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INFINITI FTMFW!



O BTW! the fucking bimmer overheated again

 

:ibjesalpicusandalltheotherbmwownerskeelsecstac:

Oh look, it's the same color Jesal got too

 

 

As much as I like any car manufacturer to create a car that is better than the 3 series, I could not find where in that comparo the Infiniti deserves the win other than its lower price. The Bimmer was faster, it has a better interior, has a better exterior, it got better gas mileage, and as they said neither car out-handled the other. And regarding the over-heating, BMW didn't put an oil cooler on some of the early cars, but the newer ones have it, so I don't really consider that to be a problem.

 

It's all a matter of opinions. It comes down to who THEY think is the winner.All I know is that I did not do a mistake with mine.

 

I'd take the 3 series coupe every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

G37 is IMO.

And so much for C&D's slow G37 1/4 mile.

 

C'mon, do you think they would sell as many magazines if they wrote "G37 vs. 335: Still Not Quite There"?

 

I give credit where its due and the G37 seems to be an excellent car for the money. I just dont love the looks of it and have no desire to want it.

Kinda looks girly compared to the old G35 coupe.

 

Summary:

BMW is...

Lighter
Faster
Better balanced
Nicer Interior options (more options available)
Better MPG
Less CO2 emissions...

yet the G wins?



I don't have a thing for either car, but after reading that article I can't help but laugh at the dramatic drama queen front page. Then when you actually read their review you see the BMW is better.

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I agree that the headline is typical magazine drama queen material, the G37 won because it is cheaper and about 9.5/10th or a complete wash in most categories compared to the BMW and the overheating was a notch against the BMW.

 

Kinda like how C&D said that the 328i beat the G35 when the G35 beat the shit outta the 328 by WIDEEE margins and C&D simply said it was due to the 328 having "soul" or something like that lol.

 

I cant seem to open the the article but im guessing they tested a pre-march production 335i with automatic, correct?

Those had cooling issues since it was missing a air-to-oil cooler. Just saying since they dont all overheat.

 

Yeah, that cover is a joke........there is no way I would get a G37 over a 335.

I don't even need to test drive the G to make that statement.

 

hahahhahaha... I smell $$$... mmmmmmm

 

They were both Auto's. Nice catch.

 

when doing comparos you should always use autos... :lol:

 

With cars like these, auto's are rarely used. That must have been all that was available.

 

Why? If you actually read the conclusion, it was an extremely close decision as both cars perform almost identically in all categories with a small advantage towards the BMW, but a large price advantage for the G37.

If money was not factored in, I'm sure the conclusion would have been the other way, but the fact remains both are fantastic cars and you can't go wrong with either.

 

If the G37 looks nearly as bad as the Altima coupe does in person (seen 2 in the past 2 days) I'd actually consider going German if I had to choose between the two of them.

 

 

cuz the G37 looks like ass?

 

Thats because Car and Driver is completely biased towards the BMW 3 series. Hell, BMW could make the 3 series out of shit and C&D would still declare BMW the winner of a comparison.

 

i like the g37
i like the way it looks
i wanna drive it to see. the thing is better gas mileage, less CO2 emmisions and faster is pretty much perfect IMO.

















i still want a GTO

 

my friend just bought a 335i for 50k .....335 costs ALOT more than G37, espeically when you start adding all the options.

I would love a TT Inline 6 but it s just way too expensive for what it is. (well, it s a BMW)

The fact is, it doesnt have LSD , i have to have LSD with RWD
BMW interior is .... it was good 10 years ago

and the biggest complain is i cant tell the difference betweeen 328 and 335 until i see the exhaust.

 

2008 Infiniti G37 Road Test

A lesson in seduction.

by TCC Team (2007-06-25)

by Rex Roy


Diving into a right-left-right downhill combination at Barber Motorsports Park just outside of Birmingham, Alabama , lots of things snap into focus. First, the 14-inch front rotors on the 2008 G37 Sport really burn off speed in a hurry. Second, the entire package is well balanced and just plain easy to drive quickly and smoothly. Third, the 2007 BMW 335i coupe provided for comparison may have some advantages over the Infiniti, but you'll notice more of the BMW's deficiencies (rather than advantages) on the track.

The last thing: it's nice to take turns. As in, let someone else drive after a few hours. They'll appreciate it.

Not out of whole cloth

Infiniti introduced their G35 coupe back in 2002 as a 2003 model. Those with a keen mind for the ephemeral recall it was introduced with its four-door counterpart the G35 sedan, and that the market warmed to the coupe as a more mature alternative to its shorter-wheelbase two-seat cousin, the Nissan 350Z. Sales for Infiniti's 2+2 regularly outpaced seasoned competitors such as the Audi TT, the Mercedes C-Class coupes, and the G's arch nemesis, the BMW 3-Series coupe.

