I'm the victim of Consumer Fraud (Yo Yo sale)
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I'm the victim of Consumer Fraud (Yo Yo sale)
Hi, I'm the guy that got taken by Infiniti in the Atlanta Area
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/my-13-day-nightmare-infiniti-g35-314665/
After talking to many lawyers and getting many advice from people here, I was brought to ask myself many times why I did not just take my my stuff and left the first time my deal fell thru...
Now that a lawyer broke it down for me, the only reason Infiniti caved in to give the the interest rate I aggreed to over the weekend is that they had already paid off my trad in and they could not reverse the process without loosing allot of money so I was basicly forced to take a new car because that was the only option I had... Now from what I was told, this process is "yo yo sale".... and from what I understand, It happens very often to people like me who don't have great credit... And people go along with it... because I have a problem This problem is exposed...
Now I can prouve this because now after 1 month the dealer still can't get me approved on my old car even if they have all my info because they put negative equity on the car and they don't have a paystub to prove I make the money to cover the payments...
Can someone help me out there?
I'm in Atlanta...
more info on the process
http://www.protectinggeorgiaconsumer...20Disputes.htm
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/my-13-day-nightmare-infiniti-g35-314665/
After talking to many lawyers and getting many advice from people here, I was brought to ask myself many times why I did not just take my my stuff and left the first time my deal fell thru...
Now that a lawyer broke it down for me, the only reason Infiniti caved in to give the the interest rate I aggreed to over the weekend is that they had already paid off my trad in and they could not reverse the process without loosing allot of money so I was basicly forced to take a new car because that was the only option I had... Now from what I was told, this process is "yo yo sale".... and from what I understand, It happens very often to people like me who don't have great credit... And people go along with it... because I have a problem This problem is exposed...
Now I can prouve this because now after 1 month the dealer still can't get me approved on my old car even if they have all my info because they put negative equity on the car and they don't have a paystub to prove I make the money to cover the payments...
Can someone help me out there?
I'm in Atlanta...
more info on the process
http://www.protectinggeorgiaconsumer...20Disputes.htm
#4
Originally Posted by Steelers Wheels
I might be able to help if I could just understand what you are try to say..
What is the exact problem now?
What is the exact problem now?
Right now there having prolems with Approuving my loan without my paystub so the car is not under my name... Basicly the situation is now very ugly
#5
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Originally Posted by dallison
water-s??? is that you?
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wow the spelling is fantastic, I have high hopes for this one
......wonder how the dealer was able to pull one over on this guy
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Originally Posted by 95gt
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wow the spelling is fantastic, I have high hopes for this one
......wonder how the dealer was able to pull one over on this guy
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I'm new to the US, things don't work that way and its elligal to do "Spot Delivery"
thank you for making fun of me tho...
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#7
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Originally Posted by djinferno
I'm new to the US, things don't work that way and its elligal to do "Spot Delivery"
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thank you for making fun of me tho...
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welcome to acurazine.
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All I got out of the other post was,
*You traded in car, they took it and paid off your loan.
*Since you have no credit they tried to screw you on interest and payment amount.
*You wanted to walk, but they called you a pussy for not making decisions on you own, so you caved in and signed a higher interest rate contract that was inflated a couple hundred dollars.
*Now you find out the car is uncomfortable and you don't want it.
*You traded in car, they took it and paid off your loan.
*Since you have no credit they tried to screw you on interest and payment amount.
*You wanted to walk, but they called you a pussy for not making decisions on you own, so you caved in and signed a higher interest rate contract that was inflated a couple hundred dollars.
*Now you find out the car is uncomfortable and you don't want it.
#9
Originally Posted by djinferno
This car dealer yoyoed me twice, I want to take legal action to recoup what I lost...
Right now there having prolems with Approuving my loan without my paystub so the car is not under my name... Basicly the situation is now very ugly
Right now there having prolems with Approuving my loan without my paystub so the car is not under my name... Basicly the situation is now very ugly
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#12
Ahhhhhhhhh I see - Thanks for the clarification Beet
I think I'll print this off and give it to my kid if he ever decides school isn't necessary
"see son, if you don't make any goddamn sense, people stick a yoyo in your ass and take all your money"
I think I'll print this off and give it to my kid if he ever decides school isn't necessary
"see son, if you don't make any goddamn sense, people stick a yoyo in your ass and take all your money"
#13
Yeehaw
Originally Posted by Steelers Wheels
"see son, if you don't make any goddamn sense, people stick a yoyo in your ass and take all your money"
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Originally Posted by GTKrockeTT
why exactly are you on acurazine instead of the infiniti boards?
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i dont see a case here, you are going to be more in the hole after you lose in court, and have to pay thousands to your lawyer, cause i'm sure he'll make money off you too
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Man how many forums are you gonna post this on for your transaction.... sorry to hear that the car has caused you so much pain, but it was your own ignorance and dealing which has gotten you in this mess...
sadly on the infiniti forums no one has any love for ya either, cuz your fighting a battle which was done within the context of the law. You signed a contract and now are trying to back out.
sadly on the infiniti forums no one has any love for ya either, cuz your fighting a battle which was done within the context of the law. You signed a contract and now are trying to back out.
