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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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infiniti of manhattan try to rip me off

ok this he story i have an 2003 acura 3.2tl with 115789 miles and went to infiniti dealership in manhattan for a trade in on 2006 fx35 $22,000 with 23,345 miles so i go there and the take forever to tell me the value of my car 1st the manger his name max comes says ur car is wroth 1500 dollars i said u crazy than he said hold on let me go check other wholeseller than he comes back after 15 mins and says 4,000 dollars max thats all. than i walk away . now iam trying to sell privatly ...what you guys think i should do. thanx alot guys ...thanx in advance heres my tl btw<a href="http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/jimmy1122/?action=view&current=IMG_0004.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/jimmy1122/IMG_0004.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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$1500?!! that's pretty damn insulting.

you're doing the right thing by selling it yourself. clean it up real good, advertise, and you shouldn't have too much trouble selling it.

just out of curiosity how much are you going to ask for it?
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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yeaa i know right its in good condition i d k i think around 9k what do u guys think i should ask for it???
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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I'd say 4k is 2/3 of the min trade in value and that's fine as long as you take 2/3 of your asking price, 14,520. See how insulted they are.

Here is the KBB trade in
value using 10023 as the zip:

Excellent $7,325

Good $6,625

Fair $5,435

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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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sounds like a fair asking price. good luck with the sale!
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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thanx alot guys you guys are the best. over at infintifx.org i onnly got few answer i guess not alot of members yea i just put on the craglist and 1 guy call me to pay cash for it 9k thats good right thanx alot
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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this is about the worst part of the new car buying experience. for me, before i go into dealing, i will never tell them i want to trade in my car. i will ask them the trade in later on or go to carmax.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Is the hood popped open in that picture or does that car have front end body damage?
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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Wholesale value for the car in IMMACULATE condition is only a little over $5,000. You seem like a real professional photographer from the look of that photo but it doesn't look so immaculate to me.

e30cabrio, dealers do NOT use KBB as a guide, the numbers are pretty inflated. In my opinion, to get a very close wholesale number using KBB is by rating the car in "fair" condition, in which you got $5,435. Galves (what most dealers in the area use) shows $5,200, close enough.

Aside from that, the price they offered you for the FX is WAY below invoice price. It could be that they lowballed your trade to make up for the "STEAL" of a deal they gave you on the FX. Lastly, I can almost guarantee you that the $22k price is based on the requirement that you MUST finance the car from them, in which this is their opportunity to bang you out on the finance rate, which is how they would ultimately be making their money on you. As a matter of fact, I just noticed it on their website, looks professionally written, too... "This vehicle is being offered for sale based on $2,995.00 down payment, whereas the remaining balance must be financed through dealer by means of reatail installement contract. All applicable local and state taxes plus deallr fees may apply. " It also shows in the specs of a car i'm looking at right now, "Additional Features***MUST BE FINANCED*** LN58**180"

Sooooo...Good luck!
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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dealers are jerks.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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My coworker and I were just talking about our car buying experiences this afternoon. I was trying to trade in my 1995 Nissan 240SX for a 2004 Civic Si (in 2004). The dealership offered me $1000 for my 240SX. The car was in awesome condition with a few mods on it. I told them that was a terrible offer. They asked me how much I think I could get for it and I told them $4000. They laughed in my face and said have a good day. I parked the 240 on a busy street near my place and a week later I sold it for $4000. Needless to say I didn't go back to that dealership to buy my Civic.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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now i'm nervous how much a car dealer will give for my 04 TSX when the time comes to trade it in. i might as well just go to carmax or try to sell it on my own somewhere.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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aside from the experience with the Infiniti dealership... hope you get one soon... and let me know if you wanna join the FX forum that I belong to :wink:
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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i'm anxiously awaiting the release of the 09 FX35 and I want to test drive it.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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psh...

I got 5k for my 01 CL-S with 168,000 about a month ago.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
i'm anxiously awaiting the release of the 09 FX35 and I want to test drive it.
the new FX35 is suppose to be... almost as fast as a stock FX45
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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Was that Flemish?

And since when is this section for ranting?

So you got lowballed. Welcome to the world. Happens all the time. Man up.

