etxxz

I'm wondering if anyone has tried this.

I seen it live and got curious, i downloaded tons drifting videos, looked up techniques and attempted it a couple of hours ago in an empty parking lot (also raining) . Heh, like a-tl, i even found a drifting forum!! http://www.drifting.com/forums/

I've been into this for over 3months and now im seriously going head first...i bet you guys would like a piece of the action...check out this stuff you'll love it, im sure more than 1 of you will try it.

Off course, i know this is not the car for this so i'm looking to buy an 89-92 240SX/180SX or 89supra or hopefully the classic drifting vehicle, the Toyota Corolla AE86 TRUENO baby...i've found many for under $800 and i already got parental permission to buy a car so i can "fix it up" (beat the crap out of it) which are beter suited for drifting since they are frount mounted engine with rear wheel traction (FR)

ENJOY!!

*btw i did good...since i've done tons of 180s and sideways slides in the past with the stock rubber when it had -10%thread left! i handle this situation well enough to know what to do. i even imagined a curve and while sideways at like 30mps, sunk the gas and OH, IT FELT GOOOOD!!

*there's lots of e-break usage since i'm not experienced enough to just pund the breaks and naturally put the car into oversteer by shifting the weight...i'll get there though.

etxxz

OH, dont FLAME me for BEING CRAZY...check it out...seriously, you'll like it.

1SICKLEX

Besides the fact it looks hells ghey in a fwd car, it would take WAY more practice than a RWD car.
It's easy to lose the tail on a high-powered RWD car. On a FWD car, sigh.....

samkws

our cars are too heavy to do drifting without the e-brakes

and we got ABS working

VTEC 2

yo..wassup etxxz , if u fond an AE86 or more than one..let know bor..i would to pick up one those start fixin it up or use it learn"How to fix a car"..lol..thx man

benzo555

etxxz

ABS or not wont matter too much...we wanna transfer the weight to the front wheels while we steer to acoomplish oversteer. ABS or no ABS is gonna happen.

my best friend got an 85 Ae86 trueno...in very good conditions for $500 thats why i got into this!! i'm looking for one too. even though i'm thinking about the 180SX because its lighter and has more power...and there's one very close to me for "300 or bo"

IF i find a trueno i'll buy it...oh, are there any Levins in the US?

*BTW, i came just got home and i tried break drifting technique and i kinda got my rears to slide, i wasnt going fast enough though (spring to 45, break to 30 and turn.) i must be doing something wrong

etxxz

Oh, here's how...vid by the pros:
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http://crabdrifting.com/pictures/cv4.wmv

TeknoKing

I can name at least 3 things that make a TL a bad car for drifting:

1) Our Cars are Heavy and Sluggish
2) FWD
3) E-Brake is not exactly a practical one, since its a freaken pedal.

But its def. fun on a RWD, I used to play around like that in the snow on the 330i i had for a few months.

etxxz, if you like it and you enjoy it, while doing it safely, go for it! have fun!

etxxz

yeah, i took apart the clicky thing on our ebreak that way i can just kik it and it'll release again...hehe its a start!! i mean, its not like i gotta worry about shifting. (i can put together in 10min)

safety #1
http://www.students.uwf.edu/arb19/images/Mudding.wmv
Enjoy.

poohlikeshunny

hahaha....you've watched initial D haven't you?

touchdown

My gf drives an '03 TL, nice car, terrible for any form of drifting. I drive a turbocharged 240SX and the handling differences are staggering. No matter how many suspension upgrades you have the TL is still just too big and completely the wrong layout. You could probably custom fab a hand brake if your serious and also replace the every panal and door with carbon fiber to save weight. But for all of that its still FWD and by then you could have built a pretty nice drift b*tch car.

Also in the drifting world, drifting forums is a joke.

etxxz

its not like im using the TL for drifting, its just fun for now...i do NOT wanna destroy this TL.

forums might be lame but its definetly a way to start out. i'm already in the hunt for this 88 180SX or SE cant remeber, (small fastback rwd) What do you recomend a 240 or the 180? 300?? (theres one for $700 close to me)

ever gone drifting in your 240?

i watched 3stages in one week this summer (20hrs of japanese lessons w/ subtitles)

touchdown

Im not going to brag like most people want to do and say I am some awesome drifter. I've messed around at a few local events and such but my car is used as a daily driver for now since its the only one I have and drifting is incredibly hard on cars and expensive.

