Is Infiniti > Acura?
#81
Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
My biggest qualm about a brand raising prices just to make their cars seem better/more luxurious is that in order to raise prices, they would also have to be doing something different (adding RWD or more features) in order to justify the increase. Acura can't just suddenly raise prices just because they feel like it, and not change their products. People (especially ones here on AZ) will be able to tell they are just posers and haven't changed their products at all. There has to be justification for a sizable price increase or consumers will just see right through it.
Look at how man E36 318's you see on the road, 90%+ being driven by posers, I would take a new civic any day of the week over an older 318, but then you don't have the cache of saying "I drive a BMW", which is what luxury brand recognition is all about.
#82
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Sure you can say they are posers, but if Acura wanna improve their whole overall image, they will just have to join these so called "poser/overpriced" luxury auto makers. otherwise Acura will just be another Honda...
Will they sell a lot of cars? no doubt.. because ppl who wanna buy Accord, Altimas will look at TSX, TL as well..
and it is a good thing... and a bad thing.
Will they sell a lot of cars? no doubt.. because ppl who wanna buy Accord, Altimas will look at TSX, TL as well..
and it is a good thing... and a bad thing.
#84
Is Infiniti > Acura? but it's only based on my personal opinion, not overall sales, or what the interior styling is. I'm actually getting rid of my 03 CL-S pretty soon for an 07 FX.
I have an Acura, but I also have an 03 G35 6MT (and a Hummer H3, but that doesn't really apply in this thread ) in my driveway and I must say that I really like Infiniti's interior, and their seats are definitely more comfortable than Acura's.
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They're getting rid of the RDX already?
I have an Acura, but I also have an 03 G35 6MT (and a Hummer H3, but that doesn't really apply in this thread ) in my driveway and I must say that I really like Infiniti's interior, and their seats are definitely more comfortable than Acura's.
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They're getting rid of the RDX already?
#85
Originally Posted by Jared03CLS
Is Infiniti > Acura? but it's only based on my personal opinion, not overall sales, or what the interior styling is. I'm actually getting rid of my 03 CL-S pretty soon for an 07 FX.
I have an Acura, but I also have an 03 G35 6MT (and a Hummer H3, but that doesn't really apply in this thread ) in my driveway and I must say that I really like Infiniti's interior, and their seats are definitely more comfortable than Acura's.
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They're getting rid of the RDX already?
I have an Acura, but I also have an 03 G35 6MT (and a Hummer H3, but that doesn't really apply in this thread ) in my driveway and I must say that I really like Infiniti's interior, and their seats are definitely more comfortable than Acura's.
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They're getting rid of the RDX already?
#87
ummm you decide for youself......
First place: Acura Tl type s 1:36:67 sec
second place: Lexus is350 1:38:24
Third place: infiniti g35 1:38:67
This was on the Willow springs racetrack
http://clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275963
First place: Acura Tl type s 1:36:67 sec
second place: Lexus is350 1:38:24
Third place: infiniti g35 1:38:67
This was on the Willow springs racetrack
http://clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275963
#88
Originally Posted by speedzer
ummm you decide for youself......
First place: Acura Tl type s 1:36:67 sec
second place: Lexus is350 1:38:24
Third place: infiniti g35 1:38:67
This was on the Willow springs racetrack
http://clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275963
First place: Acura Tl type s 1:36:67 sec
second place: Lexus is350 1:38:24
Third place: infiniti g35 1:38:67
This was on the Willow springs racetrack
http://clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275963
I duno man.. I can't trust that sh*t. both Lexus and Infiniti has more power and torque than TLS, and they are both RWD. I think it is either the drivers, or Honda paid them.
#89
Originally Posted by runnerX
I duno man.. I can't trust that sh*t. both Lexus and Infiniti has more power and torque than TLS, and they are both RWD. I think it is either the drivers, or Honda paid them.
It is what it is, though it seems hard to believe.
#91
Originally Posted by dom
Wow, very impressive. a full 2 seconds quicker than the G. Having said that, 99.9% of us will never track the car so......
OT: I'm so glad we banned 1SICKLEX
OT: I'm so glad we banned 1SICKLEX
Yeah.. he would be freaking pissed at Speedzer for posting that..
#93
Originally Posted by speedzer
ummm you decide for youself......
First place: Acura Tl type s 1:36:67 sec
second place: Lexus is350 1:38:24
Third place: infiniti g35 1:38:67
This was on the Willow springs racetrack
http://clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275963
First place: Acura Tl type s 1:36:67 sec
second place: Lexus is350 1:38:24
Third place: infiniti g35 1:38:67
This was on the Willow springs racetrack
http://clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275963
#94
Originally Posted by runnerX
I duno man.. I can't trust that sh*t. both Lexus and Infiniti has more power and torque than TLS, and they are both RWD. I think it is either the drivers, or Honda paid them.
True, but neither the G nor the IS has VTEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#96
Originally Posted by dom
Wow, very impressive. a full 2 seconds quicker than the G. Having said that, 99.9% of us will never track the car so......
OT: I'm so glad we banned 1SICKLEX
OT: I'm so glad we banned 1SICKLEX
#98
Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
Dom, it's funny you mention 1SICKLEX, that guy has to be the biggest @sshat on all car forums. I literally can't stand reading his posts.
