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Old May 16, 2010 | 06:34 AM
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A little help...Tahoe or Expedition

To make a long story short, I'm going to have to tow a 16' enclosed trailer with a combined weight of about 5,000 lbs one or twice a month. I need to get in to something to capable of towing, but also family friendly in the next day or two.
Anyone with ownership have any advice they can offer for or against either? Looking at late model low mileage units in the NY metro area NOW.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 06:38 AM
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My family has always had Ford Super Dutys to pull the horses with no problems so I would go with the Ford. That being said I love the styling of the new Tahoes so I'm really no help
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Old May 16, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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I use an Expedition to tow a car trailer and cars. It's been very reliable and trouble free. My only complaint is the rather poor fuel mileage.




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Old May 16, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Bro, New Tahoe. They are baller as phuck.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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Yeah I really don't see how people are judging vehicles based on a totally different vehicle (Super Duty) in Ford's lineup.

I'll say this though: Ford has the better truck for a three row vehicle. If you need only towing and two rows, I'd go Tahoe.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Wifey drives an 07 Tahoe LTZ. Now has 37k. Awesome vehicle.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Tahoe. BRO.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MyCarIsntInMyWifesName
Yeah I really don't see how people are judging vehicles based on a totally different vehicle (Super Duty) in Ford's lineup.

I'll say this though: Ford has the better truck for a three row vehicle. If you need only towing and two rows, I'd go Tahoe.
Just saying we have gone through probably 7 ford trucks over the years and they do trucks well. Wouldn't buy a ford car although they are looking better lately
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Old May 16, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Just saying we have gone through probably 7 ford trucks over the years and they do trucks well. Wouldn't buy a ford car although they are looking better lately
I have Ford trucks for commercial farm use. They're probably worked harder than what most people do with their trucks, and overall they've been very good. Tried a GM and Dodge at one time, and although both worked reasonably well, they were both traded for Fords which have been much more trouble free.



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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by teranfon
I have Ford trucks for commercial farm use. They're probably worked harder than what most people do with their trucks, and overall they've been very good. Tried a GM and Dodge at one time, and although both worked reasonably well, they were both traded for Fords which have been much more trouble free.



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Exactly. We have a lot of people that come to the farm that use trucks hard and while the hay guy and the blacksmith both switched to Dodges they quickly switched back. The blacksmith talked the Ram up but traded it within six months because of the problems he had with it. He was not happy about it especially after putting an expensive custom back on it.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Didn't the 2009 or 2008 Tahoes have a 6.2-liter option? The hell with reliabilty; POWER!
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Old May 16, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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I may also the the Armada in to the mix. I would almost feel more comfortable going Nissan, but I have NO history with Nissan V8's
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Old May 16, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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Powertrain is excellent, the rest of the Armada is a POS. They only have like 97 cubic feet of room behind the first row or something. It's pitiful for its size.

Sequoia FTW!
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Old May 16, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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I've owned both a Ford Expedition as well as currently own a GMC Yukon (same as Tahoe) I would go with the Tahoe and not just for style points.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 01:14 AM
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tahoe would make a sweet bro truck
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Old May 17, 2010 | 06:40 AM
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Ok, have to go pre owned and have to do it today.
Have it narrowed down to, and all in the same price range:

07 Lexus GX Certified 49k miles
07 Eddie Bauer 34k miles
07 Navigator 32k miles
07 Sequoia Ltd 34K miles
07 Infiniti QX56 38k miles
07 Denali 19k miles (no nav)

My head is spinning
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Old May 17, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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IMHO and in order:


Denali
Navigator
Sequoia
Eddie Bauer
QX56
GX470

I like the GX the most but it isn't in the league of the others as a tow rig.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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The QX will have the strongest feeling engine in that group period. That V8 from Nissan is one TORQUE monster. I use to have a Nissan Titan, and at work we had Ford F150s with the 5.4L, and the Titan could pull the large trailers way easier than the Ford's could. Also QX isn't small at all and has plenty of hauling space inside. I know two people who had Denali's and got rid of them because of many issues and the cost of repairs. I would get a Toyota, Ford, Nissan over a GM.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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Oo, I messed up. QX56 should go ahead of the Ford.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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Turns out the Denali had more hp and torque, plus a 6spd automatic and lots of goodies as well. The QX was used up and the Armada was way over priced. The Eddie Bauer was an 06, not an 07. It had a 4spd auto, and seemed way under powered. Acceleration was poor with no load, so I was concerned about trying to pull 5,000lbs plus. It did have heated AND cooled seats which would have been great, but no blue tooth or ipod connector which come in handy on the long trips. The Lexus just seemed wrong for a vehicle I was towing equipment to construction sites with, so I had to pass.

Winner...Denali
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Old May 17, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Hmmm, race a Denali vs a Titan or QX56, and you will be surprised to see that numbers do not mean everything when the Titan/QX will leave it in the dust.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
Hmmm, race a Denali vs a Titan or QX56, and you will be surprised to see that numbers do not mean everything when the Titan/QX will leave it in the dust.
Can't race a truck with an SUV. Maybe you meant Armada?

And the Denali is the quicker of the two. Even magazines place the Denali as low as 6.2 0-60 and 94 mph in the quarter mile.

Plus the Denali's interior is way better and it's quieter inside.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MyCarIsntInMyWifesName
Can't race a truck with an SUV. Maybe you meant Armada?

