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04-19-2006, 05:06 PM
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So several people here have driven both cars multiple times but you say they're "talking out of their ass," while you test drove the Z (poorly at that) and you're suddenly a fountain of knowledge? 
I hope this is some research project you're doing for work, because I can't imagine anyone would claim to be so smart yet fail to grasp such simple concepts
I hope this is some research project you're doing for work, because I can't imagine anyone would claim to be so smart yet fail to grasp such simple concepts
04-19-2006, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bkknight369
what the hell are you talking about? he OWNED the car for a while, fully experienced it, and gave his opinions. No arm-chair reasoning
My post responding to his states CLEARLY everything you need to know to come to the same conclusion. PLEASE READ THAT POST.
Look, why can't you people READ posts before responding like low iq monkeys? Pathetic. (I'm not really referring to bkknight here.)
04-19-2006, 05:20 PM
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Dude, you obviously have no idea about the RX8. His comments about mileage and oil are inaccurate. So inaccurate that I can infer certain things. For example, he's obviously restating early "bandwagon" notions that were spread all over the world about the RX8. Some of his statements about oil and mileage are off the top of his head to be "best" of his memory (i.e., bandwagon "facts"). I can deduce that he did not document everything. Hell, he owned the damn car for 650 miles!
My post responding to his states CLEARLY everything you need to know to come to the same conclusion. PLEASE READ THAT POST.
Look, why can't you people READ posts before responding like low iq monkeys? Pathetic. (I'm not really referring to bkknight here.)
My post responding to his states CLEARLY everything you need to know to come to the same conclusion. PLEASE READ THAT POST.
Look, why can't you people READ posts before responding like low iq monkeys? Pathetic. (I'm not really referring to bkknight here.)
04-19-2006, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
So inaccurate that I can infer certain things. For example, he's obviously restating early "bandwagon" notions that were spread all over the world about the RX8.
Worldwide? No shit.
04-19-2006, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
I'm probably more successful then you in my 20's then you are at 38. Just b/c I'm not a pompous ass about it like some people doesn't mean it's not the case.Wow, glad I was able to see that reply. He made such good points too... all backed up with facts!! My guess is that he has never been on the RX8 forum where everything I observed during my ownership is what many members on there also saw. Search for MPG on that site and sit back and enjoy reading any one of the 13 or so pages of topics found as matches.
It's a shame I have to log off to do some things b/c I am very much looking forward to everyone's replies
. I wonder if he'll even make it through the night.Your statements go around the issue and reveal the truth of things. You stated that you got certain mileage in certain driving conditions and you stated that you had to add oil around once every 3 gas fill-ups. However, in 650 miles, you would have only had the chance to add oil ONCE and fill up with gas a MAX of 3-4 times. You would not have had the chance to actually document mpg with enough samples across the different driving conditions.
So let me ask you, did you or didn't you document mileage EVERY SINGLE time you fill up with gas? Do you remember FOR A FACT that you added oil after 3 fill-ups? In another thread, I noticed you mentioned 3 to 5 fill-ups. Or are you just going with rumors and other "common comments"?
The owner's manual DOES NOT say to check oil every gas fill-up. You guess that if you had driven super hard, you "probably" would have gotten 13 mpg. Did you actually get that mileage and document it for a fact?
Case closed. You don't know very much about the RX8.
04-19-2006, 05:27 PM
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Yea...that's it! we are all idiots and wrong and you are brilliant and correct.
They come on here, point out that we're morons, we redicule and ban them, and continue on in our ignorant way.
04-19-2006, 05:28 PM
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So several people here have driven both cars multiple times but you say they're "talking out of their ass," while you test drove the Z (poorly at that) and you're suddenly a fountain of knowledge?
I hope this is some research project you're doing for work, because I can't imagine anyone would claim to be so smart yet fail to grasp such simple concepts
I hope this is some research project you're doing for work, because I can't imagine anyone would claim to be so smart yet fail to grasp such simple concepts
Who knew people could be experts from a 10min test drive.
04-19-2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Case closed. You don't know very much about the RX8.
04-19-2006, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
I have been a member of that forum shortly after it was started.
Your statements go around the issue and reveal the truth of things. You stated that you got certain mileage in certain driving conditions and you stated that you had to add oil around once every 3 gas fill-ups. However, in 650 miles, you would have only had the chance to add oil ONCE and fill up with gas a MAX of 3-4 times. You would not have had the chance to actually document mpg with enough samples across the different driving conditions.
