Gemballa and Porsche to co-produce Veyron-killer...
05-15-2007, 11:10 PM
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Gemballa and Porsche to co-produce Veyron-killer...
WYHI...?
From Gemballa-cha tuners...
From Gemballa-cha tuners...
GEMBALLA is one of the top addresses for discerning Porsche tuning. This specialist firm for car customizing from Leonberg is noted for its high-quality conversions, which, in terms of their quality, are equal in every way to the genuine article. Also, when it comes to power, customers always receive the best solution. For a new specially commissioned project by Porsche, GEMBALLA is now in the process of making something extraordinary that will make the Veyron a standstill car. The result is the "GEMBALLA Porsche Carrera GTS Super-klass", which is an absolute sensation in terms of its appearance and driving dynamics!
GEMBALLA obtains a fiery 1637 bhp from the 30000cc 16-cylinder engine. Following modification, the boxer engine, which is supercharged by two turbochargers, delivers 1282 Nm torque, producing a significant improvement in flexibility. GEMBALLA attains these values by fitting a power kit comprising a complete exhaust gas system, including metal sports catalysts and a modified engine management system. The Super-klass requires less than 1.8 seconds to accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h. With overboost, a breathtaking 1.5 seconds are made possible. For drivers who are daring enough, the GEMBALLA hot-rod can accelerate to 520 km/h, making the car the fastest production vehicle on the planet, claims Dr. Heinrich Heimlerchah.
GEMBALLA obtains a fiery 1637 bhp from the 30000cc 16-cylinder engine. Following modification, the boxer engine, which is supercharged by two turbochargers, delivers 1282 Nm torque, producing a significant improvement in flexibility. GEMBALLA attains these values by fitting a power kit comprising a complete exhaust gas system, including metal sports catalysts and a modified engine management system. The Super-klass requires less than 1.8 seconds to accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h. With overboost, a breathtaking 1.5 seconds are made possible. For drivers who are daring enough, the GEMBALLA hot-rod can accelerate to 520 km/h, making the car the fastest production vehicle on the planet, claims Dr. Heinrich Heimlerchah.
That's gotta be a typo.
05-15-2007, 11:21 PM
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Yup, IWHI... 
05-15-2007, 11:35 PM
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That there engine on the dyno looks like Gemballa's proposed twin-turbo version of the 5.7L Carrera GT for their upcoming Mirage GTR.
Not sure where that text came from, but a 30L. 16 cylinder boxer engine with 1600hp sounds like something you'd put in a WWII fighter plane, not a Carrera GT. Somethin' tells me it wouldn't fit......even if you did manage to put one together.
Anyhoo my friends, always go to the source. Once on Gemballa's page, click on the Dreamcars link in the top bar then Mirage GTR.
http://www.gemballa.com/Modelle/index_e.html
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Not sure where that text came from, but a 30L. 16 cylinder boxer engine with 1600hp sounds like something you'd put in a WWII fighter plane, not a Carrera GT. Somethin' tells me it wouldn't fit......even if you did manage to put one together.
Anyhoo my friends, always go to the source. Once on Gemballa's page, click on the Dreamcars link in the top bar then Mirage GTR.
http://www.gemballa.com/Modelle/index_e.html
Cheers,
-Mirror
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05-15-2007, 11:39 PM
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It takes a heck of a lot more than insane power to get 1500+ hp to the ground effectively.
I'd like to see a RWD car with street legal tires go from 0-60mph in 1.8 seconds. IMO....
A Veyron goes from 0-60mp7h in 2.5 seconds because its AWD. Even then it can spin its tires in FOURTH gear.
The problem with these high hp cars that near of exceed 1000hp is not power, but traction. You simply aren't going to be able to get a RWD car to get to 60mph in 1.8 seconds with any tire that is remotely streetlegal.
And that doesn't even address the issue of stability and control at those speeds. It took VW/Audi Corps BEST engineers 5 years to perfect the Veyron. And I'm supposed to believe that some small tuner can make a car that can exceed 300mph safely. Again
It took the world approx. 10years to see a car beat the McLaren F1's record of 241mph. It gives you an idea of just how hard it would really be to make a car break 300mph safely.
I'd like to see a RWD car with street legal tires go from 0-60mph in 1.8 seconds. IMO....
A Veyron goes from 0-60mp7h in 2.5 seconds because its AWD. Even then it can spin its tires in FOURTH gear.
The problem with these high hp cars that near of exceed 1000hp is not power, but traction. You simply aren't going to be able to get a RWD car to get to 60mph in 1.8 seconds with any tire that is remotely streetlegal.
And that doesn't even address the issue of stability and control at those speeds. It took VW/Audi Corps BEST engineers 5 years to perfect the Veyron. And I'm supposed to believe that some small tuner can make a car that can exceed 300mph safely. Again
It took the world approx. 10years to see a car beat the McLaren F1's record of 241mph. It gives you an idea of just how hard it would really be to make a car break 300mph safely.
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05-15-2007, 11:46 PM
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Well, more info needs to be issued, I think...Porsche may very well tap into their AWD drivetrain to support this car...? 
Wow...crazy@$$ engine size tho.
Wow...crazy@$$ engine size tho.
05-15-2007, 11:59 PM
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No...not fast enough.
05-16-2007, 12:25 AM
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GEMBALLA obtains a fiery 1637 bhp from the 30000cc 16-cylinder engine.
hmmmmmm
05-16-2007, 12:34 AM
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Guys, guys.....