And the $9k Craigslist offer ... Good god I don't know where to start with that one.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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ok and your mad why????

a 2003 with 115K miles?
A TLP?
In NYC?
Trade in quote from a dealer in Manhattan?
A piss poor economy?
A Flooded used car market?
Good luck with trying to sell it. I don't think you'll get $9K.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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to the last two posts...
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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No chance you will get $9K. If you do, then you are "da man."

I think the price for the FX is very fair. That could be why the trade in is so low. Try to sell it privately for about $5K. Also, try taking it to a different Infiniti dealership and see if they have a similar FX.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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ok and your mad why????

a 2003 with 115K miles?
A TLP?
In NYC?
Trade in quote from a dealer in Manhattan?
A piss poor economy?
A Flooded used car market?
Good luck with trying to sell it. I don't think you'll get $9K.

+ no more transmission warranty. Good luck getting 5K FSBO.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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thanx for the opinions yea the car hood is open yea i know i its car value is low. but i got 3 calls for 9k and lets see how it goes they will come this weekend. yea fx35 was good price.
is300eater- yea i joined alredy i think your there too is it infinitifx.org

thnax guys for ur help ...........
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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how much more would a 2007 FX35 be?
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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i dont know problly more like colse to 30 or more
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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is300eater- yea i joined alredy i think your there too is it infinitifx.org
www.infinitiscene.com > www.infinitifx.org
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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oooo ok nice i just joined there... hopefully by end of next month i can get into fx35 problly o7 or08
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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oooo ok nice i just joined there... hopefully by end of next month i can get into fx35 problly o7 or08
what's your user name there? I'm "trainerKEN"
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by acura tl 06
i dont know problly more like colse to 30 or more
that's a lot diff in price for just between 2006 and 2007
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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heh thats not too bad.
i went to trade my car in at ciocca honda to see how much i could get for trade in.....this was after i went to 2 dealerships who both offered me $3,000.
well i went to ciocca and I basically laughed in their face......they gave me $500! thats not even enough for a ps3!
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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ok this he story i have an 2003 acura 3.2tl with 115789 miles and went to infiniti dealership in manhattan for a trade in on 2006 fx35 $22,000 with 23,345 miles so i go there and the take forever to tell me the value of my car 1st the manger his name max comes says ur car is wroth 1500 dollars i said u crazy than he said hold on let me go check other wholeseller than he comes back after 15 mins and says 4,000 dollars max thats all. than i walk away . now iam trying to sell privatly ...what you guys think i should do. thanx alot guys ...thanx in advance heres my tl btw<a href="http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/jimmy1122/?action=view&current=IMG_0004.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/jimmy1122/IMG_0004.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
nice TL!

it looks like mine! Keep your TL, and enjoy it, is my best advise. That's what I'm doing. I've been to infiniti dealerships in downtown chicago, and they were real D**ks! Someone should let those fools know, that they are selling nissan's! Speaking of nissan, why don't you buy a nissan morano?
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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yeaa bro thanx alot ....thanx guys again yea i would keep it but i need the extra space... morano i dont like iam an dmv inspection inspector so i get drive all kind of cars dunt like the morano becuse it is bassed of front wheel and it doesnt look too good like the fx35
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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this is why i'm not going to sell my car. i've gone this far w/ it and i might as well use it as a second car someday
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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yeah, so you'll put it on liability only then right?
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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ummm nooo fulll why u askin that lol thanx for opinions anyway
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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actually i was asking SG81 that question.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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+1

I am also a former TL-s owner that transitioned to FX35.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 01:46 AM
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acura tl 06, just curious... the one you were lookin' at, does it have 18" or 20" wheels? Try gettin' 20s if you can... they look soooooo much better, unless you plan on gettin' aftermarket wheels right away, then it doesn't really matter...

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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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According to KBB a 06 FX35 with 23K should retail at about $30000. If they are selling it for $22,000 it shows you howmuch KBB is really worth.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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oo thanx is300 eater yea i would buy aftermarket wheels and i was wondering y is rwd so hard to find here in new york i cant find nowhere i dunt want the extra awd weight .......

blacklabel yeaa----------------- but theres a catch for it this vehicle is being offered for sale based on $2,995.00 down payment, whereas the remaining balance must be financed through dealer by means of reatail installement contract. All applicable local and state taxes plus deallr fees may apply. " It also shows in the specs of a car i'm looking at right now, "Additional Features***MUST BE FINANCED*** LN58**180"
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