I'll just clarify a few things for you. As mentioned, you have heard of the 180SX and 240SX (there is no 300SX, just the 300ZX which is not a good choice for a drift car). The 180SX was never released in North America, it just came out in other areas of the world like Japan, and Europe. They can be imported to the US but not legalized. They were produced from 1989-1998 and have a chassis code called "S13" with a various array of turbocharged and non turbo engines. The S13 180SX in Japan is similar to the 1989-1993 240SX hatchback in the US in body style. The S13 Silvia is similar to the 1989-1993 240SX coupe except with different headlights not released in the US.

The 240SX was produced in North America only. It came with a 2.4 Liter engine. The S13 240SX was produced from 1989-1994 and is known for having more understeer when drifting, thus increasing the need to invest in a good suspension. The fastback model is usually an SE or LE model and the 1991-1993 fastbacks may have 4 wheel steering (which drifters dislike). The S13 coupes are usually an XE model and never came with Hicas 4 wheel steering. The S14 240SX was produced from 1995-1998 and has a tendency for oversteer.

If you want to have an easy car to drift, the AE86 is usually the top choice since it is relatively easy to learn on. Its a 1985-1987 Toyota Corolla (not the SR5 version). It is becoming more rare though since its older and its not exactly the best looking car to most people, so this is why people choose the Nissan S13 and S14 240SX.

etxxz

dang, you really know this stuff...even though i thought the AE86 was introduced in '83...they must feel like driving an overpowered gocart.

anyhow i got incontact with this network that imports all these cars to canada...i just dont think i could get it into the US...so much for the 300Zx then. Are the old 240SXs (89 under) worth getting?

peace.

poohlikeshunny

hahaha...i just got volume 7 with acts 19,20, and 21 on it...hot shit! The sileighty was pretty badass!

etxxz

heh, i wouldnt know the act...all i know is thats there's 3stages with like 10-15chapters each and then there's an extra to the stage three when Tak joins the two XXXXX brothers in this team and then they kik everyone's ass.

i havent watched that 4th stage even though i have 3cds with this stage...i have all the other stages in like 9cds. All downloaded though. (jap w/ titles)

Oh, i offered $700 for this 89 240 in broward county, waiting for the guy to say YES! with like 130,000mi, very good inside, it "runs great" with the only problem being the paint is nasty, but not dented/hit, but what would i care if i'm literally going to destroy it anyways. Im not even going to register it nor get an insurace (FL requires both) i know this private place where i'm allowed to F around. IM SO PUMPED!!

touchdown

One thing that is pretty essential for drifting once someone is remotely serious about it is a limited slip differential. The 1989 didnt come with a limited slip of any kind, some of the 1991-1993's came with viscous limited slip differentials, which are ok for people learning but not a replacement for real clutch type LSD's. An LSD will run around $800-1000 generally and what they all do is make the rear tires basically turn at the same speed and/or lock up while moving (VLSD's range from $250-400, I just sold one last month for $250). The 1989 you would buy will come with an open differential, this just spins the tire that is giving the least resistance. And since that varies, it makes the power distrobution very unstable. Basically if you learn on an open diff, you will be completely disoriented and have to reteach yourself once you get an LSD. Also if you really start to get into it, suspension componants become more and more important (coilovers, adjustable arms, bushings, and brakes).

A 1989-1990 240SX is different from a 1991-1994 240SX mainly because it comes with a single overhead cam engine called the KA24E. The 1991-1998 240SX's come with DOHC KA24DE's that put down about 15 more hp and torque. The problem that people run into with 1989-1990's is that if you decide to swap the engine out for a turbocharged JDM engine (SR20DET, CA18DET, RB20DET, RB25DET, RB26DETT) you will need the power steering lines off of a 1991+ 240SX and you will also need either the tach gauge off of a 1991-1994 240SX or the JDM cluster.

In case you havent heard of it yet, you can always check out this one DVD by Best Motoring International called "The Drift Bible." Where this man named Keiichi Tsuchiya (The "Drift King" of Japan) goes through the basics of beginner drifting. You can buy the DVD on ebay or something or try to download it, ive seen it hosted a few times but its about 700 mb.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...492605989&rd=1
http://www.bestmotoringvideo.com/buy_08_qt.html

etxxz

nice THANKS!

*edit: i have a couple downloaded vids with him in it, never knew he was the "king" but i have heard of this bible. thx broda. i'll tell you all when the deal is thru.