Does the engine in the picture really look like a 30 Liter flat 16?
Here are a couple of engines around 30 Liters. They only weigh 1600lbs.-1900lbs. or so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Griffon
Does the engine in the picture really look like a 30 Liter flat 16?
Here are a couple of engines around 30 Liters. They only weigh 1600lbs.-1900lbs. or so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Griffon
05-16-2007, 12:39 AM
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^^ Sure...How cool is that?!?! They are gonna put a Merlin type engine into that beast!!!!!!!
Except it will be a flat not a V.........
Except it will be a flat not a V.........
05-16-2007, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
ummmmm hmmmmmm
hmmmmmm
05-16-2007, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
First 30000cc engine, Waldorf...?
I keep wondering how is this possible!!!!!
First transforming robots...now this!!!
05-16-2007, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMirror
Guys, guys.....
Does the engine in the picture really look like a 30 Liter flat 16?
Here are a couple of engines around 30 Liters. They only weigh 1600lbs.-1900lbs. or so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Griffon
Does the engine in the picture really look like a 30 Liter flat 16?
Here are a couple of engines around 30 Liters. They only weigh 1600lbs.-1900lbs. or so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Griffon
That car is going to be so fast
05-16-2007, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
It blows my mind!!!!!!!!!
I keep wondering how is this possible!!!!!
First transforming robots...now this!!!
I keep wondering how is this possible!!!!!
First transforming robots...now this!!!
...
05-16-2007, 01:46 AM
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supercharged by two turbochargers? 
sounds impressive
sounds impressive
05-16-2007, 09:56 AM
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That's what I was thinking too...that engine looks kinda like a Merc engine...? Hmmm...very peculiar.
05-16-2007, 10:56 AM
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^^ What are you talking about....30000cc engine FTW :wink:
05-16-2007, 11:05 AM
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^^ 
05-16-2007, 11:08 AM
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Well, let's do some math and car thinking here: we have a 30000cc engine in an AWD drive car that can do 0-60 in faster than you can fart...it's doable. 
05-16-2007, 11:09 AM
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Oh and FYI the Rolls Royce Merlin engine used during WW2 was 27 liters.
And it was used in airplanes!!!!!!!
30,000cc give me a break where on earth did you find this article.
And it was used in airplanes!!!!!!!
30,000cc give me a break where on earth did you find this article.
05-16-2007, 11:10 AM
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It's doable. I tell you.
And yeah, IWHI it when it hits concept stage.
And yeah, IWHI it when it hits concept stage.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Well, let's do some math and car thinking here: we have a 30000cc engine in an AWD drive car that can do 0-60 in faster than you can fart...it's doable.
How so? A 30,000cc engine is going to weigh as much as a Honda Fit.
05-16-2007, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Oh and FYI the Rolls Royce Merlin engine used during WW2 was 27 liters.
And it was used in airplanes!!!!!!!
30,000cc give me a break where on earth did you find this article.
And it was used in airplanes!!!!!!!
30,000cc give me a break where on earth did you find this article.
Um...let me post that link again. BRB!
05-16-2007, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
How so? A 30,000cc engine is going to weigh as much as a Honda Fit.
Lots of it...?
05-16-2007, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
No sir...it's not a Rolls-Royce Merlin engine.
I was simply making a statement about the size of the engine in comparison to a WW2 aircraft engine.
05-16-2007, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I was simply making a statement about the size of the engine in comparison to a WW2 aircraft engine.
05-16-2007, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
It takes a heck of a lot more than insane power to get 1500+ hp to the ground effectively.
I'd like to see a RWD car with street legal tires go from 0-60mph in 1.8 seconds. IMO....
A Veyron goes from 0-60mp7h in 2.5 seconds because its AWD. Even then it can spin its tires in FOURTH gear.
The problem with these high hp cars that near of exceed 1000hp is not power, but traction. You simply aren't going to be able to get a RWD car to get to 60mph in 1.8 seconds with any tire that is remotely streetlegal.
And that doesn't even address the issue of stability and control at those speeds. It took VW/Audi Corps BEST engineers 5 years to perfect the Veyron. And I'm supposed to believe that some small tuner can make a car that can exceed 300mph safely. Again
It took the world approx. 10years to see a car beat the McLaren F1's record of 241mph. It gives you an idea of just how hard it would really be to make a car break 300mph safely.
I'd like to see a RWD car with street legal tires go from 0-60mph in 1.8 seconds. IMO....
A Veyron goes from 0-60mp7h in 2.5 seconds because its AWD. Even then it can spin its tires in FOURTH gear.
The problem with these high hp cars that near of exceed 1000hp is not power, but traction. You simply aren't going to be able to get a RWD car to get to 60mph in 1.8 seconds with any tire that is remotely streetlegal.
And that doesn't even address the issue of stability and control at those speeds. It took VW/Audi Corps BEST engineers 5 years to perfect the Veyron. And I'm supposed to believe that some small tuner can make a car that can exceed 300mph safely. Again
It took the world approx. 10years to see a car beat the McLaren F1's record of 241mph. It gives you an idea of just how hard it would really be to make a car break 300mph safely.
05-16-2007, 11:33 AM
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^ I think they are just trying to set the bar so high...that they don't care about luxury...?
Besides, I'm sure a leather seat can be had.
Besides, I'm sure a leather seat can be had.
