it obviously doesn't snow where you live!

 

330ci was the car it went against. And I am not smoking shit. What is your problem?

It was one of the major magazines that tested the 2 together. 6spd vs BMW 330ci manual. And that was a quote out of the article they typed.

And yes, it was RIGHT with the 3 series in tests. I never said it handled better than them. Of course it won't.

 

LOL, watsup with this fightclub here with G35 Coupe?

first of all, G35 Coupe will beat CL-S/TL-S stock vs stock
6spd vs 6spd, auto vs auto .

And Handling... don't even ask.... any RWD will be more funtodrive than any "heavy" FWD 40/60 weight ratio. The only good handling FWD I could think of is Integra Type-R.... and it doesn't even feels close to any RWD out there. GO TEST DRIVE ONE AND DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT... then you can feel the RWD performance.

but Is both of those consider FAST SPORT CAR? no, still high 13s and 14s cars . Still Get SMOKED by Corvette and Supra from STOCK! and don't talk shit about how you smoke them with your modded car, because if they were modded, you get smoked too.

G35 Coupe has the best exhaust sound from STOCK!,Can't beat the sound from a DOHC V6 with 2 True Exhaust pipe.
I am sure CL-S is so quiet from stock that can't hear nothing from outside.

I have test drove G35 Coupe, CL-S/TL-P,
Just Bought 350Z Track , Owned AccordV6 (working on 35TT6spd), had 96SupraTT(before tradein for Z) had s2000, had GSR.

the DOWNSIDE about G35 Coupe is, ridiculously Huge Car with so little back passenger room and FREAKIN SMALL Luggage space.
I would get CL-S 6spd because of that... because G35c consider a luxury sport coupe, but not a RACE Car, whats up with the lack of space.
To me its not a very practical, thats why I bought the 350z and mod the shit out of it for weekend/race driving...and store it for winter. Drive my Accord as a sleeper.

Now wat I really want is a Winter Race Car.... WRX STI or Evo 7..
then I will be happy .

All the above is just my opinion from experience, not trying to get anyone MAD. PEACE!

 

sure it does- i'm in canada

right now it's -30 outside

i took it out for a spin, haha, almost wrecked it on my street. I just keep spinning in circles on the ice with the neighbors looking at me like

 

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1.It wont be too hard to resell a rebadged SKYLINE.
2.Who gives a shit, its a SKYLINE.
3.if u want memory seats, buy a saturn or honda, if u want a true sport coupe, buy a G35. i dont recall my uncles Ferarri 456GT having memory seats either, what a POS?. And if u think we're "fawked" because we have to recline the seat back simply by lifting a lever, then your mom breastfed u wayyyy too long, im guessing until 17 (if your even that old).
4. I didnt like the spoiler either, but then again its optional. ive seen some cheap ass fugly looking kits put on acuras and other hondas.
5. if u care that much about the dash light, then you're still in a preadolecent "ricer" phase.

u CL guys need to calm down and realize that you are not driving super cars. The car handles like sh*t , definatley not a real sports coupe.FWD is for small economy cars, it has no business in the sports coupe market. your cars are nice for middle aged women who want boring styling and comfy seats to rest their fat asses on, yet still be able to pass a stock accord in fast lane. sure, its as fast as a G35, but only if u add some mods. Bone stock, the G35 can smoke a stock CL & TL. people who compare mods to stock are idiots. I can put a supercharger and NOS on a Kia Rio, slap some sway bars , coil overs, and a fancy new shift knob. and it will probably pull 5sec 0-60. faster than both cars. so if you plan to compare, do it on evenly optioned cars. and please, no more of your RWD Envy.

 

Wow well i'm glad everybody came and told us! I'll go and drive my beater.........

 

Dont forget there are G35 coupes running low low 14s BONE STOCK.

 

G35 cocks:
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CLS cocks:
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I guess that's the end of this debate....

 

True sports coupe is not the G35 either. A true one will only seat 2 people. No back seats. So it would be the Z.

I think you also need to calm down. Because you also are not driving a super car

 

Not the Autos

 

Yeah.... "torqueaholic " is a straight up fag. His best comeback was that the G didn't have memory seats? Give me a freaking break.....how lame is that? How often does somebody really drive your car? Very, very rarely..... he didn't mention a single performance issue, all lame comestic issues...... torqueaholic is a true fag


kkh713x
G35c 5AT/Ivory Pearl/Willow/20's/Htown
http://g35driver.com/rides/detailrid...x=18&vehId=393

 

An auto with headers and a k&n filter can hit 14.1 easy. Ive seen it.

 

thats what happens when you borrows mommies CL too much.

