A good replacement for 3G TL?

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Oct 25, 2008 | 07:08 PM
  #1  
For those of you who don't like the 4G TL and eventually want to replace your 3G TL. What do you think of this Lincoln MKS?

http://www.lincoln.com/mks/home.asp

The only thing I don't like is 40-46k for a Ford?
BUT! It has touch screen nav, voice command and push button start. Horsepower/fuel efficency/options are similar. The depreciation may be a bitch though.

Tell me what you think!
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Oct 25, 2008 | 07:15 PM
  #2  
Exterior looks nice but the interior is hideous. I would prefer the TL though still.
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Oct 25, 2008 | 07:20 PM
  #3  
The Lincoln is a much longer, bigger, heavier car than the 3G TL, and thus slower. Its more comparable to the RL than the TL.
The Lincoln MKZ is more directly comparable to the TL sizewise, but doesn't perform in car mag tests as well as the 3G TL does.

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Oct 25, 2008 | 07:56 PM
  #4  
Is there really any question? The best replacement for a 3G TL is another, newer 3G TL.
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Oct 25, 2008 | 07:59 PM
  #5  
everytime i saw the new Lincoln like 2 months ago, i kept thinking it was the 4G... very similar car....

new 4G is looking good.... custom grille, A-Spec kit... some 19's... little drop.... some JnC or BLACKURA custom headlights... it'll be fckin sweet
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Oct 25, 2008 | 09:09 PM
  #6  
If I had to give up my 3G, I would take a Lexus IS250/350. Not as good but a close second when fully loaded and 6TM.
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Oct 25, 2008 | 09:31 PM
  #7  
Quote: If I had to give up my 3G, I would take a Lexus IS250/350. Not as good but a close second when fully loaded and 6TM.
^ +1

Lexus is as reliable as the TL, AND the dealership network is typically a cut above Acura. You just won't get that with Lincoln.
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Oct 25, 2008 | 09:37 PM
  #8  
Quote: Is there really any question? The best replacement for a 3G TL is another, newer 3G TL.

Lol, "Trew dat!"
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Oct 25, 2008 | 10:57 PM
  #9  
Reminds me of an older hyundai sonata.
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Oct 25, 2008 | 11:59 PM
  #10  
Quote: ^ +1

Lexus is as reliable as the TL, AND the dealership network is typically a cut above Acura. You just won't get that with Lincoln.
+2

I'm also considering the Lexus 250 right now but since the 08 TL prices are cut that's what I'm shopping for. Plus, it's an upgrade from my Legend.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 12:10 AM
  #11  
I test drove teh is250 and i felt like i was in a clown car. So freakin small. I would say the closest car to size, price and specs is the g35.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 12:17 AM
  #12  
If I had to get rid of the TL, Id go with the new G37 Sedan, 328 HP, WOOT!
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Oct 26, 2008 | 12:23 AM
  #13  
hmm 335 sedan wouldnt be bad haha
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Oct 26, 2008 | 12:25 AM
  #14  
^ yah, BUT thats gonna break BANK!

