Honda S2000 with Acura TL's 3.7L V6

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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Honda S2000 with Acura TL's 3.7L V6

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ls-37l-v6.html


"Here's a Honda S2000 that should have been built before Honda killed its open-top sportscar: Instead of a maniacally revving 2.2-liter, this S2000CR, recently modified by Honda Performance Development (HPD), has the 3.7-liter V6 from the Acura TL SH-AWD.

We expect the S2000 chassis is plenty robust enough to handle the bigger engine, since it's already proven able to cope with a V10. A cut-and-shut Honda S2000 chassis was used as a mule during development of the second-generation Acura NSX."

Am I dreaming or what?!!!!
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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Whoa..

Very nice!
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Whoa.



BLASPHEMY!

But anyway. Can you say "low-end torque"? Hey, no more motoring around town with the engine spinning at 4k rpm.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Don't really know what to say until I see it in action with some numbers.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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but what's 0-60?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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Wow, sweet!
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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i agree with the posts already stated, theres no reason to "buy this" because Honda has no interest in producing it, no interest in actually tuning it to fit the characteristics of the chassis, and no interest to use this this as a motive for a future "sports model"..all this being said, i wuldnt purchase an Acura/Honda that uses a "Sports Sedan" title, because they have no "sports car" in their entire lineup that they havent killed off
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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That would be a pretty quick car. Faster than a 370Z I'd imagine, and those are pretty fast.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:55 AM
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sick swap but you think they could of made the car actually look good..
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:57 AM
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J-series looks like a better fit than I imagined. If the details on how to do this get out to the public, we'll probably see more of them.....
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 05:47 AM
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J series swaps is the new fad.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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You know, they could have put the J25 in there (I had one in my Saber, a small V6). maybe less weight, make it RWD, and tweaked it up to respectable HP, 275 - 295 maybe.

But I like the thought.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 07:17 AM
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LOL @ some of the comments:
"Wouldn't it under steer like a fat-chick on skates though?"
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmako
You know, they could have put the J25 in there (I had one in my Saber, a small V6). maybe less weight, make it RWD, and tweaked it up to respectable HP, 275 - 295 maybe.

But I like the thought.
With that pic, it looks like a RWD application to me.
I see what you mean with the smaller V-6, maybe a little less torque but higher revving. Does a smaller J-series with the same block and heads way any less though?
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Pretty cool project but I'm not wowed by the look of it.

Everybody know it's a freakin' Honda S2000, lets take off the windshield decal please
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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LOL @ some of the comments:
"Wouldn't it under steer like a fat-chick on skates though?"
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Cool project, but I think the answer for the S2k is for everything to be lighter, that's just my take.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Damnit, I was just about to post this. It's not actually AWD, I hope.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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sick swap, but tq steer must be pretty fking bad on that s2k
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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weld in a hardtop, change the bumpers and call it a new model, I'd get it.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by S14 n Tsx
sick swap, but tq steer must be pretty fking bad on that s2k
Red text?

It's either rear wheel drive or AWD, either way it won't have torque steer.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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That would be really fun to drive, wonder how the weight distribution is, although they mounted the J37 pretty far back. Not as tight a fit as I thought it's be.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by S14 n Tsx
sick swap, but tq steer must be pretty fking bad on that s2k
S2Ks are RWD d00d
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon24pdx
That would be a pretty quick car. Faster than a 370Z I'd imagine, and those are pretty fast.
I am about to purchase a 370Z next month to replace my TSX. But if Honda is going to create and sell a monster like this, I am willing to wait.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cuteguy1414
I am about to purchase a 370Z next month to replace my TSX. But if Honda is going to create and sell a monster like this, I am willing to wait.
They're not going to make this.

Its just a project somebody did.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Looks great under the hood. Just like it belongs there.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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I wonder what kind of transmission setup it has.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
They're not going to make this.

Its just a project somebody did.
Well, am going to be driving a Nissan next month then..sounds bad..lol

BTW, doesn't HPD stand for Honda Performance Development?

I googled them and I found this:

BACKGROUND: Honda Performance Development, Inc. (HPD) is Honda's racing company within North America and is a wholly owned subsidiary of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. Founded in 1993, HPD is the technical operations center for Honda's and Acura's high-performance racing programs. HPD is the single engine supplier to the IndyCar® Series and competes in prototype sports car racing under the Acura banner in the American Le Mans® Series.


This is a Honda project technically..so, there is still hope..
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Nissan's are great cars and the 370z in particular is brilliant, I don't think anyone on this forum is going to give you shit for buying the car you want because Honda doesn't make anything to compete with it. Even if this car was to go into production it would take years until it was available, I just don't see it happening or being worth waiting and hoping it becomes a reality.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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wouldnt the 2J swap be cheaper and better power wise?
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Silva-type-s
wouldnt the 2J swap be cheaper and better power wise?
Sure, it wouldn't be a Honda motor though.

Besides, this is the first RWD application of the J series.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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its nice but, i bought an s2000 because:
-i like to hear the engine screaming to 8k
-50/50 balance
-light weight
-fun rwd

either way the, power and torque would be nice. then again, id prob just boost it for the same price and have a pavement shreding monster.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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The J37 isn't all that much heavier nor is an LSx swap.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Sure, it wouldn't be a Honda motor though.

Besides, this is the first RWD application of the J series.
aahhh. thats right... it would be a full honda
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by adrian_04tl
its nice but, i bought an s2000 because:
-i like to hear the engine screaming to 8k
-50/50 balance
-light weight
-fun rwd

either way the, power and torque would be nice. then again, id prob just boost it for the same price and have a pavement shreding monster.
hey.. did you hear about phil's s2k?
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Silva-type-s
hey.. did you hear about phil's s2k?
no.
whos phil?
what about his s2k?
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Originally Posted by charliemike
S2Ks are RWD d00d
...and the longitudinally mounted J37 in the pic should betray its RWD setup.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
...and the longitudinally mounted J37 in the pic should betray its RWD setup.
this is why i figured a 2j would be cheaper and better, but then i would not be a full honda
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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the J37 in the SH-AWD TL is pretty light and compact motor for what it is, Silicon liners, etc.

It's great to see they put in a nice motor in the S2000, but I think a NSX C32B modified by honda would have been a much better swap and as well would stick with the True Honda Heritage.
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