I checked out the new GTO!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-17-2004 | 01:53 AM
  #1  
Nashua_Night_Hawk's Avatar
Thread Starter
Happy CL-S Pilot
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 9,215
Likes: 1
From: Nashua, NH, USA
I checked out the new GTO!

I stopped by our local Pontiac to have a peek at the new GTO.

First impressions:
Pro:
1) Great Seats for 4 adults
2) a mean LS-1 engine.
3) a cool dashboard.

Con:
1) tiny trunk
2) No Brembos.
3) No NAV
4) No Memory seats
5) No sunroof.

Conclusion, not worth the asking price of $32K. Maybe if it was around mid $20K... it would be worth buying.

I pass...

Nashua.
Old 03-17-2004 | 02:01 AM
  #2  
Joe5.0's Avatar
TQ > MPG
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,624
Likes: 8
From: Metro Detroit
If only they kept the F-bodies around. Too bad though.

I think the GTO is a pretty nice car, but it does nothing to excite me. Sure the LS1 is a great engine, but I'll spend $10k less and get a WS6 which looks badass, unlike the GTO which looks like a 97-03 Gran Prix coupe. For the money I'd get a G35C if I wanted sporty rwd luxury/sports car. It may be a little slower, but at least it doesnt weigh 3800 lbs :o
Old 03-17-2004 | 02:15 AM
  #3  
darrinb's Avatar
///M POWER
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 15,299
Likes: 1
From: West Bloomfield, MI
yea the f body replacement should be better than a gto, i cant believed they dropped the ws6 that is one hot lookin ride
Old 03-17-2004 | 02:23 AM
  #4  
jruss9819's Avatar
Texan trapped in NM
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 525
Likes: 0
From: albuquerque
32K for a holden with LS1. Pontiac is calling the GTO an american legend but the F*cking thinking was(still is???) made in Australia. NO WAY>Plus, 245 series tires trying to put down 350HP is never going to happen. That is porbably why they show the car peeling out in the ads....because that is all it probably does well.

Did the interior look as cheap in person as it does in pictures?
Old 03-17-2004 | 04:05 AM
  #5  
SEmy2K2go's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: Columbus, OH
I checked out the GTO at a local dealership here in Columbus last month and was kinda shocked at what I heard. The salesman said that since the GTO is going to have limited production, they had to do a LAI (limited availability increase). There is only one option on the GTO and that is the 6 spd manual transmission. With that option the car is roughly $34k. With the LAI, this dealership marked them up $5k taking it to $39k. I asked the salesperson when they received their first one and he said a month previous to my visit. I then asked how many had they sold up till my visit = none. They had 6 on their lot at that time. How do you mark up a vehicle you haven't sold and you have 6 of them on your lot? Oh yeah...no test drives either. So while I was there, I called another Columbus area Pontiac dealership. No LAI and yes, they are doing test drives on the car. The salesperson (whom was standing next to me) was speachless. I left and said that I would never do business with them. Just kind of a funny story.
Old 03-17-2004 | 04:15 AM
  #6  
mattg's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 22,909
Likes: 388
From: OR
that is funny. the salesman got
Old 03-17-2004 | 08:21 AM
  #7  
vinarnold's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,199
Likes: 0
From: long island
yeah the gto will be over priced for the next year, then it will go down to a normal price.
Old 03-17-2004 | 08:21 AM
  #8  
ChadT's Avatar
Spectacular Aroma About
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,364
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Originally posted by mattg
that is funny. the salesman got
That is a good story. I liked the GTO until I saw one at the car show this weekend. The styling is really bland in person and my wife's comment was the kicker. "Why'd they make it look just like a Cavilier?"
Old 03-17-2004 | 08:37 AM
  #9  
JRock's Avatar
Old timer
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 9,224
Likes: 1
From: .
It looks like an over-sized Cavalier on the outside.
Sat in one in the showroom. Had a $2,000 price premium on it, so $35k.
Seats were decent, dash and console area actually LOOKED decent (a first for Pontiac) although as soon as I touched the climate controls, the reality of the cheapness set in.
I'm sure it's fun to drive, but the clutch was heavy as fuck just working it with my foot in the showroom, so it wouldn't be a fun daily driver at all.

Also, no sunroof or removable hardtop panel.