#100
Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
Dom, it's funny you mention 1SICKLEX, that guy has to be the biggest @sshat on all car forums. I literally can't stand reading his posts.
#101
I like Acura for what they are, as long as they stick to that or change drastically.
Increasing prices and putting more features in won't make me want to buy an Acura.
The TL-S is something I wouldn't buy because its price is too high. Same thing goes for the G35. But that goes to show you what kind of buyer I am. Infiniti always seems to put prices into unreasonable ranges. Lexus does the same thing. At least Acura has the TSX, which I fought long and hard over before buying my Accord.
I drive a 2006 Accord 6MT coupe. It's the best balance I could find of price/features/fun and refinement.
Increasing prices and putting more features in won't make me want to buy an Acura.
The TL-S is something I wouldn't buy because its price is too high. Same thing goes for the G35. But that goes to show you what kind of buyer I am. Infiniti always seems to put prices into unreasonable ranges. Lexus does the same thing. At least Acura has the TSX, which I fought long and hard over before buying my Accord.
I drive a 2006 Accord 6MT coupe. It's the best balance I could find of price/features/fun and refinement.
#102
Originally Posted by youngTL
The TL-S is something I wouldn't buy because its price is too high. Same thing goes for the G35. But that goes to show you what kind of buyer I am. Infiniti always seems to put prices into unreasonable ranges. Lexus does the same thing. At least Acura has the TSX, which I fought long and hard over before buying my Accord.
I drive a 2006 Accord 6MT coupe. It's the best balance I could find of price/features/fun and refinement.
I drive a 2006 Accord 6MT coupe. It's the best balance I could find of price/features/fun and refinement.
#103
Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
But you can't compare your Accord Coupe to a G35 or a TL-S. Both of those cars are above the segment your Accord is in and ultimately demand a higher price. If you look at the direct competition of the G35 and the TL-S, you'll see that both of those cars are extremely well priced compared to their competitors.
However, both Acura and Infiniti in my opinion are better than BMW and Mercedes-Benz for offering similar cars at less money (well, Infiniti especially as Acuras are all FWD or SH-AWD).
#104
Originally Posted by youngTL
I know I can't. I'm just saying that Infiniti doesn't make anything in my price range, while Acura does.
#105
Well before the G35 Infiniti did have an affordable car in the TSX price range, the G20. Then, Lexus had one too, it was the ES250/300. But, both Lexus and Infiniti moved even more upscale and none of their cars today are under $30K. This is why the public/consumers perceive both Infiniti and Lexus as true luxury car brands. Acura is there too, but is still seen as entry level luxury or getting your foot in the door with a luxury brand. I hope Acura could eventually change this because it will help change their image.
That is why I bought the TSX because you could get one loaded w/navi for under $30K something Lexus and Infiniti can't do. It's good Acura can do that and draws different kinds of consumers, but it doesn't add exclusiveness to the brand. It's a steppingstone to buying better luxury cars brands in the future.
That is why I bought the TSX because you could get one loaded w/navi for under $30K something Lexus and Infiniti can't do. It's good Acura can do that and draws different kinds of consumers, but it doesn't add exclusiveness to the brand. It's a steppingstone to buying better luxury cars brands in the future.
#106
Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Well before the G35 Infiniti did have an affordable car in the TSX price range, the G20. Then, Lexus had one too, it was the ES250/300. But, both Lexus and Infiniti moved even more upscale and none of their cars today are under $30K. This is why the public/consumers perceive both Infiniti and Lexus as true luxury car brands. Acura is there too, but is still seen as entry level luxury or getting your foot in the door with a luxury brand. I hope Acura could eventually change this because it will help change their image.
...although without a V8 flagship or even a premium V8 model, Acura is not quite there.
#107
Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Well before the G35 Infiniti did have an affordable car in the TSX price range, the G20. Then, Lexus had one too, it was the ES250/300. But, both Lexus and Infiniti moved even more upscale and none of their cars today are under $30K. This is why the public/consumers perceive both Infiniti and Lexus as true luxury car brands. Acura is there too, but is still seen as entry level luxury or getting your foot in the door with a luxury brand. I hope Acura could eventually change this because it will help change their image.
That is why I bought the TSX because you could get one loaded w/navi for under $30K something Lexus and Infiniti can't do. It's good Acura can do that and draws different kinds of consumers, but it doesn't add exclusiveness to the brand. It's a steppingstone to buying better luxury cars brands in the future.
That is why I bought the TSX because you could get one loaded w/navi for under $30K something Lexus and Infiniti can't do. It's good Acura can do that and draws different kinds of consumers, but it doesn't add exclusiveness to the brand. It's a steppingstone to buying better luxury cars brands in the future.
It's funny, 5 years ago, I wouldn't put Infiniti anywhere near Acura in terms of upscale brand identity.
#108
Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
yeah 1sicklex is in that clublexus thread. were gilboman and him cousins?
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#109
Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
Yep, completely agree! I guess I was referring more to today's market.
It's funny, 5 years ago, I wouldn't put Infiniti anywhere near Acura in terms of upscale brand identity.
It's funny, 5 years ago, I wouldn't put Infiniti anywhere near Acura in terms of upscale brand identity.
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