General Car Talk Discussion Thread
True, but they also don't really have any direct competitors. Maybe a few years when Broncos start hitting the used market, JK & JL prices will start to get better.
It's pretty shocking what something like a '13-'15 JKUR goes for with ~50-90k miles on it.
It's pretty shocking what something like a '13-'15 JKUR goes for with ~50-90k miles on it.
I know the feeling all too well. The good part is that it'll hold the value when I go to sell mine too.
I really enjoy the white GX!!!
i'm looking at a gold colored one this weekend, but priced at $6500 and interior is trashed...totally not feeling it, ESPECIALLY priced at $6500. I might tell him to go pound sand, unless price is dropped considerably.
I feel like if I'm going to spend $6500 or more, I might as well get one that I enjoy. White exterior with a better kept interior.
i'm looking at a gold colored one this weekend, but priced at $6500 and interior is trashed...totally not feeling it, ESPECIALLY priced at $6500. I might tell him to go pound sand, unless price is dropped considerably.
I feel like if I'm going to spend $6500 or more, I might as well get one that I enjoy. White exterior with a better kept interior.
I really enjoy the white GX!!!
i'm looking at a gold colored one this weekend, but priced at $6500 and interior is trashed...totally not feeling it, ESPECIALLY priced at $6500. I might tell him to go pound sand, unless price is dropped considerably.
I feel like if I'm going to spend $6500 or more, I might as well get one that I enjoy. White exterior with a better kept interior.
i'm looking at a gold colored one this weekend, but priced at $6500 and interior is trashed...totally not feeling it, ESPECIALLY priced at $6500. I might tell him to go pound sand, unless price is dropped considerably.
I feel like if I'm going to spend $6500 or more, I might as well get one that I enjoy. White exterior with a better kept interior.
I'm not sold on the interior...exterior is clean with newer GL wheels on it.
CL listing says o2 sensor is bad, wont pass emissions.
for $6500 I would travel out of state for a cleaner example.
in his CL add, he knows what he has....but fuck him, i aint in need of a 2nd car...he can drop his price if he wants it sold lol
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Orange C8 got delivered around the corner from my house. Was in a hurry & didn't have time to stop & snag a photo.
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Will have to try to catch it outside, luckily it's on my way out of the 'hood, so shouldn't be hard to miss.
Orange C8 got delivered around the corner from my house. Was in a hurry & didn't have time to stop & snag a photo.
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Will have to try to catch it outside, luckily it's on my way out of the 'hood, so shouldn't be hard to miss.
C8 definitely looks better in person, but it does need to be a bit lower, with wider wheels. I doubt the manual will ever arrive though, sadly.
Heh, if he wants to, it shall be done.
Figured it was like the topic of the day.
Figured it was like the topic of the day.
If i were in the market for a reasonably priced Econ box... i would take WRX in a heartbeat... 6mt of course.. It will provide the best drivability after tuning...
I expected the WRX to jump on everyone with its launch due to its AWD and 6mt.... maybe the driver sucked..
I expected the WRX to jump on everyone with its launch due to its AWD and 6mt.... maybe the driver sucked..
Last edited by oonowindoo; Nov 11, 2020 at 02:02 PM.
They did one between Camry V6, Accord 2.0T, and MZ6 2.5T. The Accord dominated all. Then did one with Accord and CTR, Accord held its own.
To be honest, i think CTR is kinda slow in a straight line with the amount of power it has... and it only weighs 3100 lbs....
But i think the reason Accord held its own against CTR is because of the 10AT vs. 6mt....
But i think the reason Accord held its own against CTR is because of the 10AT vs. 6mt....
Help me out guys. Is there any technical reason one could use to justify an aftermarket blow-off valve on a stock turbo car? 
Yes, I could buy it just because I want it. But inevitably, someone's going to ask what it's for, and I'm going to have to say "I like the pshh".

Yes, I could buy it just because I want it. But inevitably, someone's going to ask what it's for, and I'm going to have to say "I like the pshh".
No one has ever asked me why. Only the usual thumbs up. 
It's been fun but I'm not sure if I would do full VTA in my next turbo car... maybe 50/50. I actually bought the Turbosmart BoV (50/50) first but ended up going with Boomba Racing's BoV (VTA) since they are a local manufacturer and shop.
I actually still have the Turbosmart if you're interested.

