Gone very far to the Dark Side - Cobra Kit

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 08:54 AM
  #241  
juniorbean's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 28,461
Likes: 1,760
From: The QC
Fantastic. This thing looks awesome.

Where in NC are you again? Need to get this thing out to a Cars & Coffee when it's done!!
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2014 | 03:25 PM
  #242  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Engine cooling system is installed which is the last major chassis piece. Rest is wiring & trim items so late Aug looks good for an engine start.



Wiring harness hanging on the radiator is for the front lights & turn signals.

Took some time out to rebuild the A/C system on the Xterra. Original unit did well lasting from 2003 to 2014.

Reply
Old Aug 8, 2014 | 03:55 PM
  #243  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Originally Posted by juniorbean
Fantastic. This thing looks awesome.

Where in NC are you again? Need to get this thing out to a Cars & Coffee when it's done!!
North Raleigh just outside the city line. We have a 8:30 Cobra's & Coffee the first Saturday of the month at the Hardees on Creedmoor & Millbrook. Usually in nice weather 10-15 cars show up 90% FFR replicars.

Its about 3/4 of a mile north of the big Crabtree Mall.

We are also doing a track day in late November at VIR. We are renting the track so we will have it all day or till the tires wear out.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2014 | 12:05 PM
  #244  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2014 | 08:42 AM
  #245  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Cobras & Coffee tomorrow due to a pair of rainy Saturdays.
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2014 | 12:36 PM
  #246  
NSXNEXT's Avatar
Senior Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 27,921
Likes: 1,080
From: where the weather suits my clothes
Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
North Raleigh just outside the city line. We have a 8:30 Cobra's & Coffee the first Saturday of the month at the Hardees on Creedmoor & Millbrook. Usually in nice weather 10-15 cars show up 90% FFR replicars.

Its about 3/4 of a mile north of the big Crabtree Mall.

We are also doing a track day in late November at VIR. We are renting the track so we will have it all day or till the tires wear out.
Ah cool. I lived in Raleigh back in the early 90s in The Pines of Ashton right near the hospital.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2014 | 09:52 AM
  #247  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
No work this week was at the shore with the family. Son in law I took to the performance center delivery gave me this picture of the track prepared M5. Very very fast car.

Reply
Old Aug 16, 2014 | 09:59 AM
  #248  
rockstar143's Avatar
Moderator
Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 78,249
Likes: 20,202
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2014 | 02:39 PM
  #249  
Aman's Avatar
Your Friendly Canadian
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 17,447
Likes: 1,506
From: Toronto, Ontario
Looks like fun! But that's an M6
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2014 | 03:23 PM
  #250  
ttribe's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,549
Likes: 6,209
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by Aman
Looks like fun! But that's an M6
M6 GC, no less.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2014 | 05:07 PM
  #251  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Win some loose some; the 4 doors tricked me. Have a mental block on 4 door coupes.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2014 | 12:49 AM
  #252  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
^^^ hahah aint that right LOL


"how is that a coupe? its got 4 fawking doors"
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2014 | 01:46 AM
  #253  
oonowindoo's Avatar
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 23,362
Likes: 4,273
From: Los Angeles
love the progress so far.

Glad you are someone who can appreciate German Engineering, American muscle and everything in between.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 10:01 AM
  #254  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Lots of boring wiring stuff this week with quite a bit more to go. One of the nice things about building a replica in NC is that its registered in the year of the original regardless of what engine is used. That said this brought an evil smile to be able to do a little something in the face of overwhelming government control of our lives.

So my 1965/67 is not required to have an annual general state inspection or emissions testing. The engine can be set up one of two ways from Ford Racing – strict emissions or ‘relaxed’ emissions.

So relaxed it is. The twin PVC valves in the valve covers get canned then replace by hose fittings & 1/2” hose (yellow). The two hoses are joined with a T fitting then routed under the chassis where they vent directly to the atmosphere. No running blow by gases pack into the intake tract.