At the 2008 G37's introduction, it became clear that Infiniti wanted to improve the G, but not stray too far from their winning formula. There's a reason why the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," is an old saying.

In a disclosure that meant to give the press a peek inside the minds of development engineers, the Infiniti team referred to the G37 as "The Seductress." Everything they did was designed to make the new coupe sexier and more … ahem … capable of plying her trade. Thankfully, no collagen or silicone was used in the revamp.

A little more G-whiz

Infiniti offers three different flavors of G37; the base, the Journey, and the Sport. Following the pattern Infiniti employed when they introduced their new G35 sedan earlier this year, the team added more power and technology to their new coupe. The 2008 G rides on an improved version of the FM platform utilizing the same 112.2-inch wheelbase as the original.

The chassis itself it stiffer (by 36 percent), as are the front and rear sub-frames (45 percent) on to which the suspension components mount. Up front are double wishbones and a multi-link arrangement brings up the rear. Both ends get stabilizer bars. At the corners are some massive disc brakes. Base models get 13-inch platters all around, while 14-inch (front) and 13.8-inch units are used on the Sport 6MT variant. Covering the discs are aluminum 18-inch rims on the base, and 19-inch rims for the Sport 6MT. Directing all of this high technology is a rack-and-pinion steering gear with electric, as opposed to hydraulic, assist.

The old G35 coupe's V-6 was no boat anchor-it made 275 horsepower. Infiniti could have taken the easy way and just used the all-new engine they designed for the 2007 G35 sedan. But they didn't. They went bigger. The 2008 coupe's motor, while based on the 2007 sedan's, got an increase in stroke of 0.2 liters. Horsepower now reaches 330 at 7,000 rpm. This is 24 more than the 2007 G35 sedan, and a full 55 more than the outgoing 2007 G35 coupe. Redline for the 2008 coupe's V-6 VQ37VHR engine is 7,500 rpm. Torque peaks at 5,200 with a twisting force of 270 lb-ft.

Along with the requisite overhead cams and four valves per cylinder, the 3.7-liter V-6 features variable valve timing and variable valve lift. An interesting technical fact is that with variable valve lift, there is no need for a traditional throttle body to modulate the air coming into the engine. The varying throw of intake valves now handle all that. (That's along way from butterfly valves on carburetors, eh?)

Two transmissions back the 3.7-liter V-6; a five-speed automatic and a six-speed manual. While neither sets new benchmarks for gears, gadgetry or gimmicks, they both work well. Compared to earlier G-coupes, the six-speed's linkage has been improved for smoother, more accurate throws. The automatic received new electronic controls that help the box shift smarter, especially on the track where the downshift rev-matching helps keep the chassis balanced and the engine in the power band.

While the 2008 G37's chassis already meets high standards for spec-sheet gurus, Infiniti added the option of 4-Wheel Active Steer (4WAS). Intended to add stability during quick maneuvers at highway speeds, the 4WAS turns the rear wheels in-phase (the same direction) as the fronts up to 1 degree. For most drivers, the addition of 4WAS will be something to brag about while bench racing because the effect is something most people won't ever genuinely notice.

Putting the lateral G in the G37

We concentrated our time in the well-equipped Journey with an automatic and 4WAS, and a Sport 6MT non-4WAS. We accumulated seat time in both models over public roads and on the road course at Barber Motorsports Park . While Infiniti offers much infotainment for those so inclined, we were more interested in the smooth exhaust note and the suppleness that the suspension exhibited over varying road surfaces. Over the road both cars are quiet and quick.

Then things heated up on the track. Getting familiar with the technically-drawn track required a good dozen laps, then we could actually pay attention to the nuances of the new G. First, the full-equipped Journey was smooth…like, Sade on the rocks smooth. While the car acquitted itself well with the transmission in Drive, using the Sport mode improved the automatic's performance-downshifting quickly when braking, holding gear through corners, and upshifting higher in the rev range when exiting. The system also provides paddle shifters that allowed drivers to easily click-shift quickly and with a welcome absence of roughness.

Handling mimics the auto gearbox, quick and smooth. Transitions through corners are well managed and there's no bobbing and weaving as you stop accelerating and begin braking or vise versa. The chassis feels quite neutral, and especially with the 4WAS, even really provocative driving could not cause oversteer. Engineers were pleased when we voiced our inability to kick the tail out, noting that most G37s won't see track duty, and that this type of chassis tuning helps keep overzealous drivers from getting into trouble on the street. The 4WAS intervenes in a subtle manner only when the chassis is provoked, so you'll know somebody's lying when they say they can feel how this technology helps them go faster.