So let me ask you, did you or didn't you document mileage EVERY SINGLE time you fill up with gas? Do you remember FOR A FACT that you added oil after 3 fill-ups? In another thread, I noticed you mentioned 3 to 5 fill-ups. Or are you just going with rumors and other "common comments"?
The owner's manual DOES NOT say to check oil every gas fill-up. You guess that if you had driven super hard, you "probably" would have gotten 13 mpg. Did you actually get that mileage and document it for a fact?
Case closed. You don't know very much about the RX8.
Your statements go around the issue and reveal the truth of things. You stated that you got certain mileage in certain driving conditions and you stated that you had to add oil around once every 3 gas fill-ups. However, in 650 miles, you would have only had the chance to add oil ONCE and fill up with gas a MAX of 3-4 times. You would not have had the chance to actually document mpg with enough samples across the different driving conditions.
So let me ask you, did you or didn't you document mileage EVERY SINGLE time you fill up with gas? Do you remember FOR A FACT that you added oil after 3 fill-ups? In another thread, I noticed you mentioned 3 to 5 fill-ups. Or are you just going with rumors and other "common comments"?
The owner's manual DOES NOT say to check oil every gas fill-up. You guess that if you had driven super hard, you "probably" would have gotten 13 mpg. Did you actually get that mileage and document it for a fact?
Case closed. You don't know very much about the RX8.
Did you document the skipping EVERY SINGLE time you took a corner in the Z???
Did you measure nose dive and g forces over every turn??? Do you remember FOR A FACT that it skips when cornering at over 20 mph or are you just going with rumors and other "common comments"?
You're making the same assertions based on limited exposure that others are. Dumbass.
04-19-2006, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
Yea...that's it! we are all idiots and wrong and you are brilliant and correct.
The only statement I made about the 350z that has been made to be controversial is the "skip." I've said enough on that and will not go further. Why would anyone call BS on that when, if anything, people here who like me or not must have at least noticed that I have an affinity for detail....unless you didn't read all my posts....AHHH.
Part of the thing that people are jumping on me is because they've gone to the other thread on engines and noticed I was bashing mrdeeno. Well, if you enter things midway through you would probably conclude that I was the instigator, which is not true. It all started EARLIER in another thread (review my first few posts since I joined AZ) in which mrdeeno was acting like a totall ASSHOLE. You can see he was playing psych games even with other people BEFORE I entered that thread. I complained to the moderator and he closed the thread. mrdeeno started shit with me and he has a reputation for being a TOTAL DICK.
There was no need for certain people like sarlacc to erroneously take things from the engine thread back to here. My participation in this thread should not have caused any controversy.
04-19-2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Does anyone in here want to assert that he has more knowledge than I do about the RX8?
04-19-2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Again, you are trying to incite. Review this entire thread. Nothing I say is very controversial. That guy's statements about the RX8 regarding mileage and oil are way off. He did not make those statements based on HIS OWN ACTUAL EXPERIENCE. I have documented mileage for EVERY SINGLE TANK OF GAS since the day I bought the car for the last 3 years. My comments and responses about the RX8 are not controversial in the least. Does anyone in here want to assert that he has more knowledge than I do about the RX8?
The only statement I made about the 350z that has been made to be controversial is the "skip." I've said enough on that and will not go further. Why would anyone call BS on that when, if anything, people here who like me or not must have at least noticed that I have an affinity for detail....unless you didn't read all my posts....AHHH.
Part of the thing that people are jumping on me is because they've gone to the other thread on engines and noticed I was bashing mrdeeno. Well, if you enter things midway through you would probably conclude that I was the instigator, which is not true. It all started EARLIER in another thread (review my first few posts since I joined AZ) in which mrdeeno was acting like a totall ASSHOLE. You can see he was playing psych games even with other people BEFORE I entered that thread. I complained to the moderator and he closed the thread. mrdeeno started shit with me and he has a reputation for being a TOTAL DICK.
There was no need for certain people like sarlacc to erroneously take things from the engine thread back to here. My participation in this thread should not have caused any controversy.
The only statement I made about the 350z that has been made to be controversial is the "skip." I've said enough on that and will not go further. Why would anyone call BS on that when, if anything, people here who like me or not must have at least noticed that I have an affinity for detail....unless you didn't read all my posts....AHHH.
