4.6L 380hp and 8 spd automatic...

making its way close to the S-class and put the RL way too far behind that it looks like the RL is a year 2000 design

now Honda must need a V8 with VTEC to compete, or else the RL will be one of the worst selling luxury car of all time

 

http://www.canadiandriver.com/roadtest/07ls460.htm

 

for what it's worth, although Acura has been spreding this rumor for quite a while, the RL is supposed to get a V8 and a RWD platform with optional SH-AWD in 2010 for their 5 year redesign.

 

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=116509

Wow...

 

It does look like it will be a technology tour de force for Toyota/Lexus. The only problem is, will you spend $70K+ for a car that still looks completely anonymous and derivative? Yes, it is a nice looking car, but it stops right there. It critically lacks the distinctive prestige and luxurious styling of the high end Mercedes and BMW. If I were to spend that much money on a car, I want to command attention!!! LOL! Also, it seems that it will be more of a chauffeur driven car than a driver's dream.

 

Lexus LS460 = new benchmark for this segment.

 

Honda has never competed in this market. There presence in this segment had always been a joke.

And did anyone look at that engine shot? Everything is covered, its like 2 hoods.

 

very nice looking to boot.

 

I love it when you say this. :gheylaugh:

But like they said, RL is not in this segment. Gotta compare it to the GS/530/M35. IMO

 

nice car.. that wheel well looks like it can fit 24s!

 

Mercedes-Benz S-class = still the benchmark for this segment

An engaging drive is necessary to win...

 

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/i-spotted-new-ls460-atlanta-pic-343070/

 

 

The LS seems like a Maybach for 1/5th of the price.

Far less flashy too, but some owners like that. I know I wouldnt want to flaunt my wealth if I were in a position to own such a car.

 

 

Maybach doesn't look like a half a million dollar car too

and what's the best about the car is the fuel econ with 19/27 and it's 4400lb, it's about the same mileage with my TL

but still...the LS is too finess looking for my taste...not bold enough

 

Of course, it's the only car in its class that can parallel park itself.

 

Even the E55 AMG is not known to be an "engaging drive"....and that is a clearly billed as a world class sports sedan. Recap: This is the full size luxury segment NOT, the sports sedan segment.

If one wants an "engaging drive" to win then, one needs to purchase a sedan from Bayerische Motoren Werke AG.

 

woody paige in the around the horn said 'real man don't drive lexus'

 

You are just too funny! You know, before I bought my TSX, I was looking around and I did not even set foot into the Lexus showroom. NONE of their products then interested me. I must say that their IS is quite attractive now (at least on paper, but all the critics are still disappointed by the performance and if I spend that much money it would be a 3 series) and the GS is also quite nice now (again if I spend THAT much money I probably would get a 5 series or E class)... and I am not senior enough to consider the LS! LOL

 

The RL was never in the running to begin with, IMHO

 

There was one year, I forgot if it was 03 or 04, that the LS430 was rated as the best Luxury car in the world

http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...ticleId=296664

So I say forget about benchmark.

 

still need to see this thing on 20's or 22's. otherwise its so looking

 

So then the drive of a Lincoln Towncar would be adequate for any prestige luxury sedan?

An engaging drive does not equal race-ready performance focused. Engaging drive means that the vehicle provides for that connection to the road (like a BMW or Mercedes provides). Lexus vehicles have typically been lacking in this feel; but who knows...maybe they have been able to create that feel in this iteration of the LS.

 

^ The Edmunds first drive article doesn't seem to think so (which is not surprising). Even with its level of success, I think Lexus is still too hesitant to let go of that smooth ride it's been known for just for the sake of keeping up with the sportier nature of the Germans.

 

Hot car, it will sell well. But the new S-Class is a whole lot better.