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Oct 26, 2008 | 01:18 AM
  #15  
I was thinking about a G35 before my TL but I came from an 03 Maxima and I had more problems out of that car than I care to remember. I'm done with Nissan altogether. I agree that the IS 250/350 is a smaller car but that is what I would go for as a 3G replacement. I like the looks of it on the outside and the guys on the Lex forums say that it is ripe for the mods.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 06:22 AM
  #16  
The average life expectancy of a car is 18 years. No one knows what kinds of cars will be available when a replacement is needed.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 10:02 AM
  #17  
18 years, really? I thought I was doing well with my '96 Honda Accord with 238k on the odo. Looks like I have a few more years to go. I took the question as if what would be a good replacement today since the original poster was looking at a Lincoln MKS. I don't think the Lincoln is a bad car, just not for me.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 10:27 AM
  #18  
the 3G TL is irreplaceable!!!
the 3G TL is irreplaceable esp if its the 07-08 model!!! It's too hot. It has a nice front nice back, nice side. I just love how the only option to the TL is navi. Such an easy decision. Obviously theres the type s choice but u know what i mean. U truly get a lot of bang for ur buck. theres a lot more expensive cars than the TL, but they dont have a rear camera like the TL. and the NAVI is so user friendly, i heard about other complicated navi systems and annoying ones too. oh and the 3G TL is like the only car with the front and rear side markers. most cars juss have the front or back or they use the front ones to signal left and right only.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Quote: The average life expectancy of a car is 18 years. No one knows what kinds of cars will be available when a replacement is needed.
my '91 Legend is going on 18 years... 145,000miles.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 01:08 PM
  #20  
I would consider M35/M45 or the next E55 in 2010 for my replacement. Granted both are much higher in price than the 3G, but I'm in a different time in my life now, so I can afford a better car. The IS250/350 is way too small for the price.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Quote: the 3G TL is irreplaceable esp if its the 07-08 model!!! It's too hot. It has a nice front nice back, nice side. I just love how the only option to the TL is navi. Such an easy decision. Obviously theres the type s choice but u know what i mean. U truly get a lot of bang for ur buck. theres a lot more expensive cars than the TL, but they dont have a rear camera like the TL. and the NAVI is so user friendly, i heard about other complicated navi systems and annoying ones too. oh and the 3G TL is like the only car with the front and rear side markers. most cars juss have the front or back or they use the front ones to signal left and right only.
Well said Wall E !!!!!
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Oct 26, 2008 | 01:30 PM
  #22  
Personally I would go with a 3 series BMW. I got rid of mine to get the TL and I kick myself every day for getting rid of it. I personally just don't find the TL fun to drive and I never feel in control like I did in my BMW. I've had it a little over a year now and I'm trying to figure out a way to convince the wife I need to get another BMW.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 02:12 PM
  #23  
Opus,

I understand what you're saying about your BMW. But I had a 5 Series, and I got rid of it because it nickeled and dimed me to death with repairs.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 02:16 PM
  #24  
Quote: Personally I would go with a 3 series BMW. I got rid of mine to get the TL and I kick myself every day for getting rid of it. I personally just don't find the TL fun to drive and I never feel in control like I did in my BMW. I've had it a little over a year now and I'm trying to figure out a way to convince the wife I need to get another BMW.
I know what you mean .... once you ride a bimmer, very hard to get used to riding another whip, esp. from the performance perspective ... but if you want to keep the car for more than 3-4 years, then acura is still the choice to go ...

personally i don't mind the G37 sedan ....
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Oct 26, 2008 | 02:41 PM
  #25  
Quote: For those of you who don't like the 4G TL and eventually want to replace your 3G TL. What do you think of this Lincoln MKS?

http://www.lincoln.com/mks/home.asp

The only thing I don't like is 40-46k for a Ford?
BUT! It has touch screen nav, voice command and push button start. Horsepower/fuel efficency/options are similar. The depreciation may be a bitch though.