And the Denali is the quicker of the two. Even magazines place the Denali as low as 6.2 0-60 and 94 mph in the quarter mile.

Plus the Denali's interior is way better and it's quieter inside.
I was mentioned the QX which is a Armada.

Really? Again numbers means nothing.

Denali vs Armada

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drtBgakNyzk

Not a Denali but a Tahoe Z71

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0s-Vnf9G48

And just for grins...don't underestimate that engine in them.

SRT 10 vs Titan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4ekRNnDUko

Duramax Stage 3 vs Titan

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0272883107416#

Cummings vs Titan

http://www.streetfire.net/video/tita...iew_127969.htm
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Old May 18, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
I was mentioned the QX which is a Armada.

Really? Again numbers means nothing.

Denali vs Armada

Not a Denali but a Tahoe Z71

And just for grins...don't underestimate that engine in them.

SRT 10 vs Titan

Duramax Stage 3 vs Titan

Cummings vs Titan
You kept saying QX/Titan which didn't make sense. Armada/QX would've been better; I'm anal can you tell?


Course it isn't just about numbers. The VK56 is a pretty under-rated engine as far as output is concerned.

The VK56 is a superb engine. I believe even in my first post I said it was a great powertrain setup but the rest of the truck was meh.

So what you've provided is one video. The 2008 Tahoe didn't offer the L92 so the Tahoe video just proves the 5.3L is slower....? The video at the top has the Denali winning at the end it appears. It looks like out of the hole in that race on that day the QX was quicker but once the power boils on the Denali tiptoes away.

Even so one video doesn't prove either truck is quicker.

A quick breeze on reviews and comparos of MotorTrend and C/D confirm my thoughts: I don't see any consistent QX or Armada times of more than 88-89 in the quarter and I see consistent over 90 mph quarters for the Denali, more in the 92-94 range.
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Originally Posted by MyCarIsntInMyWifesName
You kept saying QX/Titan which didn't make sense. Armada/QX would've been better; I'm anal can you tell?


Course it isn't just about numbers. The VK56 is a pretty under-rated engine as far as output is concerned.

The VK56 is a superb engine. I believe even in my first post I said it was a great powertrain setup but the rest of the truck was meh.

So what you've provided is one video. The 2008 Tahoe didn't offer the L92 so the Tahoe video just proves the 5.3L is slower....? The video at the top has the Denali winning at the end it appears. It looks like out of the hole in that race on that day the QX was quicker but once the power boils on the Denali tiptoes away.

Even so one video doesn't prove either truck is quicker.

A quick breeze on reviews and comparos of MotorTrend and C/D confirm my thoughts: I don't see any consistent QX or Armada times of more than 88-89 in the quarter and I see consistent over 90 mph quarters for the Denali, more in the 92-94 range.
I am not going to continue and argue as I have seen what both trucks can do and know the Titan/Armada has the stronger engine and is faster.
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
I am not going to continue and argue as I have seen what both trucks can do and know the Titan/Armada has the stronger engine and is faster.
Kay, because same for me.

OP, did you actually bite on the Denali or not?
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
I was mentioned the QX which is a Armada.

Really? Again numbers means nothing.

Denali vs Armada

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drtBgakNyzk
the Denali won
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Old May 18, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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Uh, yes...I bought the Denali. As I said above, the QX was used up. In other words, beat up, not taken care of...crapped. The Armada was over priced for the miles and options and the Denali, well



I beat the dealer up pretty well. It has the 6.2l and the 6 spd auto with only 19k miles. I walked out with a 3 year GM full warranty for just over $30k. I couldn't not but it.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Sounds good. Glad you got the deal you wanted. I thought they had that 10 year warranty?
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ SHAWD
Uh, yes...I bought the Denali. As I said above, the QX was used up. In other words, beat up, not taken care of...crapped. The Armada was over priced for the miles and options and the Denali, well



I beat the dealer up pretty well. It has the 6.2l and the 6 spd auto with only 19k miles. I walked out with a 3 year GM full warranty for just over $30k. I couldn't not but it.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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I do fancy that color.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 04:23 AM
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bad camera phone pics. crappy color showing, or maybe it's my monitor? It's a steel blue
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Originally Posted by MyCarIsntInMyWifesName
Powertrain is excellent, the rest of the Armada is a POS. They only have like 97 cubic feet of room behind the first row or something. It's pitiful for its size.

Sequoia FTW!
I was wondering why the Sequoia or even a V8 4Runner wasn't an option
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In comparing everything available in the time frame I had, the Denali was the best value for the money...and performance for the task. I could turn around right now and sell it for more than I paid if I had to, and I can tow without a problem
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Love it but I'm not sure I'm feeling the wood grain, looks odd for some reason
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bad pic, looks better in person. The fake wood is really dark and blends alot more
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Eh, while I love the Tahoe/Denali twins, I'm thinking GMC didn't do too good a job on the front and rear vs. Chevy. I saw a white Tahoe at our last Texas Fair with the chrome wire grille inserts and it looked hot! Very classy and understated. The GMC, eh, not so much. It may be the "googly eyes" look of the headlights and the Ebay tail lights? The Chevy, with the blackout headlight housings and neat grille design looks timeless. Just an opinion! The OP's new vehicle is still hot, though! I'd take one in a heartbeat...


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Old May 20, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Absolutely, I love the Tahoe front end...don't really dig the Dinali front end. But then again, I drive a 4G TL!

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