 

the difference between your definition of a sports coupe, and the G35, is 2 back seats. subtract that, and u have a 350z/ Skyline Coupe (which is rumored to be released in 2005 with no back seats). Thats not a long way to go to be considered a sports coupe...on the other hand, u have a lot more work to do on your CL's to get them close to being a sports coupe. 2 small back seats or not, the G35 smokes a CL.

 

You just contridicted yourself. First you said bone stock, now your saying a auto can hit 14.1 easy with headers and K&N.

I didn't even know Headers were out yet for that car since no one is talking about them. hmmm.

 

Really? Not in straight line performance Auto vs Auto. I have yet to see it. Because you said 14.1 with headers and filter. Well CL-S FWD can do that with headers and mufflers only. No Filter. So how can that make it SMOKE the CL-S? lol

 

I'm not done with the cosmetic nit picking!

can I charge infiniti for my dry cleaning bill? they spray painted on silver is still on my shirt! they could have put fake wood or something, spray painted on dashboards are for 20k celica's.

 

Its mommie's TL! don't get it twisted!

 

You obiviously need to READ the post! since i was refering "they" to the mags that you suggested what were "they" smoking opposed to what "you" are smoking...

sidemarker

 

wow somebody please close this thread................

 

First off, I'd like to say, torqueaholic doesnt represent the rest of us CL owners. He's a tool. His arguments were whack. If you're reading this, please never post anything again. Ever. I got a CL-S, and I love it. But, on the other hand, I love G35 6speed sport coupes. And it would burn a hole in our ass if we fucked with it. (Speaking stock for both cars of course) Let's quit the bitching, and all be in peace. Let's love our cars.

 

G35 Coupe no way can SMOKE CL-S

Its faster, but not smoked!

you need a 12s or faster car to Smoke someone...

a full load passenger G35 Coupe will be slower than a CL-S with one driver, vice versa.

but a full load Diablo , haha two seaters... still faster than any car above. even the driver is 300lbs... I assumed 400lbs can't get in there.

 

Who cares????????????

 

Do you?
if you don't care, why you bother to reply?

reason I bought it up cus People really thought .5s faster will make you smoked the other car and no one talks about road condition, weather condition, tire pressure, driver 's weight?

but all in all this thread is meaningless.... Please CLOSE it!

 

I care because i'm a long time member of this board. We don't needed to muddied up by trolls arguing senseless points.

 

Humm, this thread has just provided me with my next race challenge, or should I say victim.

After taking on the SC430 I thought I was running out of challenges, but it looks like the G35 has just been targeted.



Ruf

 

whats your problem? last I heard, we were free to express ourselves on this site, especially when we OWN the car in question!

one question bud, why do you have, "i eat babies" written below your name? is it because your a.......... pShYcHoPaTh?

 

you guys are the ones who started it.

some of you guys are almost as bad as on the kia boards- you got people with their kia rio's claiming to lay the smack-down on '03 cobras( yea, sure they do, 1000 worth of mods and it's running 10s and a rio will smack it around )

 

how about you go back to trolling the kia forums

 

If you are so much better than us then just let it go.....you aren't proving anything by engaging those people who you say are immature. What do they say.....birds of a feather....?

 

torqueaholic,

Amen. I think its hilarious someone from your own forum is basically telling u to shut da f*ck up and you're making everybody look stupid with your lame post...memory seats?..... they're suppose to be on your side man!!! ...... freaking hilarious.... The CL gods have spoken...you're not allowed to post anymore.....

kkh713x

 

you keep mentioning these memory seats! its seems like it really got to you huh? oh well here's another thing to think about! the G35's CHEAP, PLASICKY, interior made by fisher price!

 

and here's what I think about these cock measuring contests:

G35 ==>

CLS ==>

PAGANI ZONDA==================================>

Mclaren F1=====================================>

mucierlago=====================================>

enzo=========================================>


just nice to know your place in the food chain!

 

2 the dude w/the white pearl g35 sitting on dubs--- ur shit is HOTTTTT!

However, we must all realize, each car has its strengths and weaknesses and to blow them out of proportion in regards for either car is plain stupid. We all need to calm down and stop this BS. Theres no need to instigate this, and doing so will only make both sides look like they own used civics/sentras , not $30k+ entry-level lux cars.

Infinity and acura may not be on the same level as MB, bmw or lexus, however, its widely accepted these two franchises have a higher level of class and prestige than alot of other competitors. Its time that the owners showed the class that they are claiming ther respective car exhibits, instead of out-doing the other side in terms of lack of class and distasteful stupidity .