Tell me what you think!
Ford products are getting better, but not worth the price, I agree, especially since the 2010 Ford Taurus is essentially a de-equipped MKS. The Ford Fusion SEL V6 I rented last month wasn't bad at all. The Sync technology is pretty good. If you like the MKS, wait until the 3.5L EcoBoost twin-turbo V6 comes out. 340hp/340ftlbs all while achieving very good MPGs. It uses the same twin-turbo concept as the 335i. One for small for lower revs, one larger for higher revs.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 06:12 PM
  #26  
sorry guys but you are all wrong, the car I would replace my 3G, and Might in 5 or so years, is the new Hyundai Genesis. V8 375 hp, baby!!!! Its a awesome car for the money, sure the car might be made of alot of recycled plastics but the cars has alot of options and a huge V8. Plus with the depreciation that it will have in 5 years. It might go from 38k to 15k no problem in 5 years. Just like I picked up my 3G TL, it might even be lower, but I doubt it.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 06:33 PM
  #27  
i want to get a used Porsche Cayenne GTS as my next car .. crappy gas mileage, but I dont care!! lol
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Oct 26, 2008 | 06:48 PM
  #28  
Quote: sorry guys but you are all wrong, the car I would replace my 3G, and Might in 5 or so years, is the new Hyundai Genesis. V8 375 hp, baby!!!! Its a awesome car for the money, sure the car might be made of alot of recycled plastics but the cars has alot of options and a huge V8. Plus with the depreciation that it will have in 5 years. It might go from 38k to 15k no problem in 5 years. Just like I picked up my 3G TL, it might even be lower, but I doubt it.
I totally agree. That car has great performance and styling and its a tremendous value.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 07:37 PM
  #29  
Quote: I totally agree. That car has great performance and styling and its a tremendous value.
You guys are nuts! The car does look pretty good but it is $41,000 and it weighs 4000 POUNDS! What do you think that thing will be worth after a few years?
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Oct 26, 2008 | 08:12 PM
  #30  
Quote: You guys are nuts! The car does look pretty good but it is $41,000 and it weighs 4000 POUNDS! What do you think that thing will be worth after a few years?
in a few years it will be very affordable and a nice used car purchase. its a car a lot of people are overlooking because its a hyundai but what me and some others are saying, don't just overlook it. certainly won't replace the TL, this is an Acura/TL forum afterall.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 09:28 PM
  #31  
Quote: If I had to give up my 3G, I would take a Lexus IS250/350. Not as good but a close second when fully loaded and 6TM.
i definitely agree.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 10:23 PM
  #32  
The lincoln is a viable replacement for a much cheaper price, but I would stick with Lexus, Acura or Infinity over a ford.
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Oct 26, 2008 | 11:07 PM
  #33  
I was thinking about the new a4 cvt or altima hybrid. Both get better mileage.
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Oct 27, 2008 | 10:02 AM
  #34  
is this a secret lincoln mks > 4g TL thread?
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Oct 27, 2008 | 10:11 AM
  #35  
Quote: The lincoln is a viable replacement for a much cheaper price, but I would stick with Lexus, Acura or Infinity over a ford.
+1 Think of how much it will depreciate.
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Oct 27, 2008 | 10:15 AM
  #36  
E46 m3....:d
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Oct 27, 2008 | 10:25 AM
  #37  
Its funny how easily you can tell when a TL thread is moved to Car Talks.
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Oct 27, 2008 | 11:35 AM
  #38  
I'd say no to the Lincoln or any domestic right now. Its too hard to guess which ones will still be around or in what form in 4 years.

A BMW 3 series is a nice choice if you aren't too attached to your car and like to drive a lot of others (i.e. loaners while your car is PMS'ing and in for its monthy repair). German engineering has yet to grasp that "electricity" thing.

I'd stick with Acura/Honda or Lexus/Toyota. Btw, I just happened to have bought a NBP 2008 TL Type S(exy) recently but if I was forced to get something else, then those new Accords are damn nice.
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Oct 27, 2008 | 11:37 AM
  #39  
Quote: sorry guys but you are all wrong, the car I would replace my 3G, and Might in 5 or so years, is the new Hyundai Genesis. V8 375 hp, baby!!!! Its a awesome car for the money, sure the car might be made of alot of recycled plastics but the cars has alot of options and a huge V8. Plus with the depreciation that it will have in 5 years. It might go from 38k to 15k no problem in 5 years. Just like I picked up my 3G TL, it might even be lower, but I doubt it.
Actually this is a pretty good idea, I must say.

In 4-5 years Genesis will have depreciated to a price that's quite affordable, and I believe its 10 year warranty is transferable.
It is a very nice car for the money even new, but due to the economic conditions as of late Hyundai might have to cut its price further and that in turn will hurt the resale price down the road.
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Oct 27, 2008 | 11:59 AM
  #40  
Quote: is this a secret lincoln mks > 4g TL thread?
Perhaps...but then again: Everything > 4g TL

...and who are all these clownz?
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