For $35k? Hell no. $28k and it'd be considerable (assuming the clutch was decent and the exterior was attractive).
Old 03-17-2004 | 08:38 AM
  #10  
Black CL-S 4-Life's Avatar
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 14,078
Likes: 5
From: The City of Syrup Screwston, Texas
Another con for me is no HIDs.
Old 03-17-2004 | 08:48 AM
  #11  
dallison's Avatar
registered pw
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 38,822
Likes: 354
From: south central pa
Originally posted by vinarnold
yeah the gto will be over priced for the next year, then it will go down to a normal price.

and then will depreciate like hell
Old 03-17-2004 | 08:51 AM
  #12  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY
I still like it....especially with the black / red combo

Old 03-17-2004 | 08:55 AM
  #13  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY
this makes it even more appealing to me....mod wise



450whp for under 5k
Old 03-17-2004 | 09:09 AM
  #14  
gto2050's Avatar
Someday pigs WILL fly!
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,320
Likes: 0
From: Pequannock, NJ USA
V8 always has potential. Has anyone seen one of these on the road? If I had never seen the rest of GM's line, it would be good looking but after seeing the Cavalier and every other weaksauce body design from GM, it's too similar. The car on its own though is pretty good looking. It's like dating a beautiful girl and you look at her family. The family is huge and you wonder if she is adopted because they are all homely as shiznits. I have been to a few dealer lots and they all seem to have automatics and never got sticks.
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:02 AM
  #15  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
said it before ...ill say it again...i cant wait to smoke one
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:12 AM
  #16  
SiGGy's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,263
Likes: 2
From: Lenexa, KS
Originally posted by typeR
said it before ...ill say it again...i cant wait to smoke one
Just not that one right?


Even minor mods on the 5.7L will put it into the low 13's
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:18 AM
  #17  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
Originally posted by SiGGy
Just not that one right?


Even minor mods on the 5.7L will put it into the low 13's
already made a pass at the 1/8th that would have been a 13.4...and the uni chip is coming...but no still not that one..i think it'll take all the bolt ons for that car to see 12.99..it's heavy
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:22 AM
  #18  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY
Originally posted by typeR
already made a pass at the 1/8th that would have been a 13.4...and the uni chip is coming...but no still not that one..i think it'll take all the bolt ons for that car to see 12.99..it's heavy


http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index...topic=1492&hl=

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1245
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:24 AM
  #19  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY


you say this yet you post on that board.......hypocrite
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:25 AM
  #20  
Chaptorial's Avatar
Race Director
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 18,552
Likes: 4
From: Long Island, NY
Bitch is fast but its lacking some of the comfort and convince areas that are in our cars. However I doubt anyone buying this car is really caring about luxury.
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:27 AM
  #21  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY
http://www.fullboost.com.au/vidzz/fu..._04_01_ls1.avi

http://www.fullboost.com.au/vidzz/fu..._04_02_ls1.avi

need i say more
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:28 AM
  #22  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
ok the first link if a 13.4 and the second is higher stall,drag radials weight removal,cold air,maf,tb bypass to a 13.1
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:30 AM
  #23  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
Originally posted by phil2


you say this yet you post on that board.......hypocrite
whats hypocritical about it?...i dont dis like the car ,fact is it's another car that'll give me a good run...and being a sedan,it's closer to home
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:30 AM
  #24  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY
Originally posted by typeR
ok the first link if a 13.4 and the second is higher stall,drag radials weight removal,cold air,maf,tb bypass to a 13.1
look at the vids.....shit even with just a shot of n2o should be 12's effortlessly
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:31 AM
  #25  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY
Originally posted by typeR
whats hypocritical about it?...i dont dis like the car ,fact is it's another car that'll give me a good run...and being a sedan,it's closer to home

sedan are we talking bout the same vehicle here?
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:32 AM
  #26  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
thats either blown or a big shot...i saw one run 11's at BMP last week...he was running a big shot
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:33 AM
  #27  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY
Originally posted by typeR
thats either blown or a big shot...i saw one run 11's at BMP last week...he was running a big shot
actually from what i read its a 150 shot and cam/head work and just slicks
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:34 AM
  #28  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
Originally posted by phil2
sedan are we talking bout the same vehicle here?
i thought they were 4 door...i saw a concept and it was...anyway...even better two sport coupes head to head.....im less than a 100 shot away from 12's myself
Old 03-17-2004 | 10:37 AM
  #29  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,905
Likes: 1,675
So....any chance of Ford importing the Ford Falcon from down under??
Old 03-17-2004 | 11:41 AM
  #30  
SiGGy's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,263
Likes: 2
From: Lenexa, KS
Originally posted by typeR
i thought they were 4 door...i saw a concept and it was...anyway...even better two sport coupes head to head.....im less than a 100 shot away from 12's myself



