Drove a 335. Mixed feelings but not ready to trade in the TL.... continued
#81
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Originally Posted by srika
ok - f the 335 then :P
it sucks, lol
it sucks, lol
#82
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I jump fences as I please, lol
serious tho - did not want it to be in red - I guess you have to pay to play, I was just hoping for better on the warranty side. This is only about the Dinan upgrade.
serious tho - did not want it to be in red - I guess you have to pay to play, I was just hoping for better on the warranty side. This is only about the Dinan upgrade.
#83
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
Your not keeping your factory warrenty. You get a Dinan warrenty. Big difference. BMW will tell you to go screw yourself if you blow up your engine with Dinans software and expect them to fix it.
#84
The Dinan numbers are to the crank. Well, I think they are anwyay....someone prove me wrong. In that car we're talking ~310hp/360tq, which is nice but not as stupid fast as the numbers indicate.
#85
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Originally Posted by nbennettksu
we had an E46 M3 with the complete S2 package with the S/C who blew his engine... we warrantied it we also did do the install on it, maybe that had something to do with it?
#86
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Originally Posted by picus
The Dinan numbers are to the crank. Well, I think they are anwyay....someone prove me wrong. In that car we're talking ~310hp/360tq, which is nice but not as stupid fast as the numbers indicate.
#88
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No one answered my question. When you buy the ecu upgrade, do you get a part or would I have to take my car to an authorized Dinan shop for a new ecu flash?
#90
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Originally Posted by evilone
No one answered my question. When you buy the ecu upgrade, do you get a part or would I have to take my car to an authorized Dinan shop for a new ecu flash?
I havent read too much on it but i think you can send your ECU to dinan and they will flash it. Then send it back to you. If you dont have a dinan dealer near by that is.
#91
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I havent read too much on it but i think you can send your ECU to dinan and they will flash it. Then send it back to you. If you dont have a dinan dealer near by that is.
#92
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ohh shit the BMW dealer im getting my car from is an autherized Dinan dealer
Germain BMW
Address : 11286 Tamiami Trail, Naples
Zip Code : 34110
Performance Representative : Bill Emerson
Phone : (239) 643-2220
Website :
Germain BMW
Address : 11286 Tamiami Trail, Naples
Zip Code : 34110
Performance Representative : Bill Emerson
Phone : (239) 643-2220
Website :
#94
Originally Posted by srika
384hp to the crank is great given the stocker is rated at 300. And, torque is usually measured at the engine - so given that's what they measured here, there is no conversion for the 421 ft-lbs. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's how it is.
I still think it's a cool option, but there are downsides that's all. For example, Dinan just matches the warranty, there is speculation that some dealers won't honor it. We'll see.
#95
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Originally Posted by picus
I think it's measured at the engine or rear wheels. I also think that Dinan's 421lb/ft will be more like 360lb/ft to the rear wheels, but I might be totally wrong.
I still think it's a cool option, but there are downsides that's all. For example, Dinan just matches the warranty, there is speculation that some dealers won't honor it. We'll see.
I still think it's a cool option, but there are downsides that's all. For example, Dinan just matches the warranty, there is speculation that some dealers won't honor it. We'll see.
#97
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well I just called my salesman and he said he is pretty sure and Dinan upgrade done by them WILL NOT void the bmw warrenty. But, to make sure he si going to have their in house Dinan rep call me to verify the warrenty information etc.. I should get a call back in about 45 min, So I will let you all know
#98
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Originally Posted by evilone
well I just called my salesman and he said he is pretty sure and Dinan upgrade done by them WILL NOT void the bmw warrenty. But, to make sure he si going to have their in house Dinan rep call me to verify the warrenty information etc.. I should get a call back in about 45 min, So I will let you all know
oh and,
lol
it's nice to see Dinan is welcomed at BMW. I mean after all, they are the equivalent of AMG to Mercedes and have been in the game for about the same time. (M is in-house).
#99
Interesting; I just talked to the SA at Budds BMW (authorized Dinan etc..) and he said it's a warranty *match*, meaning if you have an issue you go through Dinan to receive the warranty work. I guess everyone is guessing right now.
#100
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Well, I have seen this kind of thing vary by dealer. So I guess YMMV. Some dealers are more forgiving than others. This is going by my Supra TT experience. I had to have my turbos replaced and it was a known fact - since the dealer works closely with Sound Perf - that my car had been modded (exhaust, dp, boost). Still I was able to get the work done under Toyota warranty ($6k claim). btw it was later found out the turbos were actually not blown, it was an issue with the hoses. I just took it in when I heard a whistling and had no boost, and it was determined the turbos were blown. /tmi
#101
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Originally Posted by srika
Well, I have seen this kind of thing vary by dealer. So I guess YMMV. Some dealers are more forgiving than others. This is going by my Supra TT experience. I had to have my turbos replaced and it was a known fact - since the dealer works closely with Sound Perf - that my car had been modded (exhaust, dp, boost). Still I was able to get the work done under Toyota warranty ($6k claim). btw it was later found out the turbos were actually not blown, it was an issue with the hoses. I just took it in when I heard a whistling and had no boost, and it was determined the turbos were blown. /tmi
#102
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
MK IV??
yea, MKIV.
#103
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Originally Posted by srika
no - the MKIII TT
yea, MKIV.
yea, MKIV.
