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Old 10-23-2007 | 07:21 AM
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Guess what I'm replacing my TSX with?

A Cadillac! Well, maybe.

My '04 TSX lease is up in a few months. I drive my M Coupe pretty much everyday, but I still need a sedan for wife trips, golf trips, hauling buddies, etc. I want a comfortable, luxurious highway cruiser with lots of features for <$50K. I spent last week driving most of the cars we've all considered at some point...here's my abbreviated thoughts:

335i:too small in back, interior not great. Engine is sublime, but saddling it with an automatic is sacrilege. I've got a sportier BMW...moving on.

TL-S:too much power for the front wheels. Too much like my TSX...moving on.

G35:uninspiring styling, too many at the grocery store. Didn't like the seats. Nice engine, though.

CTS:looks awesome (better in person), exquisite interior, feature-laden. Not blazing fast due to heft, but should do 60 in 6 seconds or so. Downright vast in the backseat compared to the others. Extremely quiet at speed. Me likey.

As a lifelong domestic HATER, I'm at a loss. A Cadillac! My grandpa would be so proud..he loved them
Old 10-23-2007 | 07:43 AM
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Ha read your thread on e90post

But yea, good call on the new CTS.
Old 10-23-2007 | 07:43 AM
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Doesnt the new CTS come with 300+ hp?
Old 10-23-2007 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Ha read your thread on e90post

But yea, good call on the new CTS.

Yeah, I think a lot of import-only guys like myself will overlook this car and not even give it a chance. I think that would be a mistake. It really is a great alternative to other import sedans. Geez, I sound like I work for GM and I don't even own the car

And yes, the direct injection engine has 304HP.

My BMW dealer did not have a 535i in stock, and that is the other sedan I'd really like to try out. It is much more comparable in size to the CTS, but it is also substantially more expensive when optioned accordingly. It would have to really dazzle to sway me away from the CTS.
Old 10-23-2007 | 08:34 AM
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The new CTS does look great, especially viewing directly from the rear. Great lines all over.

<-- Still associates Caddy with old people. Although thats slowly changing.
Old 10-23-2007 | 08:36 AM
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I couldn't believe what I just read considering i've never been impressed by the previous generation CTS interior but after looking at some pictures on cadillac's web site i'm damn impressed. The thing has a stitched leather dash board!

Might consider trading the RL on this...whatdya think sellout, RL or CTS?

Old 10-23-2007 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
The new CTS does look great, especially viewing directly from the rear. Great lines all over.

<-- Still associates Caddy with old people. Although thats slowly changing.
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Old 10-23-2007 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
The new CTS does look great, especially viewing directly from the rear. Great lines all over.

<-- Still associates Caddy with old people. Although thats slowly changing.
I think that new CTS is good lookin' for a domestic. It's going to become available w/ AWD soon too, any need for that feature where you live? I love my 530xi though I did buy it used to let someone else take the depreciation hit. good luck
Old 10-23-2007 | 09:23 AM
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I went to a dealership to see a CTS in person and was blown away. It's a beautiful car. I'd buy one if I wanted a sedan.
Old 10-23-2007 | 10:41 AM
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Im super impressed with the new CTS. I liked the old one and the new one is years ahead of the old. Im seriously considering it for a new car in a year
Old 10-23-2007 | 10:53 AM
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but I will admit the CTS does look nice and sounds like it'd be a good car. Resale might hurt ya though.

What about these:
Acura RL
Audi A6
BMW 5 Series - even though you have the M coupe
Infinity M35 or M45
Lexus GS or ES
Volvo S60 or S80

dare I also include the MB C350
Old 10-23-2007 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TSX Wisc Badger
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but I will admit the CTS does look nice and sounds like it'd be a good car. Resale might hurt ya though.

What about these:
Acura RL
Audi A6
BMW 5 Series - even though you have the M coupe
Infinity M35 or M45
Lexus GS or ES
Volvo S60 or S80

dare I also include the MB C350
If i was me I'd go with the Benz C350.
the RL nice but styling kind of bland looking.
A6 i'm not much of an audi fan
5 series to me kind of pricey
m35 again kind of bland looking
Lexus GS/ES and S60/s80(unless you get a used S60 R) their bland

of the bunch i like the new C350 BENZ
Old 10-23-2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TSX Wisc Badger
<----- GM HATER

but I will admit the CTS does look nice and sounds like it'd be a good car. Resale might hurt ya though.

What about these:
Acura RL
Audi A6
BMW 5 Series - even though you have the M coupe
Infinity M35 or M45
Lexus GS or ES
Volvo S60 or S80

dare I also include the MB C350
I lease new cars every 3 years, so I couldn't care less about resale value. About those others:

RL: boring, boring, and more boring. Needs a replacement. Zero interest.
A6: Audi's reliability frightens me. No to mention too expensive.
5 series: Haven't driven the 535i, but it's on my list. Pricey with options, though.
M35/45: nice cars, but so ugly.
GS: hadn't considered it. I'll look at it.
ES: no thanks.
Volvo: no interest in either of these but, to be fair, I've never driven a Volvo.

