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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Lady bought new in Feb for $13,xxx
Boyfriend bought her a new Charger and traded it in at a Chrysler dealership.
We bought with 1,400 miles on the clock for $11k OTD.

Got it mainly so our Mitsu GSX could stay home all day, awaiting the weekend. Additionally if my '03 PT GT needs any work done it can be down for more than a weekend, which is very nice.

Hoping for Toyota reliability and mpg. So far it looks like were getting 40 mpg.

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5 speed
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Convenience package with rear wiper, MP3/CD/AUX hookup
no tach
floor mats

So far its hella fun to drive. The seats are amazingly supportive - hopefully that wont fade with age. We had to drive it 5 hours home and does well for itself around town and on the highway. Interior is basic, but nice. The center dash takes some getting used to, especially at night. I kept thinking my headlights were off because the area in front of me was dark. Interior quality is nice - the pieces fit together perfectly - although the materials are to be expected. Shifting is kind of funny. It kind of rev matches for you, if that makes any sense. Ive stalled the stupid thing about 5 times so far, the fiance about the same. It weighs about 2200 lbs and with the 100hp DOHC engine, its pretty peppy. It fits two adults comfortably and has a bazillion stupid compartments for everything. Trunk is small, but enough for a quick trip to the store. The seats fold down and would be enough for a saturday shopping orgy, if necessary.

Why not a used civic or a fit? We couldnt find a decent civic with lower miles for our asking price. Its ridiclous the prices people want for a civic with 100k with no work done to it like timing belt, clutch, etc.

The Fit - we really like it. Cant find a used manual anywhere, let alone at the price we bought our Yaris. At 65 mph, the motor is around 3150 rpms - the yaris is at 2800. The Yaris weighs 200 lbs less. The fit, while rated the same as the yaris, is unable to pull the MPG as the Yaris on gassavers.org and similar forums. Theres a guy on the board that got 52 mpg in his Yaris.

If youre looking for a point A to point B car so you can park your fun toy on the weekend, this is definitely the car for you.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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what a tiny little car...

But like you said, it does the job as a Daily Driver. That thing must be scary on the highway at 80
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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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How stable is it on the freeway? Stock non-Si Civics even sway like like hell at 65+

Not my type of car either, but it looks like its serving its purpose for you very well.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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My friend and her husband just bought one, but it's a sedan I think.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by te3point5
what a tiny little car...

But like you said, it does the job as a Daily Driver. That thing must be scary on the highway at 80
Who the heck does 80 anymore?

Between gas prices and cops everywhere, I just rock the speed limit. Low and slow in the left lane.

The Yaris does well at 70 mph. Didnt have it above that, so I couldnt tell you if it got worse. We had our 1.3L rental in Venezuela we got up to 100 downhill - it was scary, but the roads were bad too so that didnt help. Havent had it in high winds either, but Id imagine it would sway. Even my PTC does sometimes.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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WTF? USA is getting that now? We've had that here for years now. Very popular.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Its cute! Interior shots?

Hopefully the interest rate on used was still pretty low compared to buying new?

Nice have a "beater" car, isnt it.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Nice writeup, and congrats on the purchase
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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WTF? USA is getting that now? We've had that here for years now. Very popular.
It's been here for a couple years already.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Its cute! Interior shots?

Hopefully the interest rate on used was still pretty low compared to buying new?

Nice have a "beater" car, isnt it.
Intrest rate was a little higher, but not worth another $2000 to buy new. Not to mention we try and pay cars off early anyway.

The turning radius on this thing. The boyfriend and I decided to turn last minute into a spot and when it made the turn effortlessly without having to do the 3 point turn, we both looked at each other like: That plus good mpg, ultra low emissions, no biggie is someone hits us, less insurance, lotsa stuff you dont think about that you begin to realize when you have a DD.

Not my pics, but its the same:


**I meant low and slow in the right lane**
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Congratulations on the new ride Saki! My neighbour bought one for her daughter a year ago and they like it a lot. How many MPG are you getting?
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SakiGT
Who the heck does 80 anymore?
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Old May 5, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Its cute! Interior shots?

Hopefully the interest rate on used was still pretty low compared to buying new?

Nice have a "beater" car, isnt it.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3821498&page=2
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Old May 5, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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I like it. Very cool.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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The eclipse is your weekend car?
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Old May 5, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Ha!

Damn those old wheels did look good. Ah well.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SakiGT
**I meant low and slow in the right lane**
I was going to have Zeroday yell at you
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Old May 5, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroday
The eclipse is your weekend car?
When you go from this:


To this:




You do whatever is required to keep it in nice shape.

Plus its a DSM. Hasnt left him stranded - but its gotten too close for comfort.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Ha!

Damn those old wheels did look good. Ah well.
You should give them an update....
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Old May 5, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
Congratulations on the new ride Saki! My neighbour bought one for her daughter a year ago and they like it a lot. How many MPG are you getting?
Not sure. We estimate 40 mpg so far, but even after the 5.5 hour trip home, a Saturday night out, and Sunday errands its still got 3 bars left.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Those Toyota,s have been here for a while. They are typical compacts here and compete against the Nissan March and Tiida, Honda Fit, and assorted small cars. The big thing here is getting them with a 660cc motor. Save huge come road tax time (This year, my Saber/TL sets me back $190, while a little compact is $75 or less).