Oh the humanity!!! we are all going to choke to death.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 10:05 AM
  #255  
rockstar143's Avatar
Moderator
Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 78,249
Likes: 20,202

hey, you need some of these to balance out the prius driver's sucking up all our fun!

there is an inverse relationship between CFC's and Pollutants and fun, after all.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 12:03 PM
  #256  
te3point5's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,474
Likes: 113
From: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
Lots of boring wiring stuff this week with quite a bit more to go.
There is nothing boring about anything in this thread, man.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 02:02 PM
  #257  
NSXNEXT's Avatar
Senior Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 27,921
Likes: 1,080
From: where the weather suits my clothes
Wow progress looks great. Can't wait to hear it fire up soon.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 10:17 PM
  #258  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
I know on the TL, the PCV has some oil content to it, does it do the same on that V8?

if so, you will be dumping (very little) oil on the roads...you could run a catch can setup
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 10:54 PM
  #259  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
If anything comes out it should be a light vapor. The outlets at the valve covers are baffled to keep liquid inside the engine. Functionally they work the same as the push in breather caps on a typical hotrod.

"Road Draft" tubes similar to what I made were standard equipment on all cars prior to the PCV regulations in the late 1960's. The PCV system originally had nothing to do with emission control. The system was invented during WWII for use on tank engines to seal them for fording deep water & for the DD swimming tanks used in the Normandy Beach landings.

Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; Aug 27, 2014 at 10:58 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 10:58 PM
  #260  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
not sure of the history of it....I know a lot of peeps install it to keep the engine running "clean"...

I only have knowledge from the experience with the TL....you sure have more know how than I do, so please take my suggestion with a grain of salt
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 11:03 PM
  #261  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Its a logical suggestion. I installed an inline oil catch can to replace the PCV system on my 335is which tended to coke up the back sides of the intake valves. It would pick up a few table spoons of oil every 4-5 months when I opened it up to clean it. The Cobra will not get the use that the daily drivers get.

Engines with breathers, road draft tube type blow by control can sludge up over time, generally with non synthetic oil, but again its the type of use. Prolonged idling, stop & go traffic etc reduce the effectiveness of the road draft type systems. They typically need air movement over the end of the tube to create a low pressure area to draw out the blow by gases.

Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; Aug 27, 2014 at 11:13 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 11:08 PM
  #262  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
yup, as I mentioned its very little (not like you will be dumping out qts of oil LOL)....

I am sure you gonna do a thorough research before you swing either route....am in for more updates and the first start...
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2014 | 11:24 PM
  #263  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
The catch can was the only liquid oil trap on the 335. The Cobra has oil separators internally before the tubing I put on so it may actually be cleaner than the BMW was. That said you are correct some will get out.

Engines with breathers, road draft tube type blow by control can sludge up over time, generally with non synthetic oil, but again its the type of use. Prolonged idling, stop & go traffic etc reduce the effectiveness of the road draft type systems.

They typically need air movement over the end of the tube to create a low pressure area to draw out the blow by gases.

Thing to think about here is these are not DD type engines, but are for 'off road' use. The computers & wiring harness from Ford Racing will not run in a Mustang BOSS because of abbreviated or dropped out functions.

Its just a loophole with the NCDMV that lets me run this engine. If I was back in Jersey I could not register it for street use the way I built it. No front license plates either in NC WOO-HOO

Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; Aug 27, 2014 at 11:32 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2014 | 03:36 PM
  #264  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
No pictures this week, rebuilt the rear on the Ranger after the brakes froze.


That said one of the guys cars did very well in the SCCA regionals "Super Weekend". He & a nationally ranked co-driver took the fastest time trophy out of 100 cars in the two day event.

Name:  super2014.jpg
Views: 315
Size:  43.1 KB

Nice for a home built effort.
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2014 | 05:27 PM
  #265  
rockstar143's Avatar
Moderator
Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 78,249
Likes: 20,202
sorry, now that I've seen yours, i can't like any others...
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 02:03 PM
  #266  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Good week for the Cobra. Got word they have started the body work & are fitting the doors, hood & trunk in prep for painting. Will trailer the chassis down there for them to install the body. Then I will bring it back home to finish it with lights, windshield, interior etc.



Continue to work on the wiring. FM & Sat radio is being worked on this weekend. In between wiring jobs (when they get too boring) installed the rest of the intake track & hooked up the airflow sensors. This finishes all the external engine sensors, water temp, oil temp, oil pressure, oil level & fuel level.



