This is hard
This is hard
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/21909743/detail.html
EDIT - http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/5-year-...bb-234840.html
This happened maybe two miles from my house. I have a 8 month old, and hitting a bit closer to home, twin 3 year old girls. Mom and siblings saw it happen.
While I don't feel anywhere what the family must be feeling, I imagined the same thing happened to one of my girls. While my street isn't a thoroughfare, people still drive way too fast on it. Just two years older than mine, and two miles away.
You shouldn't have to watch your kid die trying to get off the bus. I'm sick to my stomach.
EDIT - http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/5-year-...bb-234840.html
This happened maybe two miles from my house. I have a 8 month old, and hitting a bit closer to home, twin 3 year old girls. Mom and siblings saw it happen.
While I don't feel anywhere what the family must be feeling, I imagined the same thing happened to one of my girls. While my street isn't a thoroughfare, people still drive way too fast on it. Just two years older than mine, and two miles away.
You shouldn't have to watch your kid die trying to get off the bus. I'm sick to my stomach.
This is tragic for sure but accidents happen every day. We are all lucky to be here and can be ushered out at anytime. I work in an E.R. and I have seen stuff that would make your hair stand on end. Its not a fair world....
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Everyone should have to recertify, IMO. It'd be a PITA but it might get people who have no business driving off the road, regardless of their age.
I don't think anyone is in the position to comment on the driver since the article doesn't mention weather or road conditions or anything, and we don't know the driver's history. Though I do wish there was a requirement to test people every few years and senile drivers every year. She must be traumatized, as is the family.
still...
edit: damnit phee, I had this tab opened too long before I entered in my quick reply. Anyways....
still...

edit: damnit phee, I had this tab opened too long before I entered in my quick reply. Anyways....
65 degrees, clear, sun wasn't in her eyes (I'm familiar with that road). Indications are now that she didn't lose control, but tried to pass the bus on the right due to impatience.
Now that is unacceptable. I guess the reports of her going on the lawn are wrong then? If she went on the lawn due to impatience, well fuck she deserves whatever she's getting.
The intersection that this happened at has a very wide neck, so it's possible to pass someone on the right while staying on pavement. If you're a total assclown.
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The never did mention who was there to meet her at the bus (Mom/Dad/?)
Her mother and two younger siblings watched the incident, he said.
KarlaI just can't stomach the thought that must have gone through the Moms mind. My oldest starts school next year and I am so paranoid about having to let her ride the Bus.... we might end up having our Daycare arrange for Drop off pickup at school.
From a Bus Drivers Point of view
Folks slow down when you see that big yellow bus. On my morning commute, I see so many driver, a lot of them parents running to drop of their child, driving so aggresively near our school and wonder rather than endengaring lives of little one why can't they just leave 5 mins earlier.
My name is Kevin Smith and I drive Cobb County school bus #9980 and I’m scared! I’m scared that the next time a child is hit by a passing motorist it could be one of my kids, and every driver feels the same way! We see EVERYDAY people run the flashing stop sign on our buses and are scared that someday … it could be one of ours that gets hit!
As a school bus driver I have seen more ways that people run our stop signs than I can write about! I watch as parents with children in their own car speed up when we turn on the flashing yellow lights! I watch as parents on cell phones will turn their heads away from you so they can pretend that they didn’t see your flashing red stop sign in front of them! I have been at stop signs waiting to make a right hand turn and have had cars pull up beside me in the grass to try and pass me on the right hand (door) side!
I have been cut off, flipped off, cussed at and brake checked all because someone didn’t like being behind a school bus that was either slow moving or loading! I’m scared that I will one day have to look in the eyes of a grieving parent and see the lifetime of sorrow that they will face knowing that their child has been senselessly lost to a driver that couldn’t spare 30 seconds of their time to let a child board a bus! Your 30 seconds can cost some family a lifetime of grief!
Please understand that as a bus driver, we are committed to the safety of your (our) children, and yes we consider them our own! We work in some of the worst conditions imaginable, get very little thanks and are the first to be blamed when something goes wrong.
We are yelled at by parents because THEY were late to the bus stop and missed the bus. We have parents push their kids out of near moving cars into the middle of the street because they can’t get to the stop on time … ever see what happens when a bus hits a child?!
We’ve had our pay cut, our hours cut and our raises put on hold, yet we go out each morning and afternoon to face a public that takes us for granted and more often than not sees us as a hinderance to their daily lives … yet we love our jobs, and we love the kids that go with it!
I questioned some Cobb County authority figures last year on the reason we don’t put cameras on our stop signs to catch those that run them. I was told that Cobb County schools would have to foot the bill for the cameras, but Cobb County police would get the funds … who cares!!!
What is the life of even one of our kids worth! When will people see that we as drivers need help to stop these people who constantly choose to run the signs! We don’t need GPS! We don’t even need air conditioning!
We NEED things that will keep our children safe! We need things that will help us with the most dangerous part of a school bus … the 10 feet between the bus stop and the door! I guarantee you that if the fine is steep enough, the cameras would not only pay for themselves, but would also pay for the air conditioning and the GPS the school transportation department is asking for!
At what point do we say “Enough is enough” and do something to protect our kids? At what point do we say that our kids are worth way more than the 30 seconds that you will lose by waiting on them to board the bus?
My heart is broken for the family that lost their little girl this afternoon. My heart and prayers go out to them. I can’t even begin to imagine what grief they must be experiencing and pray that they will find their comfort!
As a school bus driver I have seen more ways that people run our stop signs than I can write about! I watch as parents with children in their own car speed up when we turn on the flashing yellow lights! I watch as parents on cell phones will turn their heads away from you so they can pretend that they didn’t see your flashing red stop sign in front of them! I have been at stop signs waiting to make a right hand turn and have had cars pull up beside me in the grass to try and pass me on the right hand (door) side!
I have been cut off, flipped off, cussed at and brake checked all because someone didn’t like being behind a school bus that was either slow moving or loading! I’m scared that I will one day have to look in the eyes of a grieving parent and see the lifetime of sorrow that they will face knowing that their child has been senselessly lost to a driver that couldn’t spare 30 seconds of their time to let a child board a bus! Your 30 seconds can cost some family a lifetime of grief!
Please understand that as a bus driver, we are committed to the safety of your (our) children, and yes we consider them our own! We work in some of the worst conditions imaginable, get very little thanks and are the first to be blamed when something goes wrong.
We are yelled at by parents because THEY were late to the bus stop and missed the bus. We have parents push their kids out of near moving cars into the middle of the street because they can’t get to the stop on time … ever see what happens when a bus hits a child?!
We’ve had our pay cut, our hours cut and our raises put on hold, yet we go out each morning and afternoon to face a public that takes us for granted and more often than not sees us as a hinderance to their daily lives … yet we love our jobs, and we love the kids that go with it!
I questioned some Cobb County authority figures last year on the reason we don’t put cameras on our stop signs to catch those that run them. I was told that Cobb County schools would have to foot the bill for the cameras, but Cobb County police would get the funds … who cares!!!
What is the life of even one of our kids worth! When will people see that we as drivers need help to stop these people who constantly choose to run the signs! We don’t need GPS! We don’t even need air conditioning!
We NEED things that will keep our children safe! We need things that will help us with the most dangerous part of a school bus … the 10 feet between the bus stop and the door! I guarantee you that if the fine is steep enough, the cameras would not only pay for themselves, but would also pay for the air conditioning and the GPS the school transportation department is asking for!
At what point do we say “Enough is enough” and do something to protect our kids? At what point do we say that our kids are worth way more than the 30 seconds that you will lose by waiting on them to board the bus?
My heart is broken for the family that lost their little girl this afternoon. My heart and prayers go out to them. I can’t even begin to imagine what grief they must be experiencing and pray that they will find their comfort!
Last edited by sr4dt; Dec 11, 2009 at 02:22 PM.
Story is now that the lady hit the wrong pedal.
Drove to a neighboring county today to go to Fry's, and I saw about thirty cars fly past several different school buses that were unloading. It makes me sick.
Drove to a neighboring county today to go to Fry's, and I saw about thirty cars fly past several different school buses that were unloading. It makes me sick.
Tragic story. 
I think at a certain age taking a driving test should become an annual priority. These accidents seem to happen more often than not and they always seem to end in tragedy with someone's life other than the drivers. Every time I hear a story like this it reminds me of the "Grey Dawn" episode of South Park. Funny episode, not so funny circumstances.

