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Old 12-14-2007 | 06:29 PM
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estimate damage on friends car

My friend got into an accident last night, could you estimate the damages.

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Old 12-14-2007 | 06:33 PM
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6-7000. car model is pretty new, most likely will have to get all new oem parts not just junkyard psrts like some places do.
if the bags are deployed add 2-4000
Old 12-14-2007 | 06:41 PM
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thats my car up there i was hoping that it would be under 2k cause all they need to do is bend the sheetmetal back and bondo the edges and get a new bumper cover ... those are only about 250$
Old 12-14-2007 | 06:47 PM
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they may replace the rear 1/4 since the metal is bent up. parts may be 1500-2000 if they replace the 1/4. paint will be about $4-600 and the rest is labor.

just my best guess. and it is pretty good
Old 12-14-2007 | 06:55 PM
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yea the quarter panel on this car is very expensive from iv read im hoping they can bondo and rework the metal though if they rework the metal and bondo it how much do u think it will be the bumper cover is 250$ and the rear light assembly is like 90 and the trunk needs to bent back a little too
Old 12-14-2007 | 06:56 PM
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yea new 1/4 and bumper with paint willl easily be a 2-3 thousand job..
Old 12-14-2007 | 06:58 PM
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maybe some minor frame damage, i'm willing to bet some other panels may also be crinkled, which happened to me, i got in the same area as you a few years back in my acura just on the opposite side. frame was twisted slightly, whole exhaust was screwed up, roof had a slight buckle in it and the panel after the door was bent, trunk was a mess. it was about 7K to finish and the whole car basically sprayed except for the bumper and hood.

i'd bet it'll be about 7000 that like stated earlier. there is always more damage then meets the eye, start dismantling it and throw it on a frame machine, only way to tell.

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Old 12-14-2007 | 07:00 PM
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5k on the low side, 10k on the high side.
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:19 PM
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i dont think its going to be 5k do u really think they cant just rebend the metal on the 1/4 panel
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:23 PM
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i dont think its going to be 5k do u really think they cant just rebend the metal on the 1/4 panel
Absolutely no chance. Its wrinkled and folded up beyond repair. New 1/4 panel, new inner fender liner, new taillight assembly, probably a new hatch (a repainted used one would be a good option), new bumper cover, and all the associated clips and fasteners.

$3500 or so. Maybe more.
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zxiion86
i dont think its going to be 5k do u really think they cant just rebend the metal on the 1/4 panel
Unfortunately, I don't think they can bend out that much. It look's like damage goes right down to the unibody, not just the sheetmetal... A new trunk, bumper cover, tail light, and gas filler components will probably bring you up around 2k alone.
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:24 PM
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only damange on the frame is it being bent into the tire slightly should be easy to pop out
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by zxiion86
i dont think its going to be 5k do u really think they cant just rebend the metal on the 1/4 panel
NO, you came for our opinion, now start listening too it! That can't be beat out and finished with bondo, So stop asking if it can. Bumper cover might be $250 but paint is another 250 + install also need one of those stupid foam things that goes behind it, all new clips, etc etc....body work snowballs, 7gs is just about bang on. Call your insurance and be done with it.
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by zxiion86
i dont think its going to be 5k do u really think they cant just rebend the metal on the 1/4 panel
bending the metal back will weaken the metal and will warp easier. you wanted an answer and we gave one. you do not fix that at all by bending it back
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:29 PM
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alright thanks...
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:29 PM
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it may be the entire left rear clip too, once the parts are off the shop can tell better.

i have only had 14 cars and the wife has had 5 and have been working on cars since 15, so i think i may know a little something about cars
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:33 PM
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Can we ask what happened? From the pictures, it looks like you we're rear ended (or the car spun and hit something)... If you we're rear ended I wouldn't be worrying about the cost...
Old 12-14-2007 | 07:36 PM
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no i lost control and spun across the hgihway
Old 12-14-2007 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by zxiion86
i dont think its going to be 5k do u really think they cant just rebend the metal on the 1/4 panel
"Z", u really dont want them to "rebend" any metal on ur car... and bondo is an evil thing when its more than paper thin... IMHO...
Old 12-14-2007 | 08:43 PM
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it may be the entire left rear clip too, once the parts are off the shop can tell better.

i have only had 14 cars and the wife has had 5 and have been working on cars since 15, so i think i may know a little something about cars
....looks like experience is the best teacher...

....anytime I have had anything to do with body work, esp rear 1/4's, its always alot more costly than people without experience think... body work is crazy hard work!!
Old 12-14-2007 | 09:07 PM
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was the owner riding dirty (no insurance) or on liability?? because the insured driver in me wouldn't care how much the repair costs, after i coughed up my deductible.
Old 12-14-2007 | 09:09 PM
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was the owner riding dirty (no insurance) or on liability?? because the insured driver in me wouldn't care how much the repair costs, after i coughed up my deductible.
fo shizzle...
Old 12-14-2007 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zxiion86
thats my car up there i was hoping that it would be under 2k cause all they need to do is bend the sheetmetal back and bondo the edges and get a new bumper cover ... those are only about 250$
ROFL, bondo?

To do it right you're going to have to replace all that sheetmetal.