Reply
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 02:09 PM
  #267  
rockstar143's Avatar
Moderator
Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 78,249
Likes: 20,202

it's getting to be that time! Can't wait...initial turn on and first burnout video requests, including the look on your face both times.
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2014 | 09:22 AM
  #268  
1StGenCL's Avatar
958 & 991
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 9,927
Likes: 1,294
From: South Florida
Can't wait to see Moar!
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2014 | 01:38 PM
  #269  
mrmako's Avatar
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,816
Likes: 1,300
From: Japan
This thread is filled with awesome. Keep up the good work.
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2014 | 10:07 AM
  #270  
juniorbean's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 28,461
Likes: 1,760
From: The QC
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2014 | 08:18 PM
  #271  
chill_dog's Avatar
Oderint dum metuant.
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 12,496
Likes: 534
From: Lake Wylie
I've always thought this would be a fun thing to do, and your thread easily backs up that thinking. It's coming along nicely!
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2014 | 03:04 PM
  #272  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Firewall forward done.



Engine has oil & coolant. A bit more wiring to go.

Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; Sep 20, 2014 at 03:06 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2014 | 03:33 PM
  #273  
civicdrivr's Avatar
Team Owner
15 Year Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 36,862
Likes: 8,746
From: VA
Can't wait to see this completed.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2014 | 07:10 PM
  #274  
fsttyms1's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 81,385
Likes: 3,068
From: Appleton WI
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2014 | 02:03 PM
  #275  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Some extras from yesterday. Behind the dash am cleaning up the rats nest & bundling the wires. The yellow box is around an ECU connection that I had a question about for the guys on the FFR forum.







Reply
Old Sep 28, 2014 | 01:54 PM
  #276  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Mostly cleaning up the wiring this week. Main bus is in & engine ECU are completed. Some secondary, switched, wiring to go, plug in the dash harness to the chassis harness & then a test start YEAH.:thumbsu

In honor of my elevation to "clowndom' & BS'ing with my 0-60 claims in the TLX thread where I said, among other things, the FFR COBRA out of the box is an 11 second car. One of the guys is shaking down his ride with the first 1/4 miles. Two good runs then on the third & last where he had an excellent 1.8 60ft his throttle cable let go.

In Ryans words


'It was a very busy day at the track with lots of subarus breaking at every chance, but got a few passes in finally.

First pass, no burnout. Easy shifting... shake down pass.

Observations, brakes easily haul it down from 120 with no issue. She goes straight as an arrow. Spun through most of first gear. Shifted at ~5800. 1.8 60' time

Ran an easy 11.8 @ 121

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_qMD...wbCM0-zNE70Etg

Second pass

Attempted a burnout, but pushed through the line lock. Line lock doesn't seem to be holding pressure, so I need to check and replace I think. This is the third one I have had, the first two leaked. I am not very satisfied. Same 60' time, same spinning through first. Shifted a bit more aggressively and at 6000 rpms.

Ran a 11.6 @ 119

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S19_...wbCM0-zNE70Etg

And that was it... well I got a third pass in and finally managed to get a little heat in the tires. Improved the 60' time to 1.6 and was going to easily see an 11.3, but the throttle cable ball on the pedal pulled through the plastic insert and I had to abort the run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G_XS...wbCM0-zNE70Etg

Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; Sep 28, 2014 at 02:08 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2014 | 01:57 PM
  #277  
ttribe's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,549
Likes: 6,209
From: Phoenix, AZ
I'm not following this thread anymore since smoooov said you don't know anything about cars!

Reply
Old Sep 28, 2014 | 02:10 PM
  #278  
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
Thread Starter
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,674
Likes: 2,600
From: Raleigh, NC - USA
Expect he could get me on being crappy at imbedding vids in the posts.....4 shots to get it right
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2014 | 03:01 PM
  #279  
Will Y.'s Avatar
Registered but harmless
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,889
Likes: 1,164
From: Los Angeles, CA
Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
Mostly cleaning up the wiring this week. Main bus is in & engine ECU are completed. Some secondary, switched, wiring to go, plug in the dash harness to the chassis harness & then a test start YEAH.:thumbsu

In honor of my elevation to "clowndom' & BS'ing with my 0-60 claims in the TLX thread where I said, among other things, the FFR COBRA out of the box is an 11 second car. One of the guys is shaking down his ride with the first 1/4 miles. Two good runs then on the third & last where he had an excellent 1.8 60ft his throttle cable let go...
Looking forward to hearing about your completion of the project and shakedown of the Cobra.

You should have better luck than Ryan based on the work shown in this thread.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2014 | 03:02 PM
  #280  
civicdrivr's Avatar
Team Owner
15 Year Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 36,862
Likes: 8,746
From: VA
@ Subaru's breaking at every chance.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:34 AM.