I think at a certain age taking a driving test should become an annual priority. These accidents seem to happen more often than not and they always seem to end in tragedy with someone's life other than the drivers. Every time I hear a story like this it reminds me of the "Grey Dawn" episode of South Park. Funny episode, not so funny circumstances.
Very sad story.
I hate to generalize, but many people are just too dam impatient. I see it all the time: running red lights, passing construction trucks on a 2 lane road going uphill, illegal passing, patients running off in a hurry from office and forgetting their belongs, etc...
I read that 2nd story; stepping on the wrong pedal my ass. She was probably pissed at the whole world, and now she has to stop behind a school bus and wait 30 seconds. So she decided to unleash her bottled anger. And it cost a child's life.
Unacceptable. Very tragic, and very sad.
I hate to generalize, but many people are just too dam impatient. I see it all the time: running red lights, passing construction trucks on a 2 lane road going uphill, illegal passing, patients running off in a hurry from office and forgetting their belongs, etc...
I read that 2nd story; stepping on the wrong pedal my ass. She was probably pissed at the whole world, and now she has to stop behind a school bus and wait 30 seconds. So she decided to unleash her bottled anger. And it cost a child's life.
Unacceptable. Very tragic, and very sad.
Last edited by docboy; Dec 12, 2009 at 12:46 AM.
My heart goes out to the parents of the kid. No parent should have to bury their child.
Karla.
A driver error of using the gas instead of brakes could happen to anyone. Just sad that it happened to a old person at the wrong time and she couldn't correct it soon enough.
Karla.A driver error of using the gas instead of brakes could happen to anyone. Just sad that it happened to a old person at the wrong time and she couldn't correct it soon enough.
Very sad - I have one grandpa still living, and driving, but I watched as 3 of my grandparents went downhill very quickly - I'm talking, in better shape than me and sharp as a tack, then dead 6 months later from various things - heart, Parkinsons, brain cancer... 
Point being, you can't test them weekly or monthly, it's just not feasible, and even if you do it yearly, there's a whole lot of them that will pass just fine but could easily get confused in the 12 months before the next test. Or even pass the test but still confuse the pedals or whatever - remember in the 80's it was drivers in their 30s and 40s - yuppies - who swore their Audi 5000s were just taking off willy nilly on their own...

Point being, you can't test them weekly or monthly, it's just not feasible, and even if you do it yearly, there's a whole lot of them that will pass just fine but could easily get confused in the 12 months before the next test. Or even pass the test but still confuse the pedals or whatever - remember in the 80's it was drivers in their 30s and 40s - yuppies - who swore their Audi 5000s were just taking off willy nilly on their own...
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