Is Honda's quality too close to Acura?

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Old 01-07-2016, 09:23 AM
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Man, you should have bought the latest Accord Sport. That car is solid for the price.
Up here in NorCal you could get an Accord Sport for 21k.
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Man, you should have bought the latest Accord Sport. That car is solid for the price.
, 6MT, quicker steering, bigger brakes, dual exhaust, 235/40-19, LED fogs,...
Old 01-07-2016, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
Remember how sporty Acura used to be? Where did that go?
You can always buy an NSX which costs more than its competitors even though it already fell behind them!
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Old 01-07-2016, 10:52 AM
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You can always buy an NSX which costs more than its competitors even though it already fell behind them!
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should have used red text

Of course if one loves 1988 graphics on rear view camera and nav, there is no better company than ACURA!!!
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I was going to say Wagon is BS'n.
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I was going to say Wagon is BS'n.


shuddup ecobooost boy

don't you have some cowbells to ring
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No Ecoboost.
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:40 PM
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The TLX was right for you OP. That's all that matters.

I would go a different direction if I was looking now, but I bought my TSX a few years back because I wanted it to last.
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In Canada, there is less than 10% difference between an Accord Touring V6 and TLX V6. The lease rates are within $5 / month.

In the USA, an Accord V6 with no NAVI leases for MORE than a TLX V6 AWD ($592 vs $567), unless there are promotions which changes everything.
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Acura sucks.
What happened to you man, you changed... YOU CHANGED!
Old 01-07-2016, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
You can always buy an NSX which costs more than its competitors even though it already fell behind them!
Awww such harsh words for the new nsx. really it's not that much more....GT-R is the cheap outlier...otherwise looking at 911 Turbo and R8 V10 it's similarly equipped/priced and similar platforms.

Anyway love Honda reliability though...so what if its too close...thats fine. More cheap Honda cars for me to buy later!
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Originally Posted by nist7
Awww such harsh words for the new nsx. really it's not that much more....GT-R is the cheap outlier...otherwise looking at 911 Turbo and R8 V10 it's similarly equipped/priced and similar platforms.
lol. Was kind of a joke based on the common theme you'll see on AZ regarding the NSX. . Plus, we'll see what happens if it ever launches
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Old 01-08-2016, 08:30 AM
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This just in; Acura has decided to push back the NSX to 2020, when the price of oil goes back up
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
lol. Was kind of a joke based on the common theme you'll see on AZ regarding the NSX. . Plus, we'll see what happens if it ever launches
haha ok. yeah NSX gets so much hate on the media and forum circuits...ridiculous. Honda will do Honda...a car that may very well be legendary after years.

How was the first NSX perceived I wonder when it first came out...
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Reliability and Acura don't mix anymore either FYI.
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Originally Posted by nist7
haha ok. yeah NSX gets so much hate on the media and forum circuits...ridiculous. Honda will do Honda...a car that may very well be legendary after years.

How was the first NSX perceived I wonder when it first came out...
Great, because it actually made lambo and ferarri step their game up....

However, with the new NSX, they are already a generation behind ferarri and lambo
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Originally Posted by P1zzaman
What happened to you man, you changed... YOU CHANGED!



I'm a Acura hater now.
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You suck!

Acura is the BEST car company in the WORLD!!
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They don't seem to listen to their customers and had lost their way long ago. Once the tsx is gone, i hope to not have another honda product except for our lawnmower.


Originally Posted by juniorbean
The fact that they are basically Hondas is why I haven't owned one in 10+ years.

The argument can be made that all luxury brands share parts/platforms with their "regular" siblings... and that's true... but in most cases there is a difference. With Honda/Acura, that line feels extremely blurred and has kept me away for a long time.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
Great, because it actually made lambo and ferarri step their game up....

However, with the new NSX, they are already a generation behind ferarri and lambo
Power and weight-wise certainly...though I wonder what metric are we using to measure and compare the NSX to the other supercars?

HP and weight wise yes.....NSX is down 100hp and up about 600lbs on the 488.

Of course ferrrari has the F1-inspired trans 7-speed vs the SH-AWD 9speed DCT in the NSX.

Price and exotic brand wise...ferrari/lambo of course wins due to their long history/pedigree.

Reliability and driveability daily likely goes to NSX as that has been the motto...the everyday supercar.

Reviews does show some numb steering from the NSX which seems to be a big gripe.