 

You're such an idiot, you cease to amaze me man.... I think everyone on this board figured out except for your dumba$$ that when I mentioned "memory seats" I was referencing what a lame aspect to bring up about a car, because in reality no one uses them. Your a such an idiot....... no wonder your fellow board members don't want you to post anymore, because you make ALL CL's drivers looks stupid.

Anyways, Not to hate...both cars are nice...and both cars have great qualities. Just wanted to hop on this board to stir things up and give you guys something to talk about. I like how everyone is enthusiastic about their cars, as they should be........

kkh713x
G35c 5AT/Ivory Pearl/Willow/20's/Htown
http://g35driver.com/rides/detailrid...x=18&vehId=393

 

Whoa, getting a lil cocky no?

G35 and CL-S are really equals overall. It seems what one has, the other does not and vice versa. They are equals in many departments. I don't think the exhaust note on the G35 is all that really. But that is what the aftermarket it for. The G35 really shines styling wise. Now when a V-8 GTO arrives soon at the same price level with more power, we'll see (as the Holden gets rave reviews everywhere).

 

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...s=330ci&page=1

from July '02 C&D article

Acura
Highs: World-class quality, dazzling engine, the best front-drive system anywhere, any time, bar none.

Lows: Government-issue styling, a bit skimpy in the tire department.
The Verdict: Save for the uninspired bodywork, this is one splendid machine that defies criticism from all but Pecksniffians like us.

We were initially underwhelmed with the Acura 3.2CL Type-S, perhaps because it was shod in notably ordinary bodywork compared with the snazzy, tightly integrated BMW, and perhaps because we had low expectations regarding its ability—as a front-driver—to run with the Bimmer in the twisty stuff.
Although the impression persisted that the Acura design team might have shown a bit more leg with regard to the Acura's externals, our reservations about its handling went out the window after the first curve was negotiated. The car's spanking-new helical limited-slip differential produces an amazing transformation that conceals any suggestion that it is a front-driver. Logged one tester after a hard pass through a series of switchbacks, "Phobic about front drive, bud? Try this! I got your front drive right here!" Another notation: "Love the way this bites into corners. The limited slip really works. Inspires lots of confidence."
Perhaps a 10/10ths all-out thrash on a racetrack might reveal front-drive handling quirks such as torque steer and latent understeer owing to the CL's 60/40 weight distribution. But brisk highway travel (7-8/10ths) offers up a package with predictable, neutral handling and minimal body roll. The Acura CL is simply the finest-handling front-drive road car we've ever tested.
The SOHC all-aluminum VTEC V-6 produces 260 horsepower through a broad torque range and offers the bonus of a lusty exhaust grumble under hard acceleration. It is hooked to an all-new, cable-operated six-speed gearbox that permits 80-mph cruising speeds with the tach loitering at 2750 rpm in top gear. But one puzzles: Is the extra cog really needed, or is it more technological gadgetry like four-wheel steering? Although the six-speed is a pleasure, the five-speed onboard the BMW is every bit as effective in seeking maximum performance and only boosts the revs at 80 mph to a modest 3200. The BMW also produces more miles per gallon (30 versus 28) based on EPA highway numbers. So what's the point of six speeds, other than to expect seven or more in some pointless race for a bigger number?
Aside from a clutch that bites a bit impolitely on takeoffs and some mild gripes about sun glare from the optional $2150 OnStar GPS navigation system, there is little to criticize about the Acura's engineering. The fit and finish is standard Acura, i.e., jewel-like. Back-seat room is surprisingly commodious, and access is enhanced by an automatic power front seat that slides when the seatback is moved forward. Although both cars offer surprising rear-seat accommodations for even a pair of six-footers, the Acura scored slightly better, thanks to a higher roofline. But make no mistake, the Acura 3.2CL and the BMW 330Ci are legitimate four-place grand-tourers, not faux two-plus-twos with back seats suitable only for small children and Toulouse-Lautrec's relatives.
Compared with the BMW's typically fussy and complex instrument controls, the Acura's are logical and user-friendly. The large windshield and the rather tall cabin offer excellent visibility and sightlines.
If there are shortcomings in the CL's package, they fall into two categories, one based on empirical evidence, the other purely subjective. The latter deals with the styling, which seems tall compared with the BMW (although the car is actually 0.6 inch lower than the Bimmer) and borderline banal as a shape sheathing such an excellent package.
The test track revealed numbers that can only be related to a simple lack of rubber.
The Acura's 215/50VR-17 Michelin Pilots are substantially skinnier than the Bimmer's Continentals (225/ 45ZR-17 in front and 245/40ZR-17 rear). Although the Acura's skidpad performance was minimally better (0.86 versus 0.85),

the CL was way off the mark in the emergency-lane-change maneuver (60.5 mph versus 63.9 mph) and worse by 11 feet (178 feet versus 167 feet) in the 70-to-0-mph braking test. Although the acceleration numbers were essentially identical, a slight advantage in the BMW's content count doomed the Acura CL to being runner-up by a lousy single point, its massive advantages in the price department notwithstanding. A cop-out? Another rollover in the face of the BMW image juggernaut? Read on before you decide.

