Final Decision: Trading 04 TL for an S2000
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Final Decision: Trading 04 TL for an S2000
looks like im going to get a used S2000. had my 04 TL for about a year and a half. put over $3000 into it and many hours of work.
i was very suprised that my dad was actually going to get an S2000. (im only 18, and im very lucky to have a family that doesnt make me pay for my car)i talked to him a couple months ago and he was more towards the "no" side, kinda because he never saw the way i drive and he never saw me drive a manual before...(TL is auto) i bought a 96 civic to learn stick on and as a beater car.
im in hong kong right now and thats where my parents live. so this year i got my international license and started driving around hk with my dad. he took home a 360 spider(his company car) https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1&page=1&pp=25
and let me drive it for a weekend with him in the car. and he gained a lot of trust in me. he said if i can handle this car, i can most likely handle other cars.
after that weekend, i took out his car by myself (an S-class, not the 360) and he didnt worry at all. so couple nights ago i talked to him again about it and he said yes. i was really happy, i told him that i can get the car ive always wanted and he can save a little on car payments.
we bought the TL in the first place was because he didnt allow me to get a stick, so we went with the auto TL
so once i get back to US i gotta sell the car quick or trade it in.
i have 2 options that i want your opinions in:
1. lease an 2005 S2000, there is a amazing lease deal right now for it. (3300 down and 300 a month)but the only thing is that i cant mod it.
2. buy a used one, 02-03 are pretty cheap on the market now. butim afraid theyre gunna have their shares of problems because most of the S2000s out there have been abused to hell. and i will mod it as time passes
which one should i go with?
i was very suprised that my dad was actually going to get an S2000. (im only 18, and im very lucky to have a family that doesnt make me pay for my car)i talked to him a couple months ago and he was more towards the "no" side, kinda because he never saw the way i drive and he never saw me drive a manual before...(TL is auto) i bought a 96 civic to learn stick on and as a beater car.
im in hong kong right now and thats where my parents live. so this year i got my international license and started driving around hk with my dad. he took home a 360 spider(his company car) https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1&page=1&pp=25
and let me drive it for a weekend with him in the car. and he gained a lot of trust in me. he said if i can handle this car, i can most likely handle other cars.
after that weekend, i took out his car by myself (an S-class, not the 360) and he didnt worry at all. so couple nights ago i talked to him again about it and he said yes. i was really happy, i told him that i can get the car ive always wanted and he can save a little on car payments.
we bought the TL in the first place was because he didnt allow me to get a stick, so we went with the auto TL
so once i get back to US i gotta sell the car quick or trade it in.
i have 2 options that i want your opinions in:
1. lease an 2005 S2000, there is a amazing lease deal right now for it. (3300 down and 300 a month)but the only thing is that i cant mod it.
2. buy a used one, 02-03 are pretty cheap on the market now. butim afraid theyre gunna have their shares of problems because most of the S2000s out there have been abused to hell. and i will mod it as time passes
which one should i go with?
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get a used one off a private sale. You'll end up saving more.
And since you want to mod it anyways..buy used and use the extra $$$$ to mod that thing.
Try to find one with lower milege so that there is less of a chance of abuse.
And since you want to mod it anyways..buy used and use the extra $$$$ to mod that thing.
Try to find one with lower milege so that there is less of a chance of abuse.
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i found one at my local dealership online. 2002 white/red int
thats the combo i want. but it was 36000 miles, which i know for a fact that the previous owner was a leasee.
they want 24000 for it, prob gunna offer them 19, if they say no, ill be on my way to other dealerships
i havent really seen many private sellers
thats the combo i want. but it was 36000 miles, which i know for a fact that the previous owner was a leasee.
they want 24000 for it, prob gunna offer them 19, if they say no, ill be on my way to other dealerships
i havent really seen many private sellers
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http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ca...dist=10#vdptop
this is the one im talking about
this is the one im talking about
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im asking 29...kbb says its worth 28.5
i live with my aunt in US, my mom comes visit once in a while and i go back to hk every xmas and summer
i live with my aunt in US, my mom comes visit once in a while and i go back to hk every xmas and summer
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i found one at my local dealership online. 2002 white/red int
thats the combo i want. but it was 36000 miles, which i know for a fact that the previous owner was a leasee.
they want 24000 for it, prob gunna offer them 19, if they say no, ill be on my way to other dealerships
i havent really seen many private sellers
thats the combo i want. but it was 36000 miles, which i know for a fact that the previous owner was a leasee.
they want 24000 for it, prob gunna offer them 19, if they say no, ill be on my way to other dealerships
i havent really seen many private sellers
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thats fine with me...ill pay 20 tops for that car, if they dont accept..ill be off to another dealership.
my cousins friend works at the used lot at honda...so im sure he can get me a nicer deal. im just not sure if they have the same combo i want.
my cousins friend works at the used lot at honda...so im sure he can get me a nicer deal. im just not sure if they have the same combo i want.