And this Toyota is not even considered a small car here.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SakiGT
You should give them an update....

Ok you make it sound like i have an account on every forum.


You know me so well.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Nice pick up for the price....
A buddy of mine bought one and kept it for a month or so but got tired of the cut rate feel to it (his wife has a new X5 and MDX). I never rode in it (not really interested in it) but he swears that it was fun to drive too. Very tossable and light on its feet. He was loving the mileage too! He traded it in on a new Civic EX coupe instead...nice ride and almost as good on the gas mileage.

Congrats again
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Are you in Orlando? I am coming back up there in a week and I was told to protect my car from those damn bugs.
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Old May 7, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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Official numbers: 40.6mpg 50/50 driving

Screw you EPA estimates!
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Old May 7, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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bah...its nothing more than a sooped up miata!
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Old May 23, 2008 | 06:41 AM
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Little update:

80/20 driving mpg: 38

I should be able to determine 100% highway conditions this weekend. Hoping for 42ish

On a financing note: I guess the bank decided that a 2008 with 1,400 miles was brand new and gave me the new car intrest rate on my loan.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SakiGT
When you go from this:


To this:




You do whatever is required to keep it in nice shape.

Plus its a DSM. Hasnt left him stranded - but its gotten too close for comfort.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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^ Is it still true that the 99's dont suffer from crankwalk?
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Old May 23, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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The 4G63 has two variances: the 6 bolt and the 7 bolt. The 6 bolt had no crankwalk issues, which came in the early 1G DSMs (talons, eclipses, etc) and the Evos. The 7 bolts were the ones with crankwalk issues. Additionally, DSM owners are cheap bastards and would rather spend cash on mods than maintenance. When correctly maintained and tuned 7 bolts are just fine.

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Old May 23, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Scratch that. Egos have the 7 bolt too, Only the Evo I had the 6 bolt.

/owned by the DSM nazi
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Old May 23, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SakiGT
The 4G63 has two variances: the 6 bolt and the 7 bolt. The 6 bolt had no crankwalk issues, which came in the early 1G DSMs (talons, eclipses, etc) and the Evos. The 7 bolts were the ones with crankwalk issues. Additionally, DSM owners are cheap bastards and would rather spend cash on mods than maintenance. When correctly maintained and tuned 7 bolts are just fine.
Right I knew about the two variances.. but i thought that the 99's were especially sought after because they fixed the issue?

Sorry for the thread hijack!
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Have you gotten used to the dash yet ??
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Old May 24, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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that Yaris is about the size of my project car. once i get some money to build it.
a Smart car with either a CBR1000XX ,ZX-14,or Hayabusa engine.
Light+Rear wheel drive+small+high HP to weight ratio=
THE ULTIMATE DRIFTER.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Have you gotten used to the dash yet ??
Daytime theres no "getting used to it." Its just different.

At night sometimes its weird as you expect there to be some brightness directly in front of you, but there isnt.

So we had to take the boyfriends step dad to the airport with all of our luggage. 3 people, 2 suitcases, 4 dufflebags and a bookbag. No problem. It would have been easier with the 40/60 seats but just placing the dufflebags on the other rear seat worked too. I was surprised how much room I had in the backseat. I had just recently sat in the backseat of a Honda Fit and it was very close to that.

Rumor says the 4 door will be brought here in 2010, but who knows.

The boyfriend drove 80 mph and like a jerk throughout Miami and we only got 37.5 mpg
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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This model here is called the Vitz (more nonsensical engrish). And what I find amazing is that they make these a bit tall, so when you sit in them, it feels like a fair amount of room. Just my
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Nice car! I happen to like it a lot...I was considering a Yaris hatch or the Fit Sport after I sold the xBox, but ended up with the GTI. As much as I liked them both, I just couldn't see myself driving it...

I have a 2000 Camry LE V6 that I gave my driver to use as a chase car when picking up/delivering cars, but the gas is killing me (I spend at least $400-$600/month on gas between that car and my GTI for work), not to mention I seem to always have to put a few bucks into fixing it every few weeks. I'm in the processing of picking up an '08 Sentra 2.0 SL to give my driver to run around with to use as a chase car and picking up/delivering cars, and use for the occasional loaner car to my customers if needed. I chose to lease it, and it's "stoopid" cheap. It's going to be a 24 month lease with 15-17k miles per year for under $200 a month...Can't go wrong for a car with leather/sunroof/bluetooth/keyless ignition, plus it's supposed to be giving me 33mpg...hopefully it works out...
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Old May 27, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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At least it's a 5-speed, and your write up makes it appealing.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SakiGT
Rumor says the 4 door will be brought here in 2010, but who knows.
We've had the four door for quite a while now. Rare that Canada gets a car before US.

http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObje...2fintro%2ehtml
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