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Wow, this is why if you think you're not confident enough to buy a car yourself, bring a friend (especially if English isn't your native language!). We've heard enough. You're gonna get
here in every post you make if this keeps up.
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Originally Posted by djinferno
Hi, I'm the guy that got taken by Infiniti in the Atlanta Area
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314665
After talking to many lawyers and getting many advice from people here, I was brought to ask myself many times why I did not just take my my stuff and left the first time my deal fell thru...
Now that a lawyer broke it down for me, the only reason Infiniti caved in to give the the interest rate I aggreed to over the weekend is that they had already paid off my trad in and they could not reverse the process without loosing allot of money so I was basicly forced to take a new car because that was the only option I had... Now from what I was told, this process is "yo yo sale".... and from what I understand, It happens very often to people like me who don't have great credit... And people go along with it... because I have a problem This problem is exposed...
Now I can prouve this because now after 1 month the dealer still can't get me approved on my old car even if they have all my info because they put negative equity on the car and they don't have a paystub to prove I make the money to cover the payments...
Can someone help me out there?
I'm in Atlanta...
more info on the process
http://www.protectinggeorgiaconsumer...20Disputes.htm
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314665
After talking to many lawyers and getting many advice from people here, I was brought to ask myself many times why I did not just take my my stuff and left the first time my deal fell thru...
Now that a lawyer broke it down for me, the only reason Infiniti caved in to give the the interest rate I aggreed to over the weekend is that they had already paid off my trad in and they could not reverse the process without loosing allot of money so I was basicly forced to take a new car because that was the only option I had... Now from what I was told, this process is "yo yo sale".... and from what I understand, It happens very often to people like me who don't have great credit... And people go along with it... because I have a problem This problem is exposed...
Now I can prouve this because now after 1 month the dealer still can't get me approved on my old car even if they have all my info because they put negative equity on the car and they don't have a paystub to prove I make the money to cover the payments...
Can someone help me out there?
I'm in Atlanta...
more info on the process
http://www.protectinggeorgiaconsumer...20Disputes.htm
Just so everyone knows, Sacha is a guy and he's not a native English speaker.
Sacha, if they can't get you approved for the loan on the new car (that's what we're talking about, right?), the only resolution I see is them giving you fair market value for your trade in and they take back the new car.
You'll need a lawyer to push this through, unfortunately.
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Now I can prouve this because now after 1 month the dealer still can't get me approved on my old car even if they have all my info because they put negative equity on the car and they don't have a paystub to prove I make the money to cover the payments...
If so...whatever contract you signed...for whatever bank the contract was for...is invalid if they refuse it. So, in essence...there is NO contract. No contract, no deal...no inequity.
If no bank will buy the paper(contract) because of your ass-licking credit, then you are a free man. Keep talking to a lawyer about it, you should be able to weasel your filthy way out of this one dude.
Most dealers have after-hour approval systems with local & regional banks...but usually only until 6 or 7 pm, unless it's AAA credit and it's done through a major manufacturers credit program(GMAC, Nissan Credit, Ford Motor Acceptance, etc). The local banks are the ones who approve the crappy deals like yours...so sometimes the dealer makes a 'judgement call' to get the car on the road...but, sometimes the F&I guys reach a little too far into the crappy-credit land...and the deal gets bounced...like yours is doing. B O I N N N N G G G G G
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IMO, I don't see much of a case. You may be able to present one but doubtful you will get anything out of it.
You may be better off financially to just give your original car back to the dealer as well and just move on. Get something less expensive, possibly in cash, and change you health insurance provider.
You may be better off financially to just give your original car back to the dealer as well and just move on. Get something less expensive, possibly in cash, and change you health insurance provider.
#25
Originally Posted by TheMirror
Just so everyone knows, Sacha is a guy and he's not a native English speaker.
Sacha, if they can't get you approved for the loan on the new car (that's what we're talking about, right?), the only resolution I see is them giving you fair market value for your trade in and they take back the new car.
You'll need a lawyer to push this through, unfortunately.
Sacha, if they can't get you approved for the loan on the new car (that's what we're talking about, right?), the only resolution I see is them giving you fair market value for your trade in and they take back the new car.
You'll need a lawyer to push this through, unfortunately.
That said, if I understand the story correctly, your driving the dealers car until they give you the book value of your car...
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#26
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Originally Posted by GTKrockeTT
why exactly are you on acurazine instead of the infiniti boards?
#27
Even if you know what you're doing its easier having a friend with you to get an upper hand on the dealer. A lot of times I go out test driving, I get tag teamed by a salesman and managers. Going with someone knowledgeable , it evens it up, especially when it comes down to calculating finances.
Dealers do put pressure on buyers, but the most important thing to remember is you can just walk away. If I don't like what I'm hearing, usually go in with kbb.com invoice price and carsdirect.com prices in my head, I'll walk out without even explaining myself other than a short thanks for ur time and i'll get back to you etc..
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Dealers do put pressure on buyers, but the most important thing to remember is you can just walk away. If I don't like what I'm hearing, usually go in with kbb.com invoice price and carsdirect.com prices in my head, I'll walk out without even explaining myself other than a short thanks for ur time and i'll get back to you etc..
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