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Originally Posted by TSXDude
just wondering... why can't you mod a '05
i have no plans on buying a new one because it depreciates too much, so leasing an 05 is the way to go, and i have no plans of buy-back if i lease
so theres no point in dumping money into it
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I got a decent deal on mine from Carmax. Better prices than I found anywhere privately. Got an 02 with only 20,000 miles on it.
They aren't necessarily all beat on. The majority of s2k drivers are older, and most have it as a weekend car. Find one with low miles and no mods and chances are it was babied.
They aren't necessarily all beat on. The majority of s2k drivers are older, and most have it as a weekend car. Find one with low miles and no mods and chances are it was babied.
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because 2.0 has 9k rev limit
this is from my own judgement, since theyre all making parts for the new 2.2, the 2.0 parts price will drop a bit.
the 2.2s all have clutch delay, which smoothes out shift and wont let you shift hard. they do have a mod for it tho
this is from my own judgement, since theyre all making parts for the new 2.2, the 2.0 parts price will drop a bit.
the 2.2s all have clutch delay, which smoothes out shift and wont let you shift hard. they do have a mod for it tho
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seriously go with the 04, do not get caught up with the 9k rev limit, it sucks compared to the 2.2
i have owned both and regret every minute of getting rid of the 04 for an 03
i have owned both and regret every minute of getting rid of the 04 for an 03
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clutch delay????
my 04 was faster in any gear than all of the modded 03's (non-blown) i used to hook up with through s2ki.com
just plain faster to start, and having inch wider rims all the way around made it handle way better imo also...
my 04 was faster in any gear than all of the modded 03's (non-blown) i used to hook up with through s2ki.com
just plain faster to start, and having inch wider rims all the way around made it handle way better imo also...
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yea...clutch delay, a slave cylinder smooths out the shift so u can chirp tires, it compensates for drivetrain shock. i test drove one and theres no way you can spin tires while shifting gears
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man you should drive the 360 by yourself in HK....i believe you will pick up a lot of girls at Lan Kwai Fong!!!
or you can borrow that to me so i can kill some girls for one night stand
man you should drive the 360 by yourself in HK....i believe you will pick up a lot of girls at Lan Kwai Fong!!!
or you can borrow that to me so i can kill some girls for one night stand
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to tell u the truth, he honestly hates the way any sports car rides...he bought it because his partner paid half and that was when he made some money off a project.
so no elise for him, it would be nice if there was an elise for me, but id prob take s2k because parts are prob really high for that little machine
so no elise for him, it would be nice if there was an elise for me, but id prob take s2k because parts are prob really high for that little machine
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Originally Posted by samkws
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man you should drive the 360 by yourself in HK....i believe you will pick up a lot of girls at Lan Kwai Fong!!!
or you can borrow that to me so i can kill some girls for one night stand
man you should drive the 360 by yourself in HK....i believe you will pick up a lot of girls at Lan Kwai Fong!!!
or you can borrow that to me so i can kill some girls for one night stand
haha no kiddin...i wish i can take it out myself, but i doubt he'll let me. its actually at some place being sold, so i cant take another drive.
hes more of a luxury car kinda person, so he said hes planning to get the CLS or the new S in a year or two
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Originally Posted by cliff
yea...clutch delay, a slave cylinder smooths out the shift so u can chirp tires, it compensates for drivetrain shock. i test drove one and theres no way you can spin tires while shifting gears
and what exactly would be the point of spinning tires while shifting gears, if you really wanna be a ricer just change out the clutch
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since when was spinning tires considered rice? i guess everyone has interpretation of rice differently in mind. i guess a lot of ppl over s2ki with 04-05 s2000s are rice...
my vocab of rice is overly rediculous body kits and lights....and people who have those kits and have no power to back it up.
last time i checked out some s2000, it doesnt have ugly body kit and its got power to back it up...
so whats ur point???
i see that you have a 03 s2000, meaning you dont have an idea of what im talking about unless u test drove an 04-05, the shifts are off by far, i like to feel the power when i shift...not some slave cylinder smoothing it out. (even though the power is still there, you dont feel it as much)
my vocab of rice is overly rediculous body kits and lights....and people who have those kits and have no power to back it up.
last time i checked out some s2000, it doesnt have ugly body kit and its got power to back it up...