My mo-in-law picked up a C350 last week. Not what I'd expect from MB....in a bad way.
Old 10-23-2007 | 11:47 AM
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Fwiw, I've driven the GS several times & own two ISs - I would've picked up the GS without hesitation, but my wife & I just don't need more space & the extra options that come on the GS over the IS right now. Our ISs are nice & speedy, have drawn more compliments than all the other cars I've driven in my life combined (seriously), have a suspension that drives like a stick of butter, has a higher quality interior than most or all of its competitors, and is a lot of fun to drive when I feel so inclined.
Old 10-23-2007 | 01:21 PM
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During an MB C-class event, our little caravan took us past a Caddy dealership that had the new CTS sitting out front and left me clueless as to why anyone would get a C-class over the new CTS. To date the 2G CTS has to be Caddy's HOTTEST looking car.

The CTS is at the top of my list (by a narrow margin over the G35) as the replacement for my Accord in 2 1/2 years. NOTE: Both might get bumped down if Acura makes the 4G TL what is should be.
Old 10-23-2007 | 01:47 PM
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Get the CTS!
Old 10-23-2007 | 01:50 PM
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Old 10-23-2007 | 02:47 PM
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Man, if you can wait till 2009 the word on the street is that GM is gonna come out with a 600 HP CTS!!!! Yes thats what I said I work at a auto spa and a guy came in with his 400 HP CTS, and told me the news.
Old 10-23-2007 | 03:10 PM
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and a guy came in with his 400 HP CTS, and told me the news.

Was it Bob Lutz?
Old 10-23-2007 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FiftyFive
Doesnt the new CTS come with 300+ hp?
Yea, it comes with around 300hp but it has to haul 4000lbs too...anyways the upcoming CTS-V will fix that problem (I heard that it will have 600hp)...but then..it might cost a bit too much.
Old 10-23-2007 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Yea, it comes with around 300hp but it has to haul 4000lbs too...anyways the upcoming CTS-V will fix that problem (I heard that it will have 600hp)...but then..it might cost a bit too much.
600 hp i'd have to call B.S. on that.
most i see the new CTS-V having is 500
Old 10-23-2007 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MSO4gtt
I lease new cars every 3 years, so I couldn't care less about resale value. About those others:

RL: boring, boring, and more boring. Needs a replacement. Zero interest.


RL comment aside, doesn't resale value dictate the residual value on a lease which then helps determine the lease rate?
Old 10-23-2007 | 09:28 PM
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The new CTS is hot but its rather expensive, I don't know if I would ever drop 40k with all the features on a caddy, when I could have a new C klasse/ new 2009 A4. But thats just me
Old 10-23-2007 | 09:31 PM
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You lease cars and audis realibility scares you? The A6 should be a perfectly acceptable choice, especially if you lease. Get over the stigma.
Old 10-23-2007 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Siddig
You lease cars and audis realibility scares you? The A6 should be a perfectly acceptable choice, especially if you lease. Get over the stigma.
True the A6 got a CRrecommended for midsize luxury cars.
Old 10-23-2007 | 10:12 PM
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I lo-o-o-ove the new CTS. Good choice!
Old 10-23-2007 | 10:19 PM
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The CTS seems like a very nice car. Too bad it's a boat at two tons, but it would be my choice of a GM car short of a C6.
Old 10-24-2007 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Was it Bob Lutz?
I dont think so there buddy!! He was bein for real now!!
Old 10-24-2007 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Siddig
You lease cars and audis realibility scares you? The A6 should be a perfectly acceptable choice, especially if you lease. Get over the stigma.
Just because I like to lease does not mean that I would accept the car constantly being in the shop. My father had an A8 about three years ago. It was away so much he would forget what color it was.

And yes, value retention does factor into lease numbers.
Old 10-24-2007 | 11:14 AM
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Buddy of mine just got the New CTS in that Wine-Red color. OMG that thing is amazing. It get's looks wherever we go. People stare as if it was a sports car. He already has some wheels on it and an exhaust system that gives the car a G35 ish sound to it. Has the 300 horse motor and it moves good enough. Fit and finish are excellent.
Old 10-24-2007 | 11:17 AM
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You're buying a first year model and you're worried about reliability?
You own a BMW and you're worried about reliability?
Old 10-24-2007 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
You're buying a first year model and you're worried about reliability?
You own a BMW and you're worried about reliability?
Actually, I'll probably wait for the 2009. I agree that first year models are generally a no-no, although my 2004 TSX has been bullet proof.

My BMW has needed nothing but gasoline (knock on wood.)
Old 10-24-2007 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stright-(paint)balling
600 hp i'd have to call B.S. on that.
most i see the new CTS-V having is 500
lol, check this out man:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...adillac_cts_v/
Old 10-24-2007 | 05:38 PM
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i love the new audis.. ithink they look aggressive.. but the bmw 5 series imho is worth the extra cost especially since ur leasing... cts is also a nice car but id go with the bimmer or lexus
Old 10-24-2007 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Holy crap thats gonna cost a lot of money too. The current CTS-V is in the 50gs. But damn 500hp. wa wa wewo.
Old 10-24-2007 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SRK85
Holy crap thats gonna cost a lot of money too. The current CTS-V is in the 50gs. But damn 500hp. wa wa wewo.
their saying 600 hp.
if that's true that will be like a 4 door Z06 Vette.
yes the vette has less power than the projected CTS-V HOWEVER the CTS-V will weigh more. so if you lined up a new Z06 and a new CTS-V its early to say but if those numbers are true and they stick a 6 speed in that CTS-V it will be even up race.
Old 10-25-2007 | 08:35 AM
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PM ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING INFO, PRICING, PACKAGES, ETC. on the all-new cts
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