Your playing in a unfair sandbox here. The LS1 has WAY more of an aftermarket than our 3.2 (or your stroked 3.5l)...

You talking crazy man!

lol (ren and stimpy)
Old 03-17-2004 | 11:42 AM
  #31  
Pure Adrenaline's Avatar
Dragging knees in
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,434
Likes: 32
From: Seattle Area
GM priced it way too high, and the dealerships are pricing it even higher. A yellow one at a dealership back home has been sitting there for months, and same with the black one here at school. Idiots. If people don't see it on the road, then it doesn't increase the interest in the car. The longer the cars sit on the lot, the more people think it's an unattractive car. I don't understand how some of these dealerships stay in business, given the way they practice... oh, yeah, 50-dollar conventional oil changes and conning their customers into changing parts they don't need.

The GTO is a nice car, but I would rather go out and pick up an '02 WS6 and mod the hell out of it. Nothing says "Get the fvck out of my way" more than a WS6 pushing 450rwhp, purging nitrous through the hood nostrils.
Old 03-17-2004 | 06:41 PM
  #32  
jruss9819's Avatar
Texan trapped in NM
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 525
Likes: 0
From: albuquerque
this the typical way that GM does business. that is way their sales have been on a steady decline over the last 10 years.
Old 03-17-2004 | 06:47 PM
  #33  
Crazy Bimmer's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 34,937
Likes: 638
From: Chicago Burbs
not to be a dick....

But what does the CLS have that the GTO doesnt? What makes the CLS worth 31k then?

I think GTO is well worth the price.
Old 03-17-2004 | 06:48 PM
  #34  
Crazy Bimmer's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 34,937
Likes: 638
From: Chicago Burbs
Originally posted by typeR
said it before ...ill say it again...i cant wait to smoke one

How much money did you spend on mods?

Put that same amount in the GTO and my money is on the v8.
Old 03-18-2004 | 09:43 AM
  #35  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY
Originally posted by typeR
i thought they were 4 door...i saw a concept and it was...anyway...even better two sport coupes head to head.....im less than a 100 shot away from 12's myself
http://www.ls1gto.com/movies/BMRGTO.wmv

here is an actual us gto with minimal mods and only 100 shot.....
Old 03-18-2004 | 10:04 AM
  #36  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,905
Likes: 1,675
Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
not to be a dick....

But what does the CLS have that the GTO doesnt? What makes the CLS worth 31k then?

I think GTO is well worth the price.
Power Sunroof
HIDs
Navigation
Reliability
Decent fuel economy

$.02
Old 03-18-2004 | 10:06 AM
  #37  
phil2's Avatar
has Gloryhole Girls in
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 1
From: Ballston Lake, NY
Originally posted by F23A4

Reliability

*cough* tranny *cough*
Old 03-18-2004 | 10:09 AM
  #38  
Chaptorial's Avatar
Race Director
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 18,552
Likes: 4
From: Long Island, NY
Originally posted by F23A4
Power Sunroof
HIDs
Navigation
Reliability
Decent fuel economy

$.02
Don't forget memory seats and rear down passenger side mirror.
Old 03-18-2004 | 10:11 AM
  #39  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,905
Likes: 1,675
Originally posted by Chaptorial
Don't forget memory seats and rear down passenger side mirror.
HOLLA!!!
Old 03-18-2004 | 01:49 PM
  #40  
Crazy Bimmer's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 34,937
Likes: 638
From: Chicago Burbs
Originally posted by F23A4
Power Sunroof
HIDs
Navigation
Reliability
Decent fuel economy

$.02

GTO doesnt have a sunroof?


Ok fawk dat.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:30 PM.