Part of the thing that people are jumping on me is because they've gone to the other thread on engines and noticed I was bashing mrdeeno. Well, if you enter things midway through you would probably conclude that I was the instigator, which is not true. It all started EARLIER in another thread (review my first few posts since I joined AZ) in which mrdeeno was acting like a totall ASSHOLE. You can see he was playing psych games even with other people BEFORE I entered that thread. I complained to the moderator and he closed the thread. mrdeeno started shit with me and he has a reputation for being a TOTAL DICK.
There was no need for certain people like sarlacc to erroneously take things from the engine thread back to here. My participation in this thread should not have caused any controversy.
Nissan is playing games with you with their leather quality
MrDeeno was playing psych games with you
Killer is trying to incite you
I think you're way too paranoid for the line of work you claim to be in
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
I'm probably more successful then you in my 20's then you are at 38. Just b/c I'm not a pompous ass about it like some people doesn't mean it's not the case.Wow, glad I was able to see that reply. He made such good points too... all backed up with facts!! My guess is that he has never been on the RX8 forum where everything I observed during my ownership is what many members on there also saw. Search for MPG on that site and sit back and enjoy reading any one of the 13 or so pages of topics found as matches.
It's a shame I have to log off to do some things b/c I am very much looking forward to everyone's replies
. I wonder if he'll even make it through the night.
You're probably more successful in your 20's than me now? Would you like to make a bet?
Look, I don't want to have a problem with you. You made some statements on the RX8 without actual personal experience. God, you had the car for 650 miles! Let me say it again: 650 miles. You misspoke on oil and mileage, right? Can you at least concede that? It's not the biggest deal in the world. You went with "common knowledge" instead of actual personal experience. Just say it, it's not a big deal.
And get these dumb mofo's off my fucking back at least regarding the RX8. Then I'll handle them regarding the 350z.
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
You're probably more successful in your 20's than me now? Would you like to make a bet?
Idiot
04-19-2006, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
You apparently don't know about my participation in MANY of those mileage threads.
You're probably more successful in your 20's than me now? Would you like to make a bet?
Look, I don't want to have a problem with you. You made some statements on the RX8 without actual personal experience. God, you had the car for 650 miles! Let me say it again: 650 miles. You misspoke on oil and mileage, right? Can you at least concede that? It's not the biggest deal in the world. You went with "common knowledge" instead of actual personal experience. Just say it, it's not a big deal.
And get these dumb mofo's off my fucking back at least regarding the RX8. Then I'll handle them regarding the 350z.
You're probably more successful in your 20's than me now? Would you like to make a bet?
Look, I don't want to have a problem with you. You made some statements on the RX8 without actual personal experience. God, you had the car for 650 miles! Let me say it again: 650 miles. You misspoke on oil and mileage, right? Can you at least concede that? It's not the biggest deal in the world. You went with "common knowledge" instead of actual personal experience. Just say it, it's not a big deal.
And get these dumb mofo's off my fucking back at least regarding the RX8. Then I'll handle them regarding the 350z.
You're a sad, sad little man
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Does it really matter? You remind me of a kid who just lost a Geography bee in middle school.
04-19-2006, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
As you know, it matters because people are even attacking for my comments on the RX8. It's absolutely hilarious.
04-19-2006, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Nothing I say is very controversial. That guy's statements about the RX8 regarding mileage and oil are way off.
He did not make those statements based on HIS OWN ACTUAL EXPERIENCE.
I have documented mileage for EVERY SINGLE TANK OF GAS since the day I bought the car for the last 3 years. My comments and responses about the RX8 are not controversial in the least.
people here who like me
where?
Part of the thing that people are jumping on me is because they've gone to the other thread on engines and noticed I was bashing mrdeeno. Well, if you enter things midway through you would probably conclude that I was the instigator, which is not true. It all started EARLIER in another thread (review my first few posts since I joined AZ) in which mrdeeno was acting like a totall ASSHOLE. You can see he was playing psych games even with other people BEFORE I entered that thread. I complained to the moderator and he closed the thread. mrdeeno started shit with me and he has a reputation for being a TOTAL DICK.
did your parents care who started it? we don't either.
There was no need for certain people like sarlacc to erroneously take things from the engine thread back to here. My participation in this thread should not have caused any controversy.
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Actually a bunch of people from elsewhere have already checked the 3 threads out. There is much consensus. Some car forums are higher level, some not so good. Remember, dumb is dumb but dumb doesn't know it.