BMW
Highs: A beautifully integrated amalgam of high-performance, comfort, and sinful pleasure.
Lows: Eye-watering sticker shock; fussy, button-pocked instrument panel.
The Verdict: What price glory? A bargain in this case.

This is getting as tiresome for us as it is for you—another notch in BMW's gun following one of our comparison tests. But what do we do? We drive 'em. We test 'em. We report. We (not you) decide. We puzzle over how these Bavarians keep machines in their 3- and 5-series stables on top of the heap, at least in the realm of enthusiast drivers like us. To be sure, the Acura 3.2CL Type-S is one superb automobile, but it was facing off against a BMW packed to the doorsills with not only great engineering but also enough charisma to crash a Hollywood Oscar party. A tough combination to beat, especially when it bolsters its image with raw, sideways-by-the-silo driving fun.

Let's get past the negatives first. Why do German cars possess instrument panels with as many buttons, switches, and dials as an offshore oil rig? The Acura's panel, on the other hand, is clean, simple, and logical.
Although the Bimmer hooks up with crablike resolve in the corners, it produces considerably more body roll than the Acura. This might have gone unnoticed had we not switched back and forth repeatedly between the two machines. The BMW is a joy to drive, but even with its onboard yaw control (offered with traction control, both of which the Acura lacked), it creates the illusion of slight wobbliness in the corners despite the high velocities that can be maintained.
Beyond that, the 330Ci is an unmitigated hoot. We have prattled endlessly about the 3-series overall and the 330i in particular regarding their inherent driving pleasures, and it borders on pointless to repeat the accolades here. Leave it at this: The 330Ci remains the finest mid-size sporting two-door on the planet, despite a valiant effort by the Acura gang to displace it.

But still, the nagging issue of the extra seven grand must be dealt with. For openers, the BMW has a minuscule edge in performance (0.1 second to 60, 0.2 in the quarter, and the already noted advantage in braking and lane changing). Beyond that, the 330Ci comes standard with stability and traction controls, neither of which is available on the six-speed Acura.

Moreover, there was general agreement that the BMW seats are more comfortable. Our drivers felt more integrated into the overall machine than we did in the Acura. "I feel much more tucked into the BMW cockpit, as opposed to feeling slightly perched on the Acura seat," noted one staffer. Another said, "The seats have a comfort edge on the Acura's, with longer, adjustable bottom cushions, more padding, better bolsters."
A scribble in the BMW test logbook about summed it up: "There is a boyish enthusiasm about this thing that is eternally endearing. Price-wise, it's hard to justify another seven grand, but damn, it's a complete machine. It's hard not to love. The slickness of the controls and the handling, coupled with the faintly guttural exhaust note at speed, only adds to the appeal. But the question nags, is it worth the extra thousands?"
After 700 miles of hard driving, we say yes. Not an unqualified yes, because the Acura is a worthy challenger and because the issue of value is (1) subjective and (2) dependent on the vagaries of the used-car market. BMWs and Acuras both tend to hold up reasonably well in the resale wars. Based on one leasing program we consulted, the two vehicles, after three years, are expected to retain a residual value of 59 percent of the original price for the BMW and 51 percent for the Acura. These numbers vary, of course, based on geographical location, option levels, wear and tear, mileage, and other criteria and only offer a general gauge of value.
So we declare another victory, albeit a razor-thin one, for BMW. You may recall that we similarly honored its four-door brother in our February "36 on the Floor" comparo. But the gap steadily narrows, and it may be only a matter of time before the king is dethroned. When and if that happens, you'll be the first to know.

 

you forgot one:

Accord =>

 

LOL

Are you saying that perhaps I've got a BIG HEAD now that I've beat the 330, Maxima, Altima, M3 (last-gen) a Mustang GT and now a SC430???

Well maybe. :o

Well I did get whipped by a WS6 by 3 car lenghts to 95MPH. Oh well, can win them all.

Ruf

 

I agree. That white G35 is pretty hot. These arguements are pretty funny because both sides state good points and dumb points. This has been an entertaining thread at the very least!