the end of Nov.

The Highlander at $500 over invoice would have cost me about $45700 OTD.

Now they just have to find a Silver EX
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
SS and I were trying to figure out how to get a 20' extension ladder into the back of my TSX today, so I know what you mean by a Home Depot vehicle.

I forgot to ask, did it fit?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Congrats Dom! The Ody is a solid choice.

SS and I were trying to figure out how to get a 20' extension ladder into the back of my TSX today, so I know what you mean by a Home Depot vehicle.

Was the Rendezvous giving you trouble? You only had it for a short while...
I bought an office chair at Staples a couple weeks ago and had them put it together for me. Didn't think about how I was going to actually get it in the car until I got out there and ended up putting it in and taking it out 3 times before finally stuffing it into the back seat....it wasn't easy. I think that was the first time I ever thought to myself that a small SUV would come in handy, lol.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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I guess its different in Canada since we have to pay for invoice pricing and wholesale car reports but the salesman and business manager seemed genuinely surprised that I knew what invoice was and about the incentive. Not sure if they were just playing me, but they seemed honest.

Before we even talked numbers he tried to sell me an 07 Demo with 12,000km's for $37,670 OTD.

Either way it was the best car buying experience I've ever had. I basically told him what I was willing to pay, told him he'd have a deal now if they agreed and that was it. There was some hangling on the trade in but even that went smoother than I anticipated.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Bought It. Silver EX.

Like I thought. MSRP was $36,900. Got it at invoice, $33,764 +$500 minus $2500 Honda incentive. My out the Door price was $38,500 including winter mats. Even got decent money for the trade. $9200 for an 03 Rendezvous CX.

Wife and I loved the way it drove. Great steering and surprisingly flat cornering.
Congratulations but WOW!!! With respect to the current 1:1 exchange rate, $38,500 is about sticker for a Touring w/Navi-RES stateside.

That said, we will likely be returning the Murano next Fall (lease) and trading our Quest for an Ody EX-L as well.

Sidenote on the Murano (for those who are interested): With the wife, I and our two teens, we did the NJ<->Florida trip twice in our Murano as it has just enough room for make that trip comfortably. Now with our 7 month old daughter and her logistics (stroller, travel play pen, etc,...), the Murano is insufficient for us to use on such trips. I will miss the Murano when the time comes but look forward to owning the Ody.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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Congratulations but WOW!!! With respect to the current 1:1 exchange rate, $38,500 is about sticker for a Touring w/Navi-RES stateside.

That said, we will likely be returning the Murano next Fall (lease) and trading our Quest for an EX-L as well.

Sidenote on the Murano (for those who are interested): With the wife, I and our two teens, we did the NJ<->Florida trip twice in our Murano as it has just enough room for make that trip comfortably. Now with our 7 month old daughter and her logistics (stroller, travel play pen, etc,...), the Murano is insufficient for us to use on such trips. I will miss the Murano when the time comes but look forward to owning the Ody.

I know, An EX would have been about 29K US. But it would have cost me about 33-34K to bring it here, + the higher interest rate to pay for it (6.25% on a line of credit) vs the 1.9% I got through Honda Canada. Then there was the whole warranty thing. Last thing I need is bringing my wife's vehicle to Buffalo to have it fixed.
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I know, An EX would have been about 29K US. But it would have cost me about 33-34K to bring it here, + the higher interest rate to pay for it (6.25% on a line of credit) vs the 1.9% I got through Honda Canada. Then there was the whole warranty thing. Last thing I need is bringing my wife's vehicle to Buffalo to have it fixed.
Makes sense.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Congrats dom
Now the question: What are you going to do with the "plus one seat"?
If you wanna ditch it, it will fit folded under the floor...if you remove the lazy susan.

BTW...CLEAN OUT YOUR INBOX.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Congrats dom
Now the question: What are you going to do with the "plus one seat"?
If you wanna ditch it, it will fit folded under the floor...if you remove the lazy susan.

BTW...CLEAN OUT YOUR INBOX.
According to the brochure, lazy Sue is Touring only up here.

I was thinking of storing it but maybe you could provide some info. I'll have baby seats on each of the buckets. Which means they can't be folded to allow passengers to get to the 3rd row, correct? So I'll either have to remove the plus one to allow passage to the back through the middle, or bring the seats together to allow passage on the passenger side. ?

Clearing PM now.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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I say slam it and slap a turbo on it, with CL-S pistons and RL cam and get a funny sounding JDM body kit like Hippo Sleek then post pics...
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According to the brochure, lazy Sue is Touring only up here.

I was thinking of storing it but maybe you could provide some info. I'll have baby seats on each of the buckets. Which means they can't be folded to allow passengers to get to the 3rd row, correct? So I'll either have to remove the plus one to allow passage to the back through the middle, or bring the seats together to allow passage on the passenger side. ?

Clearing PM now.
Bingo...you solved your problem. Slide them together...it's easier...store the plus one in the garage...and leave the underfloor for storage.

U.S. (at least 2006) EX has lazy Susan.....it's meh IMHO.
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Congrats, Dom!! Driving home in a new car is always exciting!! I'm sure you'll really enjoy it!

We're so thankful we have the option of borrowing one from family when its flexibility and storage space is needed....it's been a great help! And for what it's worth: I HATE the power sliding side doors! If it was an option, my personal choice would be to do without.

One thing I wondered...and maybe you'd have more insight seeing as you're a Dad... But would you have preferred a bench seat for the second row (like it used to be) instead of two buckets? Just wondering if it helps to have a whole seat going across with the kids...in case they wanted to put things (toys, whatever) down beside them, etc. With the buckets, there's no room to place anything beside them to grab; everything would just fall right to the ground. Also, no one can sit with them. Do those types of things play any role? Just curious since almost all newer vehicles use this type of configuration.
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