Nashua_Night_Hawk

I stopped by our local Pontiac to have a peek at the new GTO.

First impressions:
Pro:
1) Great Seats for 4 adults
2) a mean LS-1 engine.
3) a cool dashboard.

Con:
1) tiny trunk
2) No Brembos.
3) No NAV
4) No Memory seats
5) No sunroof.

Conclusion, not worth the asking price of $32K. Maybe if it was around mid $20K... it would be worth buying.

I pass...

Nashua.

Joe5.0

If only they kept the F-bodies around. Too bad though.

I think the GTO is a pretty nice car, but it does nothing to excite me. Sure the LS1 is a great engine, but I'll spend $10k less and get a WS6 which looks badass, unlike the GTO which looks like a 97-03 Gran Prix coupe. For the money I'd get a G35C if I wanted sporty rwd luxury/sports car. It may be a little slower, but at least it doesnt weigh 3800 lbs :o

darrinb

yea the f body replacement should be better than a gto, i cant believed they dropped the ws6 that is one hot lookin ride

jruss9819

32K for a holden with LS1. Pontiac is calling the GTO an american legend but the F*cking thinking was(still is???) made in Australia. NO WAY>Plus, 245 series tires trying to put down 350HP is never going to happen. That is porbably why they show the car peeling out in the ads....because that is all it probably does well.

Did the interior look as cheap in person as it does in pictures?

SEmy2K2go

I checked out the GTO at a local dealership here in Columbus last month and was kinda shocked at what I heard. The salesman said that since the GTO is going to have limited production, they had to do a LAI (limited availability increase). There is only one option on the GTO and that is the 6 spd manual transmission. With that option the car is roughly $34k. With the LAI, this dealership marked them up $5k taking it to $39k. I asked the salesperson when they received their first one and he said a month previous to my visit. I then asked how many had they sold up till my visit = none. They had 6 on their lot at that time. How do you mark up a vehicle you haven't sold and you have 6 of them on your lot? Oh yeah...no test drives either. So while I was there, I called another Columbus area Pontiac dealership. No LAI and yes, they are doing test drives on the car. The salesperson (whom was standing next to me) was speachless. I left and said that I would never do business with them. Just kind of a funny story.

mattg

that is funny. the salesman got

vinarnold

yeah the gto will be over priced for the next year, then it will go down to a normal price.

ChadT

That is a good story. I liked the GTO until I saw one at the car show this weekend. The styling is really bland in person and my wife's comment was the kicker. "Why'd they make it look just like a Cavilier?"

JRock

It looks like an over-sized Cavalier on the outside.
Sat in one in the showroom. Had a $2,000 price premium on it, so $35k.
Seats were decent, dash and console area actually LOOKED decent (a first for Pontiac) although as soon as I touched the climate controls, the reality of the cheapness set in.
I'm sure it's fun to drive, but the clutch was heavy as fuck just working it with my foot in the showroom, so it wouldn't be a fun daily driver at all.

Also, no sunroof or removable hardtop panel.

For $35k? Hell no. $28k and it'd be considerable (assuming the clutch was decent and the exterior was attractive).

Black CL-S 4-Life

Another con for me is no HIDs.

dallison

and then will depreciate like hell

phil2

I still like it....especially with the black / red combo

phil2

this makes it even more appealing to me....mod wise



450whp for under 5k

gto2050

V8 always has potential. Has anyone seen one of these on the road? If I had never seen the rest of GM's line, it would be good looking but after seeing the Cavalier and every other weaksauce body design from GM, it's too similar. The car on its own though is pretty good looking. It's like dating a beautiful girl and you look at her family. The family is huge and you wonder if she is adopted because they are all homely as shiznits. I have been to a few dealer lots and they all seem to have automatics and never got sticks.

typeR

said it before ...ill say it again...i cant wait to smoke one

SiGGy

Just not that one right?


Even minor mods on the 5.7L will put it into the low 13's

typeR

already made a pass at the 1/8th that would have been a 13.4...and the uni chip is coming...but no still not that one..i think it'll take all the bolt ons for that car to see 12.99..it's heavy

phil2

http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index...topic=1492&hl=

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1245

phil2

you say this yet you post on that board.......hypocrite

Chaptorial

Bitch is fast but its lacking some of the comfort and convince areas that are in our cars. However I doubt anyone buying this car is really caring about luxury.

phil2

http://www.fullboost.com.au/vidzz/fu..._04_01_ls1.avi

http://www.fullboost.com.au/vidzz/fu..._04_02_ls1.avi

need i say more

typeR

ok the first link if a 13.4 and the second is higher stall,drag radials weight removal,cold air,maf,tb bypass to a 13.1

typeR

whats hypocritical about it?...i dont dis like the car ,fact is it's another car that'll give me a good run...and being a sedan,it's closer to home

phil2

look at the vids.....shit even with just a shot of n2o should be 12's effortlessly

phil2

sedan are we talking bout the same vehicle here?

typeR

thats either blown or a big shot...i saw one run 11's at BMP last week...he was running a big shot

phil2

actually from what i read its a 150 shot and cam/head work and just slicks

typeR

i thought they were 4 door...i saw a concept and it was...anyway...even better two sport coupes head to head.....im less than a 100 shot away from 12's myself

F23A4

So....any chance of Ford importing the Ford Falcon from down under??

SiGGy

Your playing in a unfair sandbox here. The LS1 has WAY more of an aftermarket than our 3.2 (or your stroked 3.5l)...

You talking crazy man!

lol (ren and stimpy)

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

GM priced it way too high, and the dealerships are pricing it even higher. A yellow one at a dealership back home has been sitting there for months, and same with the black one here at school. Idiots. If people don't see it on the road, then it doesn't increase the interest in the car. The longer the cars sit on the lot, the more people think it's an unattractive car. I don't understand how some of these dealerships stay in business, given the way they practice... oh, yeah, 50-dollar conventional oil changes and conning their customers into changing parts they don't need.

The GTO is a nice car, but I would rather go out and pick up an '02 WS6 and mod the hell out of it. Nothing says "Get the fvck out of my way" more than a WS6 pushing 450rwhp, purging nitrous through the hood nostrils.

jruss9819

this the typical way that GM does business. that is way their sales have been on a steady decline over the last 10 years.

Crazy Bimmer

not to be a dick....

But what does the CLS have that the GTO doesnt? What makes the CLS worth 31k then?

I think GTO is well worth the price.

Crazy Bimmer

How much money did you spend on mods?

Put that same amount in the GTO and my money is on the v8.

phil2

http://www.ls1gto.com/movies/BMRGTO.wmv

here is an actual us gto with minimal mods and only 100 shot.....

F23A4

Power Sunroof
HIDs
Navigation
Reliability
Decent fuel economy

$.02

phil2

*cough* tranny *cough*

Chaptorial

Don't forget memory seats and rear down passenger side mirror.

F23A4

HOLLA!!!

Crazy Bimmer

GTO doesnt have a sunroof?


Ok fawk dat.