Now we'll need to see how the two compare in terms of track/lap times....
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Originally Posted by Flipster23


I'm a Acura hater now.
Flipster flipped sides. No surprise here .
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Originally Posted by nist7
Now we'll need to see how the two compare in terms of track/lap times....
and that therein is the joke.

when is it coming out? 2020?
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Originally Posted by dallison
They don't seem to listen to their customers and had lost their way long ago. Once the tsx is gone, i hope to not have another honda product except for our lawnmower.
Don't be so quick to write off Honda completely. They make a fine gas powered generator too, if you're ever in the market. Perhaps the quietest one I've ever heard.

Mine is so quiet, I've replaced the Honda emblems with Acura emblems so everyone can understand how luxurious it is. It's that kind of thrilling generator!
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Honda (not Acura) is finding its way again.

The new 2016 Civic Touring impressed the shit out of me at the auto show.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
and that therein is the joke.

when is it coming out? 2020?
Yeah....so much delay! I thought it's still coming out later this year as a 2017 model???
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Originally Posted by nist7
Yeah....so much delay! I thought it's still coming out later this year as a 2017 model???
that's what they said 4 years ago............................................... ................................................

each year its pushed back.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
that's what they said 4 years ago............................................... ................................................

each year its pushed back.
ahhh.....shiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeet. Well at least now they have drive-able cars in the hands of reviewers....so hopefully this is good sign that production models are almost ready!!!

It maybe quality issues that they want to resolve before pushing them out the door...cause that is something I suspect they will want to keep....a truly reliable super sportscar that is more daily friendly than the others....
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Originally Posted by nist7
ahhh.....shiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeet. Well at least now they have drive-able cars in the hands of reviewers....so hopefully this is good sign that production models are almost ready!!!

It maybe quality issues that they want to resolve before pushing them out the door...cause that is something I suspect they will want to keep....a truly reliable super sportscar that is more daily friendly than the others....
which is understandable.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
which is understandable.
Yup.

I feel like the big economic downturn in 08/09 was a big hinderance. Didn't the NSX project had to restart from scratch pretty much like at least once or twice? So depending on how much time they had....5-6 years to develop produce test engineer and put on the road now a brand new NSX that can still be competitive driving wise and price wise.....still impressive if that is the case...
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Honda (not Acura) is finding its way again.

The new 2016 Civic Touring impressed the shit out of me at the auto show.
Did you like the way it looked? I think it looks

I dunno, even if all the boxes are checked - if I can't stand to look at a car, there is no way I could buy it kinda like the 4GTL e.g.
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Originally Posted by ggesq
Did you like the way it looked? I think it looks

I dunno, even if all the boxes are checked - if I can't stand to look at a car, there is no way I could buy it kinda like the 4GTL e.g.
I like how the sedan looks a lot. And the interior is top notch in touring trim.
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^^^To me the new civic looks alright....not gorgeous but not ugly either. I mean it's just very neutral to me. The interior seems great though.
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Anybody see the road and track review that talks about the horrendous rear view camera on new nsx?
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Originally Posted by nist7
^^^To me the new civic looks alright....not gorgeous but not ugly either. I mean it's just very neutral to me. The interior seems great though.
To me that was the failure called the last gen. especially the shit 80's interior design.

This one is pretty striking, especially from the rear.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
To me that was the failure called the last gen. especially the shit 80's interior design.

This one is pretty striking, especially from the rear.
It's tarting to grow on me. Last gen yes was fugly.

But I agree with you on the rear....that rear end is not bad at all!!

A bit too much cues from the Accord front end imo. I did like their prior styling for the accord front ends prior to the mid gen style refresh
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Originally Posted by justnspace
and that therein is the joke.

when is it coming out? 2020?
Safety regs will change by then, so Acura will go back to the drawing board.
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Originally Posted by cu2wagon
Don't be so quick to write off Honda completely. They make a fine gas powered generator too, if you're ever in the market. Perhaps the quietest one I've ever heard.

Mine is so quiet, I've replaced the Honda emblems with Acura emblems so everyone can understand how luxurious it is. It's that kind of thrilling generator!
Hey, I have a Honda gas-powered rototiller at home. Pretty nice for the price!
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I would have gotten a new accord over a new tlx.
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Back in the early 90s, Acura was clearly the brand to buy with the NSX, longitudinal Legend, Vigor, first gen TL. All with manual transmission. Everyone who grew up during that time(myself included)wanted an Acura. Now with everything based on the 8th gen Accord platform, Acura is no better than Buick or Lincoln. Even Volvo has now figured out you need a RWD-like car to improve sales. Acura has no fucking clue of how a luxury brand works in real world.



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