Some people are cool here, like dom and gavrill, both of whom are moderators. I wonder if dom or gavrill will take a cause and go against these other clown moderators. Just kidding.
Some people are cool here, like dom and gavrill, both of whom are moderators. I wonder if dom or gavrill will take a cause and go against these other clown moderators. Just kidding.
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And I have function to attend later tonight.
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Some people are cool here, like dom and gavrill, both of whom are moderators. I wonder if dom or gavrill will take a cause and go against these other clown moderators. Just kidding.
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
Sadly, my internet is having problems, and I never when I'm going to lose the signal to the cable modem...fucking Charter cant come til late tomorrow.
And I have function to attend later tonight.
But I am here for the moment
And I have function to attend later tonight.
But I am here for the moment
04-19-2006, 06:00 PM
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Sorry, most of us are attacking you because you're a douchebag
This guy's a bigger asshat than me in half my posts in Ramblings.
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link? or is this just based on your own experience?
let's see.... who to believe? you, since you were obvioulsy there to see that he never had that experience with the RX8? or him, since he couldn't help but be there for his own experience? hmmmm, tough one.
So his comments based on his experience are controversial and questionable, but your comments based on your experience are not? makes sense.
where?
did your parents care who started it? we don't either.
your belief in your own omnipotence is staggering. who are you to say how we should or should not react?
let's see.... who to believe? you, since you were obvioulsy there to see that he never had that experience with the RX8? or him, since he couldn't help but be there for his own experience? hmmmm, tough one.
So his comments based on his experience are controversial and questionable, but your comments based on your experience are not? makes sense.
where? did your parents care who started it? we don't either.your belief in your own omnipotence is staggering. who are you to say how we should or should not react?
04-19-2006, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Actually a bunch of people from elsewhere have already checked the 3 threads out. There is much consensus. Some car forums are higher level, some not so good. Remember, dumb is dumb but dumb doesn't know it.
I would love to hear from these people, get them in here.
Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Some people are cool here, like dom and gavrill, both of whom are moderators. I wonder if dom or gavrill will take a cause and go against these other clown moderators. Just kidding.
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
The whole point is that in 650 miles of ownership, he would not have had the chance to even document. He is actually going with "common knowledge" that has been spread. He has not stated that everything he said is his ACTUAL EXPERIENCE. Because they are not actual experience, not in 650 miles. Got it?
He shared his viewpoint, you didnt like it. We know that. Your 15 minutes of fame is over.
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Regarding the skip, the article doesn't talk about a skip but talks about how the Z's handling limits sneak up on you. I have to agree completely. The skip has NOTHING to do with ABS. Yes, it has something to do with braking and turning, but that does not mean I don't know how to drive. Let's get off the testosterone, guys. Everyone is a street racer and autocross "expert." Give me a break. The skip is almost imperceptible. Yes, you can avoid it by just letting the car go through the corner and the rear end slide while powering out. Wouldn't it be ridiculous to drive like that on you daily commute?
My point is that going around the corner at speed (not even that fast, around 20 mph) does not inspire confidence in the Z. At the same and greater speed, the RX8 just glides around the same corner. However, the RX8 does have body roll, which is the ONLY issue about its handling. Mazda tuned the suspension like that on purpose because it's supposed to be a grand tourer or GT. The body roll is dialed out easily with thicker sway bars or coilovers, as many owners have done.
The skipping is now imperceptible...nice way to try and back track. You have no ground to stand on.
And don't even start to talk about modding the RX....because you can just as easily mod a Z to increase handling gains.
Admit you are loser...We already know it, so it's not you'd be surprising us with anything new.
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You assume they'd go against another moderator just because you've made a fool of yourself?
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Ken, I don't know if this is kosher or not, since you're a mod, but I want to admit to you that I am a SHITHEAD. Can anyone say my ego got the best of me?
thats pretty kosher.
04-19-2006, 06:06 PM
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You made some statements on the RX8 without actual personal experience. God, you had the car for 650 miles!.
Are you stomping your feet and crying while saying this?
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Originally Posted by Cog Neuro Sci
Ken, I don't know if this is kosher or not, since you're a mod, but you do understand that you are a SHITHEAD, don't you? Can anyone say "group think"?
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Ken, I don't know if this is kosher or not, since you're a mod, but you do understand that you are a SHITHEAD, don't you? Can anyone say "group think"?