It's been fun but I'm not sure if I would do full VTA in my next turbo car... maybe 50/50. I actually bought the Turbosmart BoV (50/50) first but ended up going with Boomba Racing's BoV (VTA) since they are a local manufacturer and shop.
I actually still have the Turbosmart if you're interested.
purpose? not really.
But i dont mind a quiet one that only i could hear it from inside the car... It does add some driving fun like exhaust note.
Now, those loud ones are stupid.... those are just trying to show off they got turbo... which was a thing maybe 2 decades ago. Now everyone and their moms have turbo...
But i dont mind a quiet one that only i could hear it from inside the car... It does add some driving fun like exhaust note.
Now, those loud ones are stupid.... those are just trying to show off they got turbo... which was a thing maybe 2 decades ago. Now everyone and their moms have turbo...
I just saw that the configurator for the new M3/M4 went live so thought I'd check it out. Looks like the normal M3 is equally fast as the M340i for ~$10k more. WTF is the point of the M3 then other than the badge and ability to get a 6MT?
But if you wanna compare 0-60.. 1 is AWD Auto with launch control and the other is a RWD 6mt with a shit load of power, it is not hard to imagine which one could be faster..... from a roll, it will be a different story...
X3M Comp is a low 12 sec or high 11 sec car... that should give you an idea just how fast a M3 will be.... Comp or not... that is only 30hp difference.
I am not sure how i could launch a 6mt M3 with 500hp properly without doing burn outs. From a dig, i think a 6mt RWD M3 might even lose to a WRX... at least initially..
Last edited by oonowindoo; Nov 25, 2020 at 02:15 PM.
Actually let me correct that. X3M Comp is a mid to low 11 sec car....
So an Auto AWD M3.. Comp or not, should be a low 11 sec car all day long or even in the 10s...
6mt RWD.. well that is up to your own ability to launch. I probably will get 13 secs
A true driver's car will be the next Gen M2 Comp. We will see it next year... if it also uses the same engine... that car will fly...and it wont have the same ugly front end...
So an Auto AWD M3.. Comp or not, should be a low 11 sec car all day long or even in the 10s...

6mt RWD.. well that is up to your own ability to launch. I probably will get 13 secs

A true driver's car will be the next Gen M2 Comp. We will see it next year... if it also uses the same engine... that car will fly...and it wont have the same ugly front end...
Last edited by oonowindoo; Nov 25, 2020 at 02:32 PM.
Well it's some shitty marketing if their website doesn't show how good of a car it is but instead says there's no difference lol.
I get that it's AWD auto vs RWD manual but I would get it in RWD manual and not AWD auto. X3M is a different thing entirely.
I get that it's AWD auto vs RWD manual but I would get it in RWD manual and not AWD auto. X3M is a different thing entirely.
I have a feeling that BMW is doing all this shitty things on purpose to justify them phasing out 6mt later.
Can they add 6mt to the Comp Trim or AWD? Yes.
Yet, they only offer the 6mt in the base non-comp RWD form because they know, that will force more ppl to get the 8AT since i believe more ppl would opt for the Comp package with higher HP and faster advertised #s...
So it is more like.. "you guys are screaming for 6mt, here, we gave it to you but you dont want it and you chose 8AT, so that is it" I think by LCI (in 2-3 years) 6mt will be gone all together for both M3/M4...
Can they add 6mt to the Comp Trim or AWD? Yes.
Yet, they only offer the 6mt in the base non-comp RWD form because they know, that will force more ppl to get the 8AT since i believe more ppl would opt for the Comp package with higher HP and faster advertised #s...
So it is more like.. "you guys are screaming for 6mt, here, we gave it to you but you dont want it and you chose 8AT, so that is it" I think by LCI (in 2-3 years) 6mt will be gone all together for both M3/M4...
Last edited by oonowindoo; Nov 25, 2020 at 03:04 PM.