I thought they were a single lol. Nice car! Those things always made me nervous, especially from a roll. No way to tell they're not stock unless you see a big front mount. I've always wanted one but way out of my price range.
#104
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
I thought they were a single lol. Nice car! Those things always made me nervous, especially from a roll. No way to tell they're not stock unless you see a big front mount. I've always wanted one but way out of my price range.
ps. sold it in '04.
#105
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Originally Posted by srika
and GN's always made us nervous. another reason why I have a lot of respect for em.
ps. sold it in '04.
ps. sold it in '04.
#106
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
So were you on supraforums back in the Mr. Akimoto days?
yes, Akimoto was great stuff.
#107
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Wow, I used to post over there a long time ago. My first taste of a Supra was at a car meet in Vegas. I rode with my friend in his M3 because once again the GN was down. We happened to be on an on ramp right in front of a Supra with big frontmount, BPU+ at least. When we merged on, the Supra went to go around us so my friend floored it. I looked at him like he was crazy and the Supra left us like we were standing still with the rear end skating around at 60+mph. I see more MK IIIs than the IVs. In fact, haven't seen a MK IV in a couple years.
#108
Originally Posted by srika
and GN's always made us nervous. another reason why I have a lot of respect for em.
ps. sold it in '04.
ps. sold it in '04.
Terry
#109
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Originally Posted by nbennettksu
we had an E46 M3 with the complete S2 package with the S/C who blew his engine... we warrantied it we also did do the install on it, maybe that had something to do with it?
Originally Posted by picus
Interesting; I just talked to the SA at Budds BMW (authorized Dinan etc..) and he said it's a warranty *match*, meaning if you have an issue you go through Dinan to receive the warranty work. I guess everyone is guessing right now.
#112
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Originally Posted by zeroday
so the tl pulls more g's on the skidpad than the 335i? interesting.
TL 6MT = LSD
335 = no LSD.
#113
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Originally Posted by teranfon
A few years ago I used to see TT Supras from time to time. A couple of times I had one pull up to me at a stoplight while driving one of the GN's. We'd look at each other, nod and smile, and both leave quietly once the light turned green. Each time I had the feeling of mutual respect between both parties and it was best not to mess with each other. Very cool.
Terry
Terry
#114
Originally Posted by srika
easy explanation
TL 6MT = LSD
335 = no LSD.
TL 6MT = LSD
335 = no LSD.
the simple answer is that the stock 335i runflats suck. the porsche cayman gets .95-1.0 G in the skidpad test and it's has no LSD...
#115
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Originally Posted by zeroday
the simple answer is that the stock 335i runflats suck.
#116
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Braking and cornering are abnormally good with the TL. I've taken mine, an AT (smaller brakes and swaybars) around a small course against a friend's IS350 with sport package which completely destroys me in a straight line and beat him pretty good when cornering and braking were thrown in. Braking for a corner I could wait an extra two seconds before hitting mine. My cornering speed was faster, I could've rear ended him a couple times if I wanted.
His car was bone stock with traction control off. Mine was stock with the exception of traction off, 100lbs of subs in the trunk, and 255 G-forces all the way around on stock rims.
Trying to drive this FWD car at it's limit was the opposite of everything I've learned and not fun. I almost plowed through the first corner when it understeered and I gave it more gas to balance it out. Forgot I was driving a FWD for a second. We also didn't go long enough for his big brakes to shine as mine never faded.
His car was bone stock with traction control off. Mine was stock with the exception of traction off, 100lbs of subs in the trunk, and 255 G-forces all the way around on stock rims.
Trying to drive this FWD car at it's limit was the opposite of everything I've learned and not fun. I almost plowed through the first corner when it understeered and I gave it more gas to balance it out. Forgot I was driving a FWD for a second. We also didn't go long enough for his big brakes to shine as mine never faded.
#117
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Originally Posted by zeroday
the simple answer is that the stock 335i runflats suck. the porsche cayman gets .95-1.0 G in the skidpad test and it's has no LSD...
#119
Originally Posted by I hate cars
Braking and cornering are abnormally good with the TL. I've taken mine, an AT (smaller brakes and swaybars) around a small course against a friend's IS350 with sport package which completely destroys me in a straight line and beat him pretty good when cornering and braking were thrown in. Braking for a corner I could wait an extra two seconds before hitting mine. My cornering speed was faster, I could've rear ended him a couple times if I wanted.
His car was bone stock with traction control off. Mine was stock with the exception of traction off, 100lbs of subs in the trunk, and 255 G-forces all the way around on stock rims.
Trying to drive this FWD car at it's limit was the opposite of everything I've learned and not fun. I almost plowed through the first corner when it understeered and I gave it more gas to balance it out. Forgot I was driving a FWD for a second. We also didn't go long enough for his big brakes to shine as mine never faded.
His car was bone stock with traction control off. Mine was stock with the exception of traction off, 100lbs of subs in the trunk, and 255 G-forces all the way around on stock rims.
Trying to drive this FWD car at it's limit was the opposite of everything I've learned and not fun. I almost plowed through the first corner when it understeered and I gave it more gas to balance it out. Forgot I was driving a FWD for a second. We also didn't go long enough for his big brakes to shine as mine never faded.
#120
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Originally Posted by zeroday
LOL I never asked why.