aackshun

Well i'm bored and I guess I should start one of those interesting discussions (I hope it's not a repost )

Anyways, what are/were the greatest Automotive Flops ever?

Eg. Acura CL, great car just poor marketing led to the car's failure to sell and now more mid-size coupes from Acura .

I'm thinking of another one and I'm sure someone will get it.

mclarenf3387

Pontiac Aztek. Never should have been made to begin with.

TheAcAvenger

chrysler crossfire... hahahaha, i saw one on 664 today, and it's little spoiler thing was up. It was the most toylike piece of matchbox i've ever seen

Soverighn

oldsmobile bravada

mclarenf3387

It was just a rebaged Chevy Blazer/Trailblazer. Hardly a flop, GM just diluted the market with 7 variations of the same car.

iTimmy

Pontiac Fiero

mclarenf3387

Bet without them we wouldn't have gotten all those lovely Ferarris kit cars

invisiblewar

the GTO..awesome car why did it die!

driver centric

LOL...when does GM not dilute the market with multiple variations of the same car?

TSXEd05

Because it looks like a Cavalier.

TCM 01 CL-S

I agree, that was going to be my next car when I could afford it. I read in Automobile (I think that mag) when I was getting my hair cut that it is comming back in 09 on a different chassis with a retro GTO look. The computer imaging of how its suppose to look was sexy!

iTimmy

Because they released it 5 years too late, GM could fuck up a wet dream

Soverighn

definitely a flop...how many do you see around?

Will Y.

What criteria for "greatest" flop- low sales(Edsel, Pontiak Aztek) or not meeting performance expectations despite number of sales (Fiero- until its last year )?

The GTO had much lower than expected sales of 25K, but I don't think it goes in the same category as the last two GM minivans which lasted two years before being spiked- I can't even name them (Chevy Venture?? and its Saturn/Buick equivalents)-- but they neither met sales nor performance expectations.
The last Ford Thunderbird and Mercury Cougar were flops too, as was the latest Subaru Brat- almost never see these cars on the road because nobody bought them, although they were supposed to attract more than enthusiasts (unlike the GTO and SVX).

aackshun

Well I had in mind, good cars which had poor sales but now it seems it has turned into just mainly cars that had relatively poor sales, which is cool also, there's allot of cars I've never heard of. Another one that comes to mind is the Toyota Supra, back in the production days no1 wanted it, but now that it's out of production it seems to be like a big thing and it's value has gone up quite a bit (wanted a MKIV but their aren't any locally for sale that I can afford), maybe this has sumfin to do with the fast and the furious movies....

Subaru Brat? I've never even heard of that car... kinda like how I've never heard of the CL until a few months ago...

dreem1er

iTrader: (2)

GTO has some problems becuase of the way it looks......i mean shit think of every muscle car you can does the new GTO jump at you....hell no that thing looks wrong......when i think muscle car i think 69 camaro.......64 mustang....... challenger....(the new one is SICK)....and if you look at the new gens of these cars they look like the ones i named coincidence i think not......the GTO just doesn't look like a muscle car with 450 HP should.....i guess thats what happens when you just rebadge a car thats already out in another country and call it new.....it left alot to be desired....

Black TL

I'm embarassed to say that my cousin was on the design team for this vehicle. Even his wife said "That thing is uuugly!"

aackshun

It is ugly, I'm surprised Mary K used that abomination instead of the cadillac for a few years. The pink aztek ugliness was horrific

SHYUperman

iTrader: (1)

Isuzu VehiCROSS & Axiom... in fact how bout any Isuzu??

Black Tire

Cadillac Allante
DeLorean DMC

trancemission

the cadillac catera too

xxpnoiboi03xx

no shit. like:

Pontiac solstice

saturn sky

Opel GT (EU)


Pontiac GTO

Chevy Lumina SS(middle east)

Vauxhaul Monaro


Pontiac G8

Holden Commodore

Chevy Lumina SS sedan (M.E.)



any more contributions of why GM likes too use their resources around the globe? or just arent creative enough?

Mokos23

Saab 9-2x, that was a rebadged Subaru and it only last 1-2 yrs.

xxpnoiboi03xx

toyota solara

RyeCL

i wouldnt call it a flop..

derrick

Good cars with poor sales?

Only thing that I can think of off the top of my head would be the GTO (only sold in the US ... :argh: ) and the NSX. I think the NSX at the end of its run was a great car but its price is what kept volumes really low. Honda never dumped any R&D into the next gen until its contemporaries jumped into the fray and now they're stuggling to keep up. That blasphemy of a concept at the Detroit Autoshow was wisely scrapped.

JediMindTricks

i wouldn't call the solara a flop. it sold well, no? and it was and is popular with the ladies.

i'd say the original camry coupe flopped. and toyota cressida, mazda millenium,

synth19

Gotta agree on the GTO. A tremendous value, or "bang for the buck," but the external styling really killed the sales IMHO.

JediMindTricks

altima se-r?

Beltfed

Buick Reatta.....aka Regretta.

JediMindTricks

^nice one.

and +1 for the cadillac catera.

Beltfed

Lincoln Blackwood......total cluster f*.

bigman

Every GM you posted is pure hotness. Give me more RWD coupes and sedans por favor.

Cocoa

iTrader: (2)

How about Daewoo?

NumberFive

A little piece of me died just now, looking at that...

JediMindTricks

all those GM's are pretty hot...

Moog-Type-S

The Rodeo was a huge winner.

Moog-Type-S

Mitsu Diamante

Garnet Canuck

Ford 500
Any Daewoo
Ford Pinto
Late 70s Mustangs
Yugos
Bricklin

NumberFive

I used to own one... the 2g's looked nice, but were almost exactly like Galants in every way.