Bondo.
Old 12-14-2007 | 10:16 PM
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Bondo....lol
Old 12-14-2007 | 11:08 PM
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Bondo....lol
Dude, I'm DYING over here ..!
Old 12-15-2007 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by zxiion86
thats my car up there i was hoping that it would be under 2k cause all they need to do is bend the sheetmetal back and bondo the edges and get a new bumper cover ... those are only about 250$

"It'll buff right out"

You my friend, are an idiot.
Old 12-16-2007 | 12:06 AM
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4-5k.
Old 12-16-2007 | 03:30 AM
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As others have already stated, that 1/4 panel and trunk lid is too bent up for a shop to just bend it back into shape. From the looks of it, they're gonna have to replace the 1/4 and trunk lid for sure.

They're gonna have to cut out the old 1/4 and welding in the new 1/4, and then paint..... which is $2-$3K easy.

You're also gonna need a new bumper, bumper absorber, taillight and assembly, clips, inner fender liner, fuel door cover, etc... That'll be another $1K or so.

Once they start disassembling it, they'll probably find more damage; There usually is.

This job will easily hit $6K, and more if you want it done right.
Old 12-16-2007 | 07:41 AM
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What year is that ?? It might help if we get some details...

I'm guessing it's a 2005 Scion tC... which is worth about 12K...

So if the work end up being 10K or more it's totaled... (80% of 12K is 9.6K).

I don't think it's totaled, but it's definitely not a smooth the edges and slap some bondo on it kind of deal... There's a significant amount of metal that is going to be cut and replaced...

I love it when people think "ah... that'll buff right out"

Remember when aaron had his car hit by a drunk ??

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169458

Looked like just a couple of dents, but this is what the car looked like when they fixed it:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172608

If the body work is done right, they are going to have to cut and replace the whole corner of your car. If you've got insurance, just pay the deductible, and don't worry about what it costs
Old 12-16-2007 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
If you've got insurance, just pay the deductible, and don't worry about what it costs
Exactly. I would hope you weren't driving around without any (insurance that is...)
Old 12-16-2007 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
What year is that ?? It might help if we get some details...

I'm guessing it's a 2005 Scion tC... which is worth about 12K...

So if the work end up being 10K or more it's totaled... (80% of 12K is 9.6K).

I don't think it's totaled, but it's definitely not a smooth the edges and slap some bondo on it kind of deal... There's a significant amount of metal that is going to be cut and replaced...

I love it when people think "ah... that'll buff right out"

Remember when aaron had his car hit by a drunk ??

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169458

Looked like just a couple of dents, but this is what the car looked like when they fixed it:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172608

If the body work is done right, they are going to have to cut and replace the whole corner of your car. If you've got insurance, just pay the deductible, and don't worry about what it costs
A damn shame he never finished that all metal testarossa widebody kit
Old 12-16-2007 | 04:50 PM
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had a friend in an RSX-S that spun on black ice and had the exact same damage...actually didnt look as bad as yours... but when the hatch doesnt line up anymore its frame damage. His was totalled. FYI
Old 12-16-2007 | 08:24 PM
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the frame is damaged on the baottom and top bent in and crumped about 6 inches atleast its what i think is the frame....... || if those 2 lines represent the 2 bars on the bottom of the car frame the ones interesting those at the back on the corner are bent in about 6 inces and the frame metala bove it looks bent in a good 6 inches as well.... so im starting to think its totaled plus all the suspension work that needs to be done to it...
Old 12-17-2007 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by zxiion86
the frame is damaged on the baottom and top bent in and crumped about 6 inches atleast its what i think is the frame....... || if those 2 lines represent the 2 bars on the bottom of the car frame the ones interesting those at the back on the corner are bent in about 6 inces and the frame metala bove it looks bent in a good 6 inches as well.... so im starting to think its totaled plus all the suspension work that needs to be done to it...
If i drove a Scion I'd want it to be totalled too.
Old 12-17-2007 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by zxiion86
the frame is damaged on the baottom and top bent in and crumped about 6 inches atleast its what i think is the frame....... || if those 2 lines represent the 2 bars on the bottom of the car frame the ones interesting those at the back on the corner are bent in about 6 inces and the frame metala bove it looks bent in a good 6 inches as well.... so im starting to think its totaled plus all the suspension work that needs to be done to it...
typically frame damage and blown airbags will total a car.
Old 12-17-2007 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dallison
typically frame damage and blown airbags will total a car.
Question?... why do the insurance companies jerk you around so much when it comes to totaling a car?
Old 12-17-2007 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dallison
typically frame damage and blown airbags will total a car.
They do have tools to realign the frame. 2 problems with that though. 1 It is very expensive. 2 the amount to fix the frame along with the other body damage should total this car. The car is what $16k new? Being a paint and body guy, I can say that with that amount of damage I would expect ATLEAST $7k worth damage. You have to take in account of not only the materials, the labor has to be accounted for too. (most if not all of you know this). With that being said there is no such thing as minor frame damage imo. If you hit something hard enough to tweek your frame, your car is fuxord. Also to the OP how the heel did you lose control of your car on the highway? My guess is you were pushing the car past the limits (ie racing or high speeds) and lost control. Bite the bullet and get your insurance involved. No professional body guy uses "bondo". We do use high grade body filler at times but def. not bondo lol.
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