Compared to the BMW 335i with an automatic, the G37 performed more smoothly and with more intuition. One could feel the BMW's extra torque, but the G's automatic worked better, as did its chassis.

Our favorite ride of the day was the G37 Sport 6MT. Its manual gearbox was immediately comfortable, and we never missed a shift. The extra gear helped increase speeds, and without the 4WAS, the chassis was more tossable … not such a cautious dance partner. With this car, Infiniti's estimate of mid 5-second 0-60 times seems entirely believable. For the record, the 6MT has an electronically limited top speed of 155 mph.

An interesting comparison to the Sport 6MT was a previous generation G35 coupe (manual) that Infiniti also brought to the track. By comparison, the older G felt less sophisticated and refined. But that car's less insulated steering provided far better feel. With fewer electronic controls, the older chassis felt freer to perform. If prospects for the new G37 want the feel of the old model, they can always turn to the Nissan Z.

Come hither

The new G37 is certainly as good looking as the original, but offers a more refined experience … kind of like dating a 30-something compared to a 20-something. One should find the G37 to be an excellent daily driver and a fine occasional track-day car. With these character traits and a nearly identical MSRP, the new G37 should easily seduce enough buyers to remain the top seller in the segment.



2008 Infiniti G37

Base Price: $34,500-$35,600 (estimated)

Engine: 3.7-liter V-6, 330 hp/270 lb-ft

Drivetrain: Five-speed automatic or six-speed manual, rear-wheel drive

Length x width x height: 183.1 x 71.7 x 54.7 in

Wheelbase: 112.2 in

Curb weight: 3668 lb (G37 Sport with six-speed manual)

Fuel economy (EPA city/hwy): 18/25 mpg (G35 estimate, G37 figures not yet available)

Safety equipment: Dual front, side, and curtain airbags; anti-lock brakes, tire pressure monitoring system, Vehicle Dynamic Control stability system, first aid kit

Major standard equipment: HID headlamps, leather seating surfaces, eight-way power driver seat, four-way power passenger seat, air conditioning with automatic temperature control; remote keyless entry; keyless start; rear-window defroster; steering wheel radio controls; power windows/locks/mirrors; AM/FM/CD/MP3/XM audio system; cruise control

Warranty: Three years/36,000 miles

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...84.A12512.html

 

Looks like all the reviews so far have been good for the g37

 

err that cant be right, is it?

 

 

Warranty Info. is in the bottom right corner of this pick per Motor Trend.

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Personally, I like both cars. But, why is the G such a porker?

 

holy shit.. it weighs almost as much as a 3000GT VR-4!!! WTF???? whats it made of, lead?? no wonder its traps are so slow... if it was decent weight with 330hp, it could threaten 110 with some race gas... pathetic.

 

Another thing, why are people talking like the G37 is the deal of the century, compared to a 335? Do you not think a loaded G37 will hit close to 45K out the door? While a 335 goes for $50k something? Wow, deal of the century.

 

I'm willing to bet a loaded G37 will be less than $45k. A loaded 2007 G35 sedan is only $39k and you can negotiate down to $37k. I think a loaded G37 won't be more than $42k. A 335 with same options is $50k.

 

Design is simple almost to a fault, but that aside the overall quality is better than the Infiniti....assuming its anything like the 07 G35 sedan.

Looked at it real close and while improved over the previous G, the plastics and overall tightness are not up to BMW standards....my buddy agreed.

You get what you pay for.

 

A few things:

1. Motor Trend is a horribly written, pitiful excuse for toilet tissue.
2. Enthusiasts don't buy slushboxes.
3. The BMW outperforms the Nissan in every category.
4. Both cars are overweight.
5. Neither car will turn many heads.
6. BMW handling will invariably trump just about anything in the same class.
7. When the Nissan comes out, you won't be able to spit outside without hitting one.


8. My car is 10x more fun than either!

 

Other than saving about $5-8K, the G37 is worth it's price. You can make the G37 look good by adding a body kit, tints, and changing the rims, then it'll be really hot!

I would personally take either, but Infiniti has come a long way in relatively short time around (5-6 yrs) period to take on BMW. Acura please take notes!!

 

Amen to that. Nissan was in the crapper less than a decade ago. Honda/Acura should learn something and build a few fun cars again.

 

3668lbs... first thing I looked for when they released the specs for the 6spd sport...

That's over 200lbs more then my CL... I don't understand why i can weigh so much either... but with the increase in HP, most people won't even look at the vehicle weight...

I'd probably go with a striped 335 before I got a loaded g37...

<--- waiting for the 1 series...

 

woah...it weighs more than the CL?
Is that possible?
How about the weight of the 335?

 

if you can get a G37 for between 35-40 (closer to 35), thats a pretty good deal, imo.