Foolish to buy 2004 GTO?

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Old 02-13-2006, 02:37 PM
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steve, here's a stock LS2 dyno for you, I picked one that was about in the middle of the #'s i've seen, i've seen from high 330's to low 360's on completely stock LS2's. This gives you an idea of what you are workin w/


Old 02-13-2006, 03:46 PM
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btw, Steve, I still can't believe how much attention this car gets, I constantly get the thumbs up from drivers and have been stopped 2x's now at the grocery store w/ people asking me "is that really what I think it is"
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They're planning a complete redesign for 2007, so get 'em while they're hot! Next gen will be based on the RWD Zeta platform that will also be the basis for the new Camaro. But will they go backward from 400 hp?
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
They're planning a complete redesign for 2007, so get 'em while they're hot! Next gen will be based on the RWD Zeta platform that will also be the basis for the new Camaro. But will they go backward from 400 hp?

actually, they say the next GTO is axed


and that the new camaro will no longer be produced on the Zeta platform. Next camaro will have the 400 HP LS2, but they plan on tweeking it to be like the new hemi's where it'll only run on half the cylinders around town, etc.
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I think you may be right. Now that I double-check my source, it was from 2003, and I *have* heard since that the Zeta platform is dead. However, with the release of the new Camaro concept, surely there'll be a Pontiac sibling, regardless of platform. How can the "Performance Division" go without?
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GRRRRR about killing the GTO.
Old 02-13-2006, 10:57 PM
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steve hasnt been in here in a day two...i wonder if a surprise is coming
Old 02-14-2006, 12:16 AM
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I'm thinking about making the switch over when summer starts too.

I the GTO's.
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Ok this thread is officially making me want a GTO.
Maybe this summer.
What scares me is the insurance for a 20 year old with a 400HP V8.
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
steve hasnt been in here in a day two...i wonder if a surprise is coming

He's in Mexico with his girlfriend and her family. I think he's still trying to sell the CL before he can get the GTO.
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Its amazing how I cread other car forums makes me want that car. So far thats how Ive grown attached to the s2k, 350z, and now the GTO

The PT forums need to kick more ass
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Been reading up on paint chipping and peeling problems for the '04 GTOS.

Looks like the '05's have problems too (easily chipped paint on front bumper) as well as peeling paint on door handles and other weird paint related anomalies all over the car.

Everything minus the chipping is able to be fixed under warranty however.
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unfortunately, all cars have paint problems these days, I've been doing a new bentley coupe for a family friend the last few months, i've slowly noticed a ton or chips and hte paint is peeling on the rear fender. Car is waiting for a Bentley representitive to come look at it
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Originally Posted by CLpower
unfortunately, all cars have paint problems these days, I've been doing a new bentley coupe for a family friend the last few months, i've slowly noticed a ton or chips and hte paint is peeling on the rear fender. Car is waiting for a Bentley representitive to come look at it


Chips cant be avoided though.... I have a ton.
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I love the GTO. I want one.
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Originally Posted by CLpower
unfortunately, all cars have paint problems these days, I've been doing a new bentley coupe for a family friend the last few months, i've slowly noticed a ton or chips and hte paint is peeling on the rear fender. Car is waiting for a Bentley representitive to come look at it
My fears are put to rest then.

I'm going to get impulse blue with blue leather.

Fucking hot.
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Originally Posted by Loseit
I love the GTO. I want one.

how is it, you helped talk me in to getting it but don't have one


Have I said how much I love this car
Old 02-14-2006, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
how is it, you helped talk me in to getting it but don't have one


Have I said how much I love this car
Have you been having leaking problems? There's some threads that I found on ls1gto that sort of disturbed me =/

how about the paint chips? Anything w/ that yet? ( realize you just got your car though )
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seems all the leaking problems were resolved on 06's, none report leaks. It also seems the leaking problems are a lot more rare then they seem to be. As far as chips, I have a few rock chips already, but that's expected w/ the freeways I drive on. When I had gotten my acura repainted the front bumper was basically ruined w/in a month. I really wish I had putten a clear bra on this car on day one
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Originally Posted by CLpower
how is it, you helped talk me in to getting it but don't have one


Have I said how much I love this car
I am still trying to figure that one out. I have convinced a couple of people to buy the car here. It is a great car. I just have too many things going on right now. That added with my tiny salary just makes it a real REAL bad idea. So, we'll see.

I love that fact athat I can love a new American car!!
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I just ran a modded cobra vert, guy had a pulley, exhaust and intake. We were dead even from 60-120. First time I had gone WOT into 4th, fucking thing chirped


Some guys on ls1gto.com went tot he track this weekend, stock 05's were in high 12's w/ DR's. One guy w/ just a muffler delete and DR's ran 12.5
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Conflicting reports....Road&Track's article about the upcoming Camaro says there WILL be a next GTO, while I believe it was Motor Trend that recently said the Goat is definitely dead. The Camaro concept is actually based on teh GTO, R&T says. Strange.
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What about Autoweek?
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Steve I found the deal of the century....

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61056

05 red/black m6 for sale. 825 miles. $24,000
Car is perfect but I need to make room in garage for new C6 that is on the way. Located near Dayton, Ohio.
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Dang those prices are good. I'd be skeptical considering he's a newbie.
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