Install surveillance cameras in your cabin, wait for the

 

I'm with you. If I had a choice, I wouldn't take the car back. The M3 is one of my favorite cars so I'd give it another chance (with another new one). Good luck with this!

BTW - If the M3 doesn't work out, my vote goes to the CTS-V...what a bad ass!

 

Yea ill need a black box to go along with too

Thanks , the CTS-V is on my list now too

 

You should take your car to a BMW certified specialist shop and get their diagnoses on it, that might help with your apparent lemon case. Also, why the couldn't the dealer pull up the error codes? Seems shady to me.

 

If it was a temporary electrical malfunction, would that be recorded by the car's computer? What if the blip was brief and all the electronics returned to normal, like a short power outage type deal?

 

they said there was no error at all and that no lights were on , my pics must be lyin

 

Did you show them the pictures? Also see if they could look at vehicle's EDR.

Good luck.

 

I didn't show them , but i told him i had pics , he said it was cause of the snow

 

^I never knew snow could cause all of those lights to come on

 

Yep, the snow can do funny things with the car. The ABS sensor probably tripped because of the suspension error and brake error. The car's sensors were telling it that the car was still moving in a straight line while you had the wheel turned and as well was continuing forward at a stead rate instead of slowing down and probably thought that one of the controllers were bad.

With the steering locking, does it lock into place where the wheel is not moving or does the steering wheel spin freely? Also is your M3 6MT? If yes, then it has a steering lock on it!

 

No i have DCT M3

 

Damn.

What's nutty is that type of a failure doesn't trip a code or ten. My electrical problem turned out to be a poorly seated junction box which threw all sorts of codes, including the car's timing was off. So I would think that if your dashboard lit up like a Christmas, there would be some sort of trail.

Stick with your guns on this. I hope BMWNA takes care of you.

 

Thanks, i hope so too.

They still didn't even touch the topic about my seats , check the pics if you haven't already , it has those blacks marks all over

 

Dang bro. Sorry to hear that. As stated my a few earlier the M3 is a dream car. I hope they find the problem and fix it so that you won't waste your life dealing with this. Unfortunately BMW is not very forthcoming about issues with their vehicles. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is going to be an uphill battle.

Here's a plan. Tell the service writer that he can drive your car back and forth to work for a month and then take a picture of his facial expression. That will tell you that even he knows that this may be happening and that he wouldn't want to risk his life behind the wheel of your car.

 

lol that sounds like a good plan, ill have to use that one tomorrow

 

Sorry to hear about the issues...Hope they get resolved soon.

 

Man if it wasn't for the fact that I drove one of these during an M event I would have just said to hell with the car but I instantly feel in love with it when behind the wheel.

I say try to work it out with them but if things really go sour, I would agree that the CTS-V might be a nice alternative.

 

wow, hope all works out for you. just stay persistent.

 

Have you talked to the lawyer? What did he say you should do if BMWNA and the dealer both can't find anything?

 

Thanks , i know ill have to keep on them

I spoke to him once and he said to call him if i can't work it out with BMWNA, so ill try again 2morrow and then ill call him back if anything

 

Wow, sorry for all the troubles you've had. Good luck, I hope everything gets resolved.

 

Wow is right. I'm quite surprised by this. It is a really bad feeling having to go up against a monster corporation. I hope everything works out to your satisfaction.

 

^Thanks guys

Some lady from corporate called me , i wasn't expecting her call , but she said that my claim has be escalated and she will be handling my case from now on , so hopefully she can give me some results.

 

Did she give you an ETA on getting some answers? Are you still driving the loaner?

 

I'd be a touch stern but friendly. A $70K car is worth being a bit disappointed about, so I'm sure she will run this to ground.

 

Yea, she seem nice ,but kinda dumb at the same time , she asked me if i could take a ride with a Forman and try to duplicate the problem again , i asked her what if we get in a accident? she said i understand , your concerns and ill get back to you .

 

That is one of the worst car stories i have ever heard. You spend that kind of money you expect things to work properly. Sorry to hear that!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
But as far as lawyer fees. You would sew bmw for time lost and things like that. Your lawyer will go into detail because this is how they make most of their money. Good luck with all of this!!<o:p></o:p>

 

Thanks, right now i didn't start a case with the lawyer yet, i'm still trying to work things out with BMW 1st

 

I agree. No need to start suing while they are still working on making things right.

 

I recommend not going over 55 and your RPMs low on the M3 to keep it safe. Dont take turns too fast, 40mph max and you should be good to go

 

This guy's a Forman:



And about as qualified to diagnose your problems as anyone at the dealer ... Maybe.

 

Awesome, a $70k Smart Car

 

lol

 

a crash at 40 mph can still do some major damage

but i wont even try that , i told them i made my mind up , i'm not stepping a foot back in that car again.

 

I was being sarcastic. But it seems you guys caught it quick.


M3 is a great car, I would lemon law it since M3's are pretty good vehicles in general and just get another M3. Looks like you just got unlucky.

 

Yea i know , thanks for the input bro

when they ask me next time to try to duplicate the problem ill say this "I wonder if the Toyota reps asked there owners to replicate stuck accelerators "

 

lol...definitely do this!

 

Hope there's some sarcasm in here. The minute you take the douchebag route, good luck getting any leverage. Lawyer or not.

 

Ehhh.. Good luck. What a nightmare.

 

lol it is, so far i've very friendly with her , she's a nice lady. She even asked me if i got a loaner i told her no , and she gave me her contact info and said to give her a call back tomorrow.