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Old 07-13-2006, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
Doom, do you honestly believe if you leave your car w/ the dealership that if they damage it they aren't responsible? Sign or no sign?
If they damage my car in a repair, obviously they're responsible. If the car gets stolen and the police can't prove an inside job, then I'm shit outta luck and claim my insurance. Since the car was recovered then you're at the dealer's mercy. Why not call your insurance company and ask them if they can go after the dealer? Don't they want their insured item to be as new as possible?

Thanks for the clarification Chief. I don't understand why nobody goes after dealers to take these signs off if they're blatantly lying to customers. I wish I could find the statute on personal property left in care or a bailment as you stated. That might help Ravi's case.
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Now that I know the name of the relationship thanks to Chief, here's something I found regarding NJ law.

C. Duty of Care Owed by Bailee
1. Mutual Bailment
A "mutual bailment" is a bailment which is beneficial to both the bailor (the person who surrenders the property) and the bailee (the person who receives the property). Where there is a bailment for mutual benefit, a bailee will be liable for damage to the property or loss of the property if that damage or loss results from the bailee's negligence. Thus a bailee is liable to the bailor for loss or damage to the property if the bailee has failed to exercise reasonable care for the safety of the property which came into the bailee's possession. Reasonable care means such care for the safety of the property as a person of ordinary prudence would exercise in the same or similar circumstances.
Cases and Comments:
Rogers v. Reid Oldsmobile, Inc., 58 N.J. Super. 375 (App. Div. 1959); Parnell v. Rohrer Chevrolet Co., 95 N.J. Super. 471 (App. Div. 1967) (automobile stripped while kept by bailee in a large cyclone fence enclosure); Franklin v. Airport Grills, Inc., 21 N.J. Super. 409 (App. Div. 1952) (mere fact of fire in a restaurant is not sufficient to establish negligence).
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=5

Search the cases to see if negligence can be proven against the dealership. If that can be proven, then they should be responsible.
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To question the original post, can you make copies of car keys so fast? I thought nowadays only dealers can provide them. Or does he think the dealer made the copies?
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good job Doom. There are free legal research sites, one of the best is the cornell law school's whose address is probably cornell.edu Sometimes I amaze myself that I can remember some of the stupidest stuff learned when it was 17 years ago! (on bailments that is)
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Need a paralegal?
Old 07-14-2006, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Now that I know the name of the relationship thanks to Chief, here's something I found regarding NJ law.



http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=5

Search the cases to see if negligence can be proven against the dealership. If that can be proven, then they should be responsible.
Very nice. Thanks.
Old 07-15-2006, 05:30 AM
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Need a paralegal?
I already have 4 and a law clerk but thanks
Old 07-15-2006, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by parshooter
How were they screwed by OHIO? Bet shit like this happens in every state.
I've never had car problems in any state except Ohio.
Also, driving a Saturn is bad for your carma.

Well, my home Acura dealer's service department in the Detroit area turned out to be pricks, and I did get tapped on the rear outside of Grove City, Pennsylvania. Everytime I'm in Chicagoland, I pray for dear life. But nothing matches my Ohio mishaps.
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I hope they didnt take the car off the dealer lot like that. Tell them to get a lawyer and to contact all the local news stations. Over here in NY we have 7 on your side and shame on you, just to name a few.
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Post the dealership and their mailing address. We'll all each send them a letter and cc to the corporate. Let them know how serious and how we feel about it That's the best I can do for ya
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Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
Post the dealership and their mailing address. We'll all each send them a letter and cc to the corporate. Let them know how serious and how we feel about it That's the best I can do for ya


I'm quite good at writing eloquently nasty letters
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Judging on how professional the sales mgr was they'd probably literally wipe their ass with letters.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Judging on how professional the sales mgr was they'd probably literally wipe their ass with letters.
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