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Go Evo Go!

 

One more lap and the GT3 would've won, and two more laps and the NSX-R would've placed 2nd.

 

I'd still take the NSX over all of those though!

 

good old best motoring, it's pretty rare to see the NSX-R loses to the Evo! Poor Nismo though....

 

GT3 would have won but im not sure about the NSX beating out the Evo MR RS.

 

Maybe not, but it looked like both the GT3 and NSX were catching up. Those Z's were way back though.

 

GT3 should have won!!!!!

 

Damn, an RX8 def cant hold of those cars like that

 

dam evo FTMFW!

 

good race. gt3, good come back. the evo just sat back and relaxed. the nsx, ehh no compaints. but the 350's...sucker~

 

if you have the full episode, you'd find out that the NSX-R lapped about 0.5s faster that he evo. Anyways, the JDM evo is so much faster than the USDM one.

In case you want to see the whole video, it is the October 2007 episode.

 

How is the JDM Evo faster than the USDM one? I'd wanna hear this.

 

I think the Z's needed better drivers. They weren't even pushing the cars. lol. There was a discussion somewhere about this video. That both the Z's did not have good drivers compared to the other cars. They weren't redlining, or pushing the cars hard. That NISMO should have been right with the EVO without a problem.

 

i'll take a gt3, please

 

I thought the JDM Evo IX GT has 315 hp? Correct me if I'm wrong, I read that in multiple articles before, but I'm not sure how, possibly ECU differences and U.S. smog requirements, but I'm not exactly sure. I'm confused how they named it a Evo IX MR RS, but doesn't it have the same engine as the IX GT?

It was the Mine's 350Z that crashed, not the NISMO Z. They strip their cars of ABS to save weight, but it screws the driver most of the time.

Never drove a GT3 before but the driver seemed to be shifting relatively slow to how I usually see those guys drive. Of course it should have won, as a matter of fact it has the most power and probably handles even better than the NSX.

 

All Evos 7 and up have the same engine, however the IX has Mivec. In Japan the Evo IX is rated at 280hp. There is not much difference if any between the power between the JDM and USDM models. If anything smog laws are tighter in Japan.

Even with better drivers, the Zs would have still been last.

 

Regardless of who won(shoulda been the gt3) that is still an incredible piece of driving.

 

i think the GT3 was sandbaggin till the last 2 laps.

 

Doubtful when the NISMO handles as good as a Lotus Exige in tests.

 

Still...Would have been behind the Evo, NSX and GT3.

Check the Nur times..

 

yep!

 

I think with 1 or 2 more laps, the finishing order would be same as the lap times -> GT3, NSX-R, Evo9, Z. Nonetheless I am impressed with the Evo's best lap time.

On a side note, Tsukuba is an awesome track... would love to take my S there in the future

 

I did, but where is a NISMO Z on the Nur times?

 

8:42 - 142.069 km/h - Lotus Exige, 179 PS/796 kg, (sport auto 11/00)
8:11 - 151,274 km/h - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)

Ok i couldnt find it either
But you said it handled as well as an Exige

 

in a slalom test. The Z is way more powerful than the exige and its more setup for a road course anyways. So I would expect the NISMO to be somewhere between the EVO and the Exige somewhere.

Wish they would hurry up and test the darn thing.

 

When the Evo was first introduced in the States, there's no expensive ACD (replaced by cheap viscous coupling, which is a passive system), there's no AYC system (replaced by normal LSD system), and there's no 6MT. Then if you look up the specs, the US Evo only had 271hp and 273lb/ft of torque (vs 280ps, 289lb/ft in JDM model),
but in the end, the US Evo was still 70kg heavier than the JDM GSR model due to the installation of anti-intrusion bar at the front of the car meeting safety requirements.

Later though, ACD became standard and hp and torque became 286hp and 289lb/ft, but still no AYC.

In other words, earlier USDM Evo was much slower than the respective JDM model, but later it improved, but still lagged a bit behind the JDM model.

 

In July 2007 of Best Motoring, The Nismo Z was as fast as the new Civic Type R on Tsukuba, which is still pretty good for the Z, considering the Type R is capable of beating even NSX-S-Zero, Lancer Evo 6, RX7 RS, R34 GTR on Suzuka.

 

Exactly. Reason why I said the Z had a bad driver.

 

those are 2 different episodes with 2 different drivers.

Newest episode, November 2007, they tested a lot of cars in Sugo this time, Civic Type R, Modulo Civic Type R (Civic Type R with bodykit), and Nismo fairlady Z, they all got 1:44.5 to 1:44.7. For comparison, they also tested LP640 (1:37.8), Gallardo Spyder (1:40), XKR (1:46), Lotus Exige (1:43).

Just a reminder that all of these drivers are professional drivers.

 

Yea, I see. The Nismo is pretty fast and with a better driver probably could have stayed right with the Evo. I'm hoping they take it on Nurburgring sometime soon!

 

Is it only me to notice that in Best Motoring, Japanese cars tend to win a lot more than any other cars... not sure if it is coincident.

 

If you look at Nurburgring laptime

Here

GT3 did it in 7:39
NSX-R didi it in 7:56
Evo IX did it in 8:11

I think Best Motoring is bias towards Jap cars.

 

Possible, NSX-R is fast!

 

Nurburgring lap times are with only 1 car on the track. In Best Motoring they race 6 cars on the track at the same time and the more powerful, better performing cars are placed at the bottom of the grid. Plus they usually run on Tsukuba which is a pretty technical course... only 1 straightaway, hence the closer lap times.

 

I have a feeling that Nissan deliberately made the 350z a slower car so that it won't threaten the GTR. Remember, when 350z was first introduced, the R34 GTR was still in production, it wouldn't make sense if the cheaper 350z is faster than the R34 GTR. In Japan, the top (as in fastest cars) are still the Evo, STi, GTR, NSX, RX7, while the "2nd division" cars are cars like the 350z, S2k, the FWD Type Rs, RX8, etc.