so whats ur point???
i see that you have a 03 s2000, meaning you dont have an idea of what im talking about unless u test drove an 04-05, the shifts are off by far, i like to feel the power when i shift...not some slave cylinder smoothing it out. (even though the power is still there, you dont feel it as much)
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my point is that if you seriously want to spin tires, and that for some random reason is important to you
you will be sorely disappointed with the s2000
you will be sorely disappointed with the s2000
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Originally Posted by 03typeS6spd
my point is that if you seriously want to spin tires, and that for some random reason is important to you
you will be sorely disappointed with the s2000
you will be sorely disappointed with the s2000
the ap1 is perfect the way it shifts
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Originally Posted by cliff
haha no kiddin...i wish i can take it out myself, but i doubt he'll let me. its actually at some place being sold, so i cant take another drive.
hes more of a luxury car kinda person, so he said hes planning to get the CLS or the new S in a year or two
hes more of a luxury car kinda person, so he said hes planning to get the CLS or the new S in a year or two
anyways u can borrow me some exotic cars when i am back to HK, i live in central, very close to Lan Kwai Fong, plus I know Nicolas Tse's sister (Tse Ting Ting) in person, so we can all hang out and party together~
my parents now driving a Lexus IS200 in HK, it's slow, it's highly moddable but i cannot mod it coz my dad needs to drive his clients around....need sth more powerful and sexier
or maybe i get myself a Honda Jazz when i go back and put some Mugen body kit
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I did not know you could chirp gears in the S2k.
I have a 2005 and am still in the break-in period (384 miles) and was not able to chirp 2nd during the test drive of one I did not buy.
Interesting. BTW, IMO, chirping a gear is not rice. My 96 Maxima SE 5mt would ocassionally chirp 3rd and I would be in my glory.
Chirping gears > Burn-outs
I have a 2005 and am still in the break-in period (384 miles) and was not able to chirp 2nd during the test drive of one I did not buy.
Interesting. BTW, IMO, chirping a gear is not rice. My 96 Maxima SE 5mt would ocassionally chirp 3rd and I would be in my glory.
Chirping gears > Burn-outs
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Originally Posted by samkws
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anyways u can borrow me some exotic cars when i am back to HK, i live in central, very close to Lan Kwai Fong, plus I know Nicolas Tse's sister (Tse Ting Ting) in person, so we can all hang out and party together~
my parents now driving a Lexus IS200 in HK, it's slow, it's highly moddable but i cannot mod it coz my dad needs to drive his clients around....need sth more powerful and sexier
or maybe i get myself a Honda Jazz when i go back and put some Mugen body kit
anyways u can borrow me some exotic cars when i am back to HK, i live in central, very close to Lan Kwai Fong, plus I know Nicolas Tse's sister (Tse Ting Ting) in person, so we can all hang out and party together~
my parents now driving a Lexus IS200 in HK, it's slow, it's highly moddable but i cannot mod it coz my dad needs to drive his clients around....need sth more powerful and sexier
or maybe i get myself a Honda Jazz when i go back and put some Mugen body kit
honda jazz is prob the hottest thing to mod in hk right now, all the mags have parts for them, cant find any jdm s2k parts though lol...there seems to be more minivan parts than the s2k
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Originally Posted by Liftedoff420
damn sounds like you got it set little nigga...my parents gave me shit for buying a old 240sx and you got a s2000
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Originally Posted by EmuMessenger
I did not know you could chirp gears in the S2k.
I have a 2005 and am still in the break-in period (384 miles) and was not able to chirp 2nd during the test drive of one I did not buy.
Interesting. BTW, IMO, chirping a gear is not rice. My 96 Maxima SE 5mt would ocassionally chirp 3rd and I would be in my glory.
Chirping gears > Burn-outs
I have a 2005 and am still in the break-in period (384 miles) and was not able to chirp 2nd during the test drive of one I did not buy.
Interesting. BTW, IMO, chirping a gear is not rice. My 96 Maxima SE 5mt would ocassionally chirp 3rd and I would be in my glory.
Chirping gears > Burn-outs
you cant spin tires in the 04-05, unless you lose traction in a turn or something.
the slave cylinder smoothes the shifting out. so when you do a clutch drop, instead of all the drivetrain shock going to the tranny and the diff, the clutch takes care of it.
people over at s2ki have figured out a way to change that, they either replaced the slave cylinder with an 03, or take something out of the 04's cylinder
this makes the clutch wear out a lot more, but its a lot cheaper over tranny and diff, mainly diff
i agree with chirping isnt rice, im in my glory too when i chirp 2